HD Fury Expansion Pack

[blackwiggle]

Absolutely YES.+1:+

God I miss that at the starting of a race.

Is it a licensing problem?

Or a decision made long ago and since never contemplated resurrecting.

WE MISS YOU CURLY!:(

[IDReaper]

Bring back Curly!

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/images/avatars/wipeout_3/curly.png

3...2...1...Go!

I could just imagine that in HD, like it could be on a set of giant holographic displays just at the start, add just a tad bit of picture glitchy-ness for good measure.

[Colin Berry]

THING THAT I'VE EXPECT BUT DID NOT ENDS IN DLC:



staten park: i've to admit that i'm pretty surprised about that, i think it would be a must, since was stated by Colin as his favourite




Another case of false memories !

I never said that

I like Staten park but its not my favourite, not by a long way


>>>
Edit
Tracks were selected for a variety of reasons
The Designers compiled a list of tracks we were happy with to be HD-ified
The Artists took the list and looked at the ones they wanted to HDify (based on the designers list)
We then discussed things, throw in a few other factors and came out with the ones we have
Also bare in mind the HD physics make the tracks feel slightly different in HD than on the psp, Talons at Phantom can be a real test, and modesto can hurt

[Darkdrium777]

See here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJo63xhF4NM) for Curly in HD :D

[blackwiggle]

But out of all the 40 odd tracks to choose from TALON ?

By your comments I doubt it will be the TALON's we all yawn about.;)

Oh GOD,Piraphiac & Leungbok are going to see this think they have died and gone to heaven.

Youtube better get larger servers.:D

[Colin Berry]

I think we started with a list of 7 or 8 and narrowed it down. We wanted a balance of tracks in terms of play style, visual style, difficulty, track features, which worked well in various modes, and ensure we picks ones we liked :D etc etc

[rdmx]

Dare I ask, will citta nuova ever be on the cards? :paperbag

[AG-wolf]

you know, in time, you could just release all the tracks ;) lol Of course I suppose it's a matter of market penetration and consumer interest to warrant Sony giving you guys the money and resources for each update.

[JJohnEames]

I'd love too see that. What bout new weapons? Will there be any?

[H3avyM3tal]

^I assume things are going in the right direction if this game got an expansion pack!:nod

[AG-wolf]

Why do we need new weapons? The only weapons change we should have is making the mines/missiles/rockets LESS unfathomably hindering so they don't draw you to a 5 second stand-still.

[H3avyM3tal]

You know the strange thing about that hindering effect? Sometimes, if I keep the accel button pressed when I get hit hard, I come to a full stop, but if I release it and then press it again, that full stop effect is gone. It only happenes sometimes though.

Would like to get an answer about this, if possible :)

[KIGO1987]

But out of all the 40 odd tracks to choose from TALON ?

By your comments I doubt it will be the TALON's we all yawn about.;)

Oh GOD,Piraphiac & Leungbok are going to see this think they have died and gone to heaven.

**** there, you wait til Tech Da Ra, that track is a bumpy bitch through the middle part. BR frenzy hot spot.


I think we started with a list of 7 or 8 and narrowed it down. We wanted a balance of tracks in terms of play style, visual style, difficulty, track features, which worked well in various modes, and ensure we picks ones we liked :D etc etc

I had a strong feeling that The Amphusiem was going to be on the DLC, such a nicely combined track. And that Camber on that corner that took 2 days to create also.

Tech Da Ra was a surprise, but still is a good one.

[blackwiggle]

I think we started with a list of 7 or 8 and narrowed it down. We wanted a balance of tracks in terms of play style, visual style, difficulty, track features, which worked well in various modes, and ensure we picks ones we liked :D etc etc

It seems that way when you look at what is slated.
Twisty V straights. and what is already available in HD.

A NO BRAINER when you really look into it.

A good compromise/ Balance IMHO.

Cheers.

[KIGO1987]

The Amphusiem, Tech Da Ra, Talons Junction, Metropia and Moa Therma are going to be the hot ones for Eliminator mode events. Vertica is prime for this mode. But most Pulse tracks work extremely well in Eliminator Mode.

[rdmx]

*tsk tsk outpost 7*
It'd be good if you could get points for knocking people off the track such as in tech de ra and sol 2. Such detection exists in unreal tournament, could this happen in wipeout hd?

[blackwiggle]

Could GM take up production of TRIAKIS craft for FURY Eliminator mode and come out of bankruptcy?

[KIGO1987]

ha. If it was Arc Prime then i knock people off the edge on Leungbok bend.

Guess that'll be happening in the desert now on Tech Da Ra;)

[IH8YOU]

Actually, considering Canada is acquiring a 12% stake in GM - I think Auricom will become a reality. :eek

[LOUDandPROUD]

Why do we need new weapons?

We don't, but some of us certainly WANT new weapons. I'm always up for some more variety which leads to new strategies! :+

[PjotrStroganov]

The feel of tracks has been quite different in HD compared to their PSP counterparts. I expect this to be the same for the expansion tracks. Therefore I'll reserve my opinion of the tracks for later.


I hated Outpost 7 though. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

[NeilSmith]

More screens up at; http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/47809/Wipeout-HD-Fury-Screenshots

[BARTgai]

Man there are like almost none of FEISAR besides the video. I really want to see the new beast up close.

[yeldar2097]

that release date had better be a default thing, I don't want to wait till then...

[IDReaper]

Haha yeah I know that would definitely be summer amirite?:lol Lets hope SL didn't suddenly change their mind:eek

[RedScar]

Edit: Nevermind

[H3avyM3tal]

Can someone please explain how Eliminator mode works, and what are it's options?

The new Piranha is sick :nod:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8388/52611wipeouthdfury06nor.jpg

[KIGO1987]

Kill as many people as possible with the weapons you acquire on the weapon pads.

----

Just put in the Pure UMD to see what Modesto Heights was like again, ****ing hate that track bad, i hate that chicane bit through the tunnel, damn it!

One of these others could of done one better;

Sinucit
Koltiwa
Khara Descent
Staten Park

LOL @ Paris hair, love that track, looks like some sorta French sex pallor, with all those orgasmic sounds, and positions;)

[darkfaerytales]

Another case of false memories !

I never said that

I like Staten park but its not my favourite, not by a long way



oh, sorry colin:frown: i was conviced of that, i remenber you clearly have stated staten & 123 klan as your favourites and that you'd like to re-work on them...btw maybe i've misundertand, one thing i say that you like a thing , another is say that it is you favourite thing...

anyway :+ you have put 3 of my favourites tracks on, and many cool features this is far more than enough! THANK U:+

[AmigoJack]

:D Thx Colin and Paul :D
This really looks superb! I'm more and more fascinated by the HD-era of W'O''.
And I'm so glad that I was totally wrong about the (possible) network issues playing online - as we already found out: playing with 8 stations at one internet access is no problem at all - no lag!!!!
The pictures look so damn brilliant - and so does the video. Amazing craft designs, a very interesting 180°-turn, e-li-mi-na-tor is back, additional zones...
Makes me so happy in advance that I'll play it very often this weekend :D :D :D

THIS MUST BE CELEBRATED!!!

Now where's my Loops Of Fury CD from the Chem Bros? Great coincidence!!! :+

[Sch@dows]

I think the 180° thing in the trrailer is a new after effect of the leeching weapon. It don't disconnect anymore if the opponent get too far away. It seems that now, it will put pull the opponent by reversing it's course (work both ways when you are getting too far away with the "leech beam" still attached).


Talon Junction is not one of the best track but is still a peasant one and easy one. I would have prefere fort gale ou de konstruct, but well ... more tracks sont I can't complain n_n

I wasn't very interested in zone (didn't get those trophies) either in the psp volumes or in HD, but now there are opponents it will be a totally different story. It seems that in zone battle, the zone ships differs from one team to another ?

release date please !!!!

[Colin Berry]

oh, sorry colin:frown: i was conviced of that, i remenber you clearly have stated staten & 123 klan as your favourites and that you'd like to re-work on them...btw maybe i've misundertand, one thing i say that you like a thing , another is say that it is you favourite thing...

anyway :+ you have put 3 of my favourites tracks on, and many cool features this is far more than enough! THANK U:+


123Klan is a fav of mine for sure, as is Modesto and Tec De Ra... I wonder how they ended up being part of the DLC.. :D

Regardless the Fury pack really does have an absolute shedload of content, hopefully it wont be too long before all can enjoy it

[IDReaper]

Regardless the Fury pack really does have an absolute shedload of content, hopefully it wont be too long before all can enjoy it

This is very good to hear, please allow me to go off the wall a little more:hyper

[d4onps]

Holy flying flames of fury there are a lot of new players online! This is great! I hope some of them are good and stick around.

[darkfaerytales]

This is very good to hear, please allow me to go off the wall a little more:hyper

maybe there will be some secret not stated in the details, maybe some reward after achieve the new campaign or the new trophies...

[djKyoto]

release date please !!!!

I reckon a good indicator will be when the Fury Trophies show up on the Trophy comparision. They usually pop up shortly before a DLC release.

[KIGO1987]

123Klan is a fav of mine for sure, as is Modesto and Tec De Ra... I wonder how they ended up being part of the DLC.. :D

Regardless the Fury pack really does have an absolute shedload of content, hopefully it wont be too long before all can enjoy it

Was on 123Klan last night. That track reminds me of LBP for some reason. Nice.

As for Modesto Height, well there isnt an avatar here in the selection screen to illustrate how i feel about that track.....

Tech Da Ra is nice. Looking forward to play that track in Eliminator mode. That track is going to cause alot of people to break controllers i think with that massive open corner on the track, love it;)

[H3avyM3tal]

I somehoe suspect the new trophies will make some of us spin in the air in pain. Can't wait!

[darkfaerytales]

now would be a very very stupid thing if we'd have to wait like 2 months for get this fury pack

[H3avyM3tal]

That would suck, true.

I think the wait is worth it though :)

I love the new HUD, and the so called 'map' at the bottom of it, and I think we are in for a few more surprises.

[zeeZ]

http://e3.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/696205/wipEout-HD-Fury-Preview-From-E3-2009.html

So that's how it works

And you get the most points by hurting people. Which might seem easy if you’re in the back of the pack, since most of the weapons in wipEout HD shoot forward, leaving those in first place to only use the mines. Except that in “Eliminator,” you can hit the L1 button, which will flip your ship around so you can blast anyone who had been behind you. Of course, this means you’re also going to wrong way, but if that’s what you have to do to hurt people, then so be it.

[darkfaerytales]

what the hell :evil

it's not known yet the date of release! any detali about!!

god, what's so wrong! ****

i start to become nervous

[IH8YOU]

Let's just hope that "Summer" indicates Summer of 2009.

And let's also hope that Summer of 2009 isn't anything like late December of 2007, no wait, Spring of 2008, or, no, um September of 2008. :eek

*prays*

[Sch@dows]

The communication was indeed very bad about wipEout HD release since the game was even schedule to a date, and nothing came out that date not any explanations.

I hope, it won't be the case this time.

PS : I hope we won't see that :
http://www.casttv.com/video/yuahtb1/wipeout-pure-citta-nuova-zero-contender-mode-video

[Chill]

YES!!!!! Excitement humoungus!!!! so can't wait to get back in the state, umm, then to England shortly after... ;) wooohooo!!! so much to wait for!! grrr!!!!!!

[sny]

Holy squirreltails! :eek

I've seen big expansions/content updates before, but this one just blows everything else out of the water. Heck, some greedier publishers might even hold back stuff of this magnitude to make a sequel... Amazing job, SL!

I might need to give LittleBigPlanet a rest once again when this comes out. :D

[AmigoJack]

http://e3.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/696205/wipEout-HD-Fury-Preview-From-E3-2009.html
So that's how it worksWell well - that sounds good indeed :D
Hope this also means we can finally launch quakes backwards (again).

I guess turning around is for tactical reasons. Just using your backview and then firing a weapon (which will go backwards like in... uhm... 2097?) would not be very fair to the others I guess...

Thx for the info :+
zeeZ beats are made for breakin :D

[Maschinengeist]

WOOT!!!!!!!!!! Thank you VERY MUCH! This is the best news I've heard since HD was released! :D

[Darkdrium777]

Holy squirreltails! :eekThe only other dev that's done such thing is Epic Games with the Titan pack for UT3, and it was for free too. Have not seen anything else like the Titan pack before.

[Spece2goin]

The only other dev that's done such thing is Epic Games with the Titan pack for UT3, and it was for free too. Have not seen anything else like the Titan pack before.

Your Gamespy Id!!! now!!! (mine is PoRRasturvaT, see unreal.fr man!)

and yes, the titan pack is an awesome pack of 16 maps, few modes and mut, absolutely free!
but with that game it's a bit special, as anyone got the Editor, there are many many free content made by the community, and with ther Mapping Contest, they reward best mappers, and that add much things to the game.

not possible with Wipeout, it's too hard to custom the game! (appart from skins...), and tracks are such a huge amount of Data, polys etc... leave this to the pros!

[graeble]

when reading about "flipping" your ship i couldnt help but imagine a turn that is so sharp and narrow that it would be neccesary to flip your ship into reverse to pull it off. kinda like parallel parking only at breakneck speeds.

[TearsToShreds]

Just saw the news after a long hiatus... Awesome!! This'll surely get me interested again. :) Hope to race you all soon, will need some practice. ^^

[GreenPhazon]

when reading about "flipping" your ship i couldnt help but imagine a turn that is so sharp and narrow that it would be neccesary to flip your ship into reverse to pull it off. kinda like parallel parking only at breakneck speeds.

:eek OUTPOST7

[Spece2goin]

when reading about "flipping" your ship i couldnt help but imagine a turn that is so sharp and narrow that it would be neccesary to flip your ship into reverse to pull it off. kinda like parallel parking only at breakneck speeds.

keep in mind you are completly stopped, and your ship seems to have some inertia.
that won't be fast.

[Cerium]

Wow... lose internet for a week and come back to the news of an expansion.

Awesome.

[username]

When I heard about an expansion, i was expecting 'good' - a couple of new ships, and a couple of new tracks. maybe 1 more game mode if lady luck was on my side!

but wow!! this is 'beyond excellent!'
"buta, whuca! I.. whoouu!" > im stuttering for words! this looks amazing! I cant wait for this to be released, the instant it is, I will be downloading it at midnight!!
I remember getting the butterfly feeling in my stomach before my 10th birthday because I was getting Wip3out - Ive got that feeling now, which i dont feel often!
To Paul and all others developing wipeout HD.. I congratulate you on expanding your already amazing work - and actually getting me excited about a playstation game - something not too often now a days for me :)

Well done
(sorry to ramble, but i cant get my head around how good this looks!) :+

[graeble]

keep in mind you are completly stopped, and your ship seems to have some inertia.
that won't be fast.

oh i didnt read that. i assumed that when you flipped your ship it started accelerating in that direction.

you know what happens when you assume?

[darkfaerytales]

now would be a very very stupid thing if we'd have to wait like 2 months for get this fury pack

i quote myself

this is much more stupid than stupidity

[Axel]

This is fantastic news, as I thought how things will turn out. One big expansion instead of multiple little DLC packs. It makes sense really, thought I was banking on 8 new tracks instead of 4 :P. Good going SL, now all I need is the price and I'm sold :)

[guillaume]

zeeZ beats are made for breakin :D
Nice :g

[b4p]

awesome. I guess it's time to dust of wipeout and get those last few trophies. this has probably been answered, but what's that song in the video?

[Darkdrium777]

Machinegun - Noisia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOm1V0Qpvk)

[DawnFireDragoon]

was it playable at e3, there doesn't seem to be any gameplay video's or preview vids out there. just the teaser.

just wandering, because it would be cool to see the tracks been played!

[stinkleroy]

Check darkfaerytales post in this thread for gameplay video :)

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6257&page=9

[b4p]

Machinegun - Noisia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOm1V0Qpvk)

woh, thanks

[DawnFireDragoon]

Check darkfaerytales post in this thread for gameplay video :)

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6257&page=9

thanks, seeing video tells you everything. much better than reading hands-on or lists of features. e.t.c.

[darkfaerytales]

fanstastic, at first all the excitement and the BOOM! , now everything has fall under silence again...

[Avenger2197]

Don't worry, Darkfaerytales. SL is probably just very busy trying to get this pack out the door. We're all excited about it, but it takes time. Be patient, and when the pack is released this board will be ablaze with people losing their minds at how awesome/not so awesome the pack may be.:)

It IS awesome, from my perspective though.

[Spece2goin]

fanstastic, at first all the excitement and the BOOM! , now everything has fall under silence again...

They made an annoucment, i think you should be glad that Paul and Collin already answered many of our questions.

Now just wait. They have better things to do than read us and post at everything we ask them. Especially if those answers can be found in Fury itself when it will come out.

[darkfaerytales]

yes that i'm happy, i'm not still blaming colin nor paul for not asking our question, indeed it's even better this way so things aren't spoiled and everyone will can enjoy the pack good when it will come out...

i just still saying that it's stupid if now after 9 months, we have a wondeful dlc ready finally, we have to wait another month or more 'cause at sony they can't accord for a price and a date...

[Colin Berry]

yes that i'm happy, i'm not still blaming colin nor paul for not asking our question, indeed it's even better this way so things aren't spoiled and everyone will can enjoy the pack good when it will come out...

i just still saying that it's stupid if now after 9 months, we have a wondeful dlc ready finally, we have to wait another month or more 'cause at sony they can't accord for a price and a date...

Its not ready
The final touches are still being made to it
Just because it is at E3 doesnt mean its finished

When the time is right a price and release date will be announced

Patience

:D

[Darkdrium777]

Well I hope it's soon :)

[darkfaerytales]

i was suspect this

thank you colin :+

indeed by the shots it looks like something was unfinished, apparently

p.s. remenber to add one good AG-generator under each ship! i've heard someone complaining about that

and if you have enough time left a couple more tracks too:nod HAHAA , just kidding:beer

:rock

[IH8YOU]

If I pay Moar - can I get it earlier? ;)

I'll double whatever that is if you give us a copy that works like 1.2 did. :beer

[Spece2goin]

when it's done, as they often say in that industry.

[AmigoJack]

when it's done, as they often say in that industry.That would be a charm.
Reality is: it must be done until x. Which results in buggy crap and not a quality release. I encounter so much software and gadgets that are like green bananas :?

No need to rush Colin. We're all excited like kids the night before christmas :) Because we know something great is coming :hyper

[Spece2goin]

That would be a charm.
Reality is: it must be done until x. Which results in buggy crap and not a quality release. I encounter so much software and gadgets that are like green bananas :?

No need to rush Colin. We're all excited like kids the night before christmas :) Because we know something great is coming :hyper

well, Starcraft II seems ready, but no news since last blizz con.

better wait till september and have bugs (like Kigo's vista pads) fixed.

[ProblemSolver]

Yet another boring E3 footage of WipEout HD Fury;
http://www.viddler.com/explore/PSUniverse/videos/369/

Why wasn't there anyone at E3 who took a full-coverage of WipEout HD Fury?
I don't get it. :rolleyes: Where are all the freaks gone? :|

Further, look at this! :bomb

// E3 Impressions: Wipeout HD Fury, Eric Layman
{
Wipeout HD Fury was quite the unexpected find. Word of mouth
was nonexistent, it didn’t show at Sony’s press conference,
and it could only be found at one lonely kiosk on the show
floor. Furthermore, I had to go through four Sony reps before
I could locate someone who could tell me anything about the
game. But I got some details, eventually. ...
} [Ref (http://www.digitalchumps.com/e3-2009-coverage/130-e3-2009-overview/3176-impressions-wipeout-hd-fury.html)]

Something is really wrong with all the PR stuff considering WipEout. :brickwall

// From the same reference we get the following information
{
... On the fact sheet side of things, Fury, rather than a standalone game,
is a mission pack for Wipeout HD. When downloaded, the initial title
screen splits into two, and you’re free to select Fury as an almost
entirely separate game.
}

Okeeey....

[Darkdrium777]

"There's something wrong with PR for WipEout"
ORLY?
We've been saying that from the release of WipEout HD on the PSN. It's nothing new, but sadly Sony still hasn't got the message. I really do not understand how they can expect to sell more than 100 DLC copies (This forum) with ZERO communication.
It's E3 for God's sake, pass the good news around?
Instead we get two previews from two obscure websites, I hope Sony doesn't intend on reaching the target audience with this.
Get your act together boys and girls, Liverpool, SCEE, SCEA, whatever. You've got one of the best games on the system but you don't talk about it at all.
It's a real mind****.

[ProblemSolver]

ORLY?
I have only repeated what is known since ages! :nod


... Get your act together boys and girls, Liverpool, SCEE, SCEA, whatever. You've got one of the best games on the system but you don't talk about it at all. ...
Yeah really strange. I can't believe that SL favors the way it is market at
the moment. There must be a serious issue between SCEE and SL in some
way. Nine month of work and they got 'only one lonely kiosk on the show
floor'? C'mon. Wassup?

Some things are rather strange if we put them in perspective;
- WipEout HD has a superior quality
- WipEout HD cost almost nothing
- WipEout HD / Fury has virtually no PR

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2643/anigfhsfhg.jpg

They should at least dump out some gorgeous 1080p pictures as well
as some videos of every mode and send these over to gamersyde.com.

[darkfaerytales]

-WipEout HD has been one of the first few games to demostrate the 3D technology
-WipEout HD will support 3D technology
-WipEout HD has been one of the few games around run at full HD 1080p 60 fps
-WipEout HD has been the first full game to be released through direct download

Wipeout HD has treated by sony as its loyal guinea pig ( with excellent results )

[Spece2goin]

-WipEout HD has made me sell 2 PS3 instead of 360 last summer for my holliday job.
that was the last argument i told, with a video running on the screens.

[ProblemSolver]

You bought two PS3s because you saw a video running WipEout HD, right? Nice!

[Spece2goin]

You bought two PS3s because you saw a video running WipEout HD, right? Nice!

No, i Sold!

worked for a month in a games shop.
i changed the mind of 2 customers just with WOHD.

[FatScarf]

I hope they're sparing a Home advertisement board for Fury, I'll have a reason to go back into Home and set my character off dancing again.

[lovedr]

wow indeed, gr8 news fellas, thanks very much for your continued efforts, can't wait for it!

[ProblemSolver]

@Spece2goin:
Ah, I got you wrong here. Wasn't quite clear to me -- you worked for a
games shop. k k

@FatScarf:
Did the same. xD I also met some other Wipeout fans up there.

[Hemicrania]

I couldnt agree more with you guys. WipeOut is such a brilliant franchise, it should get more attention from Sony. I think it would help to release it on Blue-ray, allot of my friends dont have a creditcard (or wont get one just for the psn network)

Hell, I would rebuy it just to have it on blueray.

I hope they release Fury soon though... ive been waiting for an upgrade way to long... :rock

[XBARNSTERX]

That video of that guy playing the new track is so funny, how on earth did he hit them mines:clap

[mdhay]

Because He's crap.;)

[AmigoJack]

I think it would help to release it on Blue-ray, allot of my friends dont have a creditcard (or wont get one just for the psn network)I don't really like it too this "only download"-issue - hell, I even organized my first credit card just for this game!! Not being able to make a backup of what I bought really bugs me :(

But the game is too good to be missed - I guess nobody regrets all the "work" being done to get it. And in the end it's also meant to be played online - so whattheheck... just get it and become FURYous :D

[KIGO1987]

Grade A dickhead player. No wonder why this game gets **** all promotion you get fat ****s like this being dumb.

This video is so stupid. For those who dont know this track, the bitchy part of the track is just before when this video started.

Dumb **** in the making (http://www.viddler.com/explore/PSUniverse/videos/369/)

[Darkdrium777]

Kigo Kigo Kigo Kigo
It happens to all games (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50474)

Enjoy?

[Spece2goin]

NOOO, not my fav GT-R!!!! can't he just follow the arrows on the floor that indicates for noobs when to brake!
he will need PA in NFS...

omg are there only noobs at E3 coverage?
they're good at writing article on somthing they cant even do correctly!
how can they judge a game playing like that?

i understand better the success of Wii and DS...

is it the end of good, hard to master, and awesome games?
hope not!
we will still have Wipeout in years!

[eLhabib]

wtf?
Seriously, why did they even bother posting this video? Takes all the joy out of the game and makes it look like absolute CRAP. Considering this game most likely plays rather casual compared to GT, Forza and the likes (this is EA, after all), I don't see how someone can be so terrible at it. That guy playing obviously hasn't even played anything remotely resembling a driving game, let alone driven a real car (I hope) :P

[Spece2goin]

wtf?
Seriously, why did they even bother posting this video? Takes all the joy out of the game and makes it look like absolute CRAP. Considering this game most likely plays rather casual compared to GT, Forza and the likes (this is EA, after all), I don't see how someone can be so terrible at it. That guy playing obviously hasn't even played anything remotely resembling a driving game, let alone driven a real car (I hope) :P

read tenth of comment, and understood that they're plenty of fags/noobs posting E3 videos at gametrailer.
i think they don't even try to know within their team going to E3 who can make a demo of what game.

they were just good to show Bowling on Wii when it was out.


PLZ SL, ASK ZICO TO COOK US A NICE LAP ON FURY AND SEND THE VID!

[mic-dk]

LOL Darkdrium. That's one drunk driver!

[KIGO1987]

Kigo Kigo Kigo Kigo
It happens to all games (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-need-for/50474)

Enjoy?

Cant watch it the bitch is buffering and nothing is happening.....:(

[Sch@dows]

For having played a few games at Micromania Game Show in France in 2007, I must admit it's not such an easy task.
Putting aside the fact that you have to play standing up with a lot of people watching you, talking, and stuff like that, the real issue is the several other games next to me which didn't let me listen to the sound of my game. Braking while hearing a accelerating sound, etc.

Well, in those videos, the players sucked but, they aren't helped at all ^_~

PS : having played at a private event organized by Sony with a limited number of people, before the launch of the PS3, sitting in comfortable sofa, or even laying down with the display above me was pure happiness.

[Spece2goin]

PS : having played at a private event organized by Sony with a limited number of people, before the launch of the PS3, sitting in comfortable sofa, or even laying down with the display above me was pure happiness.

Saint Lazarre? PS room on second floor of GAME store?

lucker!

[Sch@dows]

It was a PS room event, but it wasn't at Saint Lazare. It was at place des Vosges near Bastille.

At that time, the PS3 catalog wasn't so good, but I remember an epic Virtua Tennis double battle against Sony's Staff.
Drinks and buffet ... it should be like that at every expo n_n

[PjotrStroganov]

wtf?
Seriously, why did they even bother posting this video? Takes all the joy out of the game and makes it look like absolute CRAP. Considering this game most likely plays rather casual compared to GT, Forza and the likes (this is EA, after all), I don't see how someone can be so terrible at it. That guy playing obviously hasn't even played anything remotely resembling a driving game, let alone driven a real car (I hope) :P

While we are off topic, I'll just as well say that this game is made by the core team that made GTR2 and Race Pro. Casual?8)

It probably also have all sim options turned off, including mechanical damage.

[leungbok]

Yet another boring E3 footage of WipEout HD Fury;
http://www.viddler.com/explore/PSUniverse/videos/369/

Why wasn't there anyone at E3 who took a full-coverage of WipEout HD Fury?
I don't get it. :rolleyes: Where are all the freaks gone? :|

Further, look at this! :bomb

// E3 Impressions: Wipeout HD Fury, Eric Layman
{
Wipeout HD Fury was quite the unexpected find. Word of mouth
was nonexistent, it didn’t show at Sony’s press conference,
and it could only be found at one lonely kiosk on the show
floor. Furthermore, I had to go through four Sony reps before
I could locate someone who could tell me anything about the
game. But I got some details, eventually. ...
} [Ref (http://www.digitalchumps.com/e3-2009-coverage/130-e3-2009-overview/3176-impressions-wipeout-hd-fury.html)]

Something is really wrong with all the PR stuff considering WipEout. :brickwall

// From the same reference we get the following information
{
... On the fact sheet side of things, Fury, rather than a standalone game,
is a mission pack for Wipeout HD. When downloaded, the initial title
screen splits into two, and you’re free to select Fury as an almost
entirely separate game.
}

Okeeey....

Don't you noticed guys that the video was called "wohd fury gameplay 2"
here's the "gameplay 1" (classical zone mode on a new track) ;)
http://www.viddler.com/explore/PSUniverse/videos/376/

[darkfaerytales]

this is one of the wo pure only zone track, right?

[Sch@dows]

I noticed that when I also posted that, but I couldn't find the "gameplay 1" on that site. It seems I didn't search enough.

I don't recognize the track, but it seems like problem solver will explode his record on that one (seems like a pretty easy zone track).

[darkfaerytales]

unfortunately zone modes aren't exatly my favourites...i prefer " real " things

[Darkdrium777]

Don't you noticed guys that the video was called "wohd fury gameplay 2"Yeah, I browsed the videos but couldn't find it myself, so thanks.

The track is Pro Tozo.

And it's not the easiest of the Zone tracks included in this.
Coridon 12 and Syncopia are much easier ;)
Syncopia is the easiest I think, you only have to watch out on the staircase jump as the road gets smaller and smaller, and landing while turning at higher speeds from the staircase jump could be problematic.

Edit: Here's a small video (http://www.mediafire.com/?bdyotyigzyu) I made of all the zone tracks.

[crawdad62]

I've been away since the E3 announcement so I'm a bit late to the party. Can't add much other than I can't WAIT! Awesome! I've never played any of those tracks so it'll all be new to me.

[ProblemSolver]

Don't you noticed guys that the video was called "wohd fury gameplay 2"
here's the "gameplay 1" (classical zone mode on a new track) ;)
http://www.viddler.com/explore/PSUniverse/videos/376/
Couldn't find that video, initially. Thx. :) Ok, the ZONE craft still looks
the same ...hm. The track is awesome, the curvature is rather smooth =
lotz of zones confirmed.


... I don't recognize the track, but it seems like problem solver will explode his record on that one (seems like a pretty easy zone track).
xD

If you mean with 'pretty easy' that one can get into higher zones
rather easily (compared to other tracks), then you are right. But in
general I would say that those tracks which are supposed to be easy,
like for example ANULPHA PASS, are in reality very hard!

Why? Well, your ZONE score is the sum of #zones, #perfect zones,
#perfect laps, #successful BRs, etc.. Now consider that your are
running 120 zones on ANULPHA PASS. 120 zones equals 20 minutes
of full concentration! It's not like with SPEED LAP were you get another
try "20" seconds after you messed-up your current one. Running
into higher zones requires you to be able to hold up over a long period of
time. And as everybody knows, near the end of each run it becomes rather
stressing in keeping everything together. AP looks easy in doing ZONE,
but it isn't. Quite the contray is the case. The effort I've put into AP to
get to zone 125 was 100x larger than, for example, to get to zone 63 on
CHENGHOU PROJECT. CP is more difficult in its track layout, right, but it
is mentally a lot easier than AP, because on CP (with respect to AP)
you're almost carrying no load around. Just get the steering right and
there you go. ;)


... Here's a small video (http://www.mediafire.com/?bdyotyigzyu) I made of all the zone tracks.
thx :)

[Sch@dows]

Indeed, I mean by that I can finally get to zone 75 with thoses tracks n_n
But "easy" tracks also mean harder to get a world record (which i don't aim) ^_~

[AmigoJack]

New video: http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video/x9hpgp_c_videogames :D

You see the split menu screen, as described before, where you can choose between HD and FURY. The menu has pulse-like hexagons again. There are also some of the crafts shown. Tracks driven: Talon's Junction Forward and The Amphisium Zone. Language is french.Oops, sorry :P

[rdmx]

That was one of the first video's posted, albeit with a different link :P

[Spece2goin]

here's the "gameplay 1" (classical zone mode on a new track) ;)
http://www.viddler.com/explore/PSUniverse/videos/376/

lol, hitting wall on zone 2 on a so wide/smooth curves track!

definetly, skilled players @ E3 were missing...

and for a zone track, it would be better to see it at higher speeds!

[ProblemSolver]

I really don't get why there isn't any thoroughly coverage of WipEout HD
Fury from E3. It's beyond me! At my native community consolewars.de
(biggest german console community) there is currently no real anticipation
of Fury. wtf?

@SL: We need Videos of all the new crafts / modes / tracks and how
everything blends perfectly together. Please pump out some 720p or
even 1080p video at 60Hz. gamersyde.com will host whatever you have!
Look how WipEout HD was supported on gamersyde.com a year ago;
http://www.gamersyde.com/game_1323_en.html

[Avenger2197]

Agreed with PS. Videos of the "official" variety are definitely needed. From start to finish too, not just snippets of one then the other.:)

[AmigoJack]

Uhm... don't get me wrong, but Fury is only an expansion pack. Those weren't advertized for Pulse either (albeit Fury is quite bigger). So even if there would be lots of press campaigns and material - new people cannot get their hands on Fury without buying HD first.

Would make much more sense if it was a completely separated game (like W3SE was). If it comes out, there will be also material on the official sites I guess :)

[Darkdrium777]

Just like they updated Wipeout-Game and Wipeout-Pulse for the packs that are available in the US, right?

... wait.

They probably won't update the website ;) I wouldn't count on it anyways.

[ProblemSolver]

Uhm... don't get me wrong, but Fury is only an expansion pack. Those weren't advertized for Pulse either (albeit Fury is quite bigger). So even if there would be lots of press campaigns and material - new people cannot get their hands on Fury without buying HD first.
You might be proven wrong here. Just take this note over here (http://wipeoutzone.com/forum/showpost.php?p=128703&postcount=77).



Would make much more sense if it was a completely separated game ...
Let me quote myself;


...
// From the same reference we get the following information
{
... When downloaded, the initial title screen splits into two, and
you’re free to select Fury as an almost entirely separate game. ...
}


which leads me to an interesting consideration. Some of you have asked
how the leaderboard of HD will match up with Fury. Let's consider an
example. Guess they have removed the ability of doing s-b-s playing with
Fury, then almost all SL Top10 records would be unbeatable once and for
all. Right? But what if we have two separated leaderboards, one for HD
and one for Fury? I get the feeling that upon selecting Fury from the
initial title screen all your new records will register on another global
leaderboard, a Fury global leaderboard! If you look at it, this is a method
to get rid of some issues with HD. Point is, you can't reset the leaderboard
of HD anymore, because too many ppl have spent a lot of effort into it. If
true, then HD is going to freeze the way it is once and for all (some minor
bug fixes now and then). Hence, if you wanna beat an old HD record, or if
you simply wanna play under the old rules, then you start up WipEout HD
from the initial start screen instead of Fury.

Pure speculations! What do you think?

[Avenger2197]

That would make the most sense to me at least. It would solve the "possible" extra stats problem in regards to the ship's performance.;)

I'm not so keen on possibly having to choose between two seperate entities in one game though. I think the transition should be smooth and flawless. What I mean is, the game should load up as normal with either the look of the "old" HD, or the new Fury menu, depending on what you chose in the options screen. The Fury campaign would only be an extension of the old one, with events after the Meltdown grid in Campaign mode. The ships could be used in ANY Racebox event you chose, with the limitation being in Campaign for Fury.(i.e. Old ships can be used for every event, and Fury ships only in Fury) But, even then, one could argue that letting people use Fury ships in the regular campaign would make sense, in that they would keep playing.

Dunno, just my $0.02

[ElectroBolt]

After watching the "gameplay 2" vid', I'd assume that players will have the choice between the HD and the Fury campaign, and that the new game modes will be available through the existing racebox menu.

With regards to the tweaked stats, I'm still unsure whether they were actually tweaked or improved (my impression si that they were improved, lookin at the vid), which makes quite a difference. In case they were improved, this might be the option SL chose instead of offering a new, faster speed class... I'm only assuming!

[lunar]

Problem Solver, that speculation of yours in post 369 about how seperate leaderboards could work with Fury and new ships makes a lot of sense. It could be a way to get rid of glitches, bugs and have the benefits of a scoreboard reset, but without killing everyone`s old times and hard work. I would like to see that happen, and floated the idea somewhere, but I don`t think it will happen. I would love to be wrong though.

[ProblemSolver]

@lunar: Additionally, a clean leaderboard would emphasis the competition for
quite awhile, esp. for those new to WipEout. However, I wouldn't prefere to
see Fury separated from HD. SL should clean up the leaderboards from all the
glitched records and tightly integrate the new crafts into the game. Imagine
there will be another DLC one year later. We would face the same problem.

[IDReaper]

As far as I can tell I think they have it set up where if you choose Fury, it is basically the entire WOHD game(With the exception of campaign) with Fury content thrown over top. Hopefully they will both clean up the leaderboards and intergrate the new crafts as well. Perhaps a special denotation for time set while using Fury, like say for example:

Sol 2, Phantom
IDReaper Goteki45 "Fury" 1:49.89

Would something like this work?

[lunar]

Maybe there`s an issue of whether the glitched records can actually be cleaned up in HD or whether it would be too hard work to do it case by case. There are a lot now. So a kind of leaderboard reset in Fury and seperate Fury leaderboards would be the best way possibly. Also it might not all happen again in the future if the bugs that caused the HD glitches were identified and squashed in Fury. We`ve surely dug out any glitches in HD by now. Anyway I`m speculating madly here :beer

[Avenger2197]

Like I said before, it would make the most sense to me(seperate bouards that is) as it would start from a clean slate. As far as fixing current records, I wish they would. I can't imagine it being terribly hard at all, i mean look at what they've accomplished within 9 months. Although, and I'm no expert, wouldn't the possibility of having to shut down the online servers temporarily be very difficult to pull off. I mean, the possibility of SL actually having the servers in Liverpool, right next to them, might not be a reality. London HQ for SCEE might not be down with turning them off for a few hours, and the process may be too time intensive to be realized.:?

maybe someone at SL could enlighten us as to the status of record table fixes? Even if the answer is no.

[ProblemSolver]

@IDReaper: Yeah it's possible. The new ships can share a common
ID tag, such that we can have the old records (minus the glitches)
and the new records within one table.

@lunar: true dat is

My problem is that it would be too easy for SL to start anew. I don't
want to see that they drop HD (with respect to Fury) with all its glitches,
leaderboards issues, or whatsoever and move on to the next iteration
without doing anything for all those who have spent a lot of time into HD.

@Avenger2197: Yeah right! I never get why they can't removed all the
*obvious* glitched records from all the leaderboards. Most of them are
obvious and also well known. What's the problem? :|

[Avenger2197]

Woah. hey! I'm not disagreeing with you Problemsolver, not AT ALL. If I had the option for "clean" boards, or "dirty" ones, I'd choose clean all the way.:nod

Maybe SL could hire a "Time-Cop" like our very own Tomahawk. (would be kind of funny if it was Zico, don't you think?) I'd love to see the boards as they were before 1.30, so people who deserved the top slots had them. No question about that.

I'll reiterate my previous statement: I can't imagine a Leaderboard clean-up to be all that hard to do. It would basically be bug fixing in a sense anyway. Everyone would be happier that way. Sl would be happy for all those playing, everybody who plays could rest easy knowing that glitched times couldn't enter the rankings, and the game lives on the way it was supposed to.:)

[NeilSmith]

Doing a clean swipe of the leaderboard is NOT the way to go. Some people have put alot of work down to get thoose records and I don't think it would be fair for them to have to start all over again.
I can see the frustration with the scores that shouldn't be on the boards, but there has to be some kind of way to remove the glitched scores or the scores that was earned in a dishonest way (by using glitches in the game) instead of wiping the whole database? I mean c'mon, does SL Studio have to reset the scoreboard every time a glitched\bugged record shows up?
The first thing they need to do is make sure no one are able to use glitches in the game. Only after then can they start doing something about the scores.

Any official response to this issue would be greatly appretiated as this is causing a great deal of frustration for alot of us.

[Darkdrium777]

It's kind of sad that every single race but two at Phantom speed have glitched times in at least half of the first page, and in some cases up to three pages. :|

[sh1kamaru-]

I'm all very new to this but I'm a former trackmania united player and there were glitched times too, and they were able to clean the boards. With trackmania it was easy to see them as you had a ghost. So does WOHD so I think it won't be too much of a hard work to clean the board by looking at the ghosts if they're submitted along with the times.

Implement a validation system with that shouldn't be complicated then WDYT?

[CR4SH3D]

i have one question for what is looking like an awesome pack:
are manor-top (please PLEASE!) and stanza inter (less bothered about) included in the new tracks?

[Darkdrium777]

No.

Race:
Modesto Heights
Talon's Junction
The Amphiseum
Tech de Ra

Zone:
Pro Tozo
Mallavol
Coridon 12
Syncopia

[KIGO1987]

still way too many pure tracks over pulse tracks atm.

[AG-wolf]

well that's because Pure tracks > Pulse tracks

[Sausehuhn]

Exactly!
They should use a few of Pure's Omega layouts (Cardbox City and the 4th one were the best, layout wise) and put some real buildings around them :)

[KIGO1987]

If im going to race on anymore Pure tracks, then at least give me the Pure Triakis ship to use.

[mdhay]

Exactly!
They should use a few of Pure's Omega layouts (Cardbox City and the 4th one were the best, layout wise) and put some real buildings around them :)

The fourth one was 123klan's track, which was ****ing immense. Curly was in there, too!:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper

[KIGO1987]

123klan is a really good track in Pure. One of the few Pure tracks with good flow in it.

[CR4SH3D]

if this is the only(?) planned pack why arnt there more of the classic old tracks? theyre alot more exciting and have much better layouts

and why not get the designers (123klan etc) that did the pure download tracks to do another for HD?

im sad :(

[Sch@dows]

the designer who has designed (or maybe just created the style) of burgertown was busy working on a LittleBigPlanet pack ^_~

[Sausehuhn]

I would rather go for "real world" sourroundings and keep the layout only.
The Omega Pack was ok at its time as there were already a lot of real world tracks. But compared to Pure, WOHD has very little environments. Because of that, more realistic sourroundings would probably fit better into the game as it now is and will be with Fury.
My two cents ;)

[Reezy]

Do we know a date for when the release date will be announced? :)

[Hemicrania]

this summer....thats about it. Some sites claim its before the end of the summer...I hope not, cous its killing me to wait this long

[AnErare]

If im going to race on anymore Pure tracks, then at least give me the Pure Triakis ship to use.

You aren't even joking. That will not be allowed. It's going to stay safely inside the little PSP box ;P

[darkfaerytales]

what if SL as a return for our long waiting don't include a little bonus to us fans? hey please, include VanUber & Tigron please studio liverpool just a single model for each of both teams is enough, please so the roster will be complete! please take note of this SL :frown:

edit: i bet you have some nice models left over ready to use in case...

[RedScar]

Paul is EVIL! teasing us with that video, the screens, and the blog posts.

[ProblemSolver]

That's the reason why I think Fury is near its completion.
Two weeks, guys! :) (just my guess)

[KIGO1987]

You aren't even joking. That will not be allowed. It's going to stay safely inside the little PSP box ;P

The only advantage with the Pure Triakis ship is that it doesnt stop for five years after hitting a mine in HD gameplay:brickwall Then trying to jump start your ship on the mag strip on moa. In Pure you hit something, pause for a brief moment then you are up and running again.

[AnErare]

Exactly :/ But you want to be more equal than others :P

[KIGO1987]

Triakis accelerates at the same pace as a '85 Diesel Toyota Hilux.

I think that is as much disadvantage as anything. Let alone being as at an overall advantage to other ships.

[blackwiggle]

But it has a Bull Bar.
The others don't

[Hemicrania]

That's the reason why I think Fury is near its completion.
Two weeks, guys! :) (just my guess)

I hope your right, cous im itching to get my hands on this one. Sofar the best DLC content ever on psn.

[aerobie]

Today's the first day of summer, so Fury can be released any time now (on a Thursday, I suppose)! :)

[blackwiggle]

I'm sure Colin said that we would get around 4-5 days notice of it's release.

I think when school holidays start in the USA is when it will be released, they are in another 2 weeks I think ,probably July 2nd.

[Avenger2197]

Summer vacation for schools here starts in 3 days at max.;) One could hope, but I'm not holding my breath just yet:) I'm thinking the release may be about 2-3 weeks away, if I had to guess. God, I hope I'm wrong!

[RedScar]

Summer vacation just starts for the little ones in HS and public school, so PLEASE RELEASE it SL, feed the addiction

[DawnFireDragoon]

Footage from E3 that has already been linked to here on the Zone, but edited together with a soundtrack...

check out if you need a fix of Fury footage! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=difdQ1CA5xY

[Darkdrium777]

Thought I was watching my Amphiseum vid there for a sec... :lol
Cool video. :)

EDIT: I get it now (Youtube comment)

[DawnFireDragoon]

lol, i had no idea what you meant till i just watched your video!!!

you gotta love Cold Storage!!! :)

good quality video too.

[ProblemSolver]

@emerald dragoon: I get nervous! :hyper Good video. :+

[Sch@dows]

The 1st zone footage is this video let me saw the famous "zone wall" that you can drop instead of going to the next zone level.

Great video !! Great compilation !!

[Darkdrium777]

No, you drop this barrier by going to the next level.

[Sch@dows]

Oh ! I tought you have to choose. But yes, You must choose between next level or energy restauration.

[Darkdrium777]

Exactly. If you go to the next level, you drop the barrier, if you restore energy, you don't. :)

[darkfaerytales]

other than that mix of the already seen videos there aren't much more around ?

[HISHO[JP]]

Footage from E3 that has already been linked to here on the Zone, but edited together with a soundtrack...

check out if you need a fix of Fury footage! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=difdQ1CA5xY

Original video here.
http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video/x9hpgp_coverage-e3-09-in-game-wipeout-hd-f_videogames
(This player plays whith elite difficulty!)
The server is temporarily down when I posted this...

[blackwiggle]

I gave a link to both those videos and to the Cold Storage website 1.5 days ago at another forum.
Got to give them credit,they are quick and did a good job.:+:D

[DawnFireDragoon]

other than that mix of the already seen videos there aren't much more around ?

i can't find anymore...it would be really cool if studio liverpool put out a gameplay trailer, with some footage of the tracks in!!! :) *hint hint

also, this video originally had the full 'Noisia - Machine gun' track from the Fury tailer playing to it, and it was awesome...but Warner Music Group took the video down from youtube, because there ***holes.

so i made one with Cold Storage instead, as the music kicks ass for wipeout games and Tim made his music freely available, because some people are nice like that...

[blackwiggle]

Nice one Emerald .
+1:+

[darkfaerytales]

...it would be really cool if studio liverpool put out ...

...this ****ing awesome DLC now! :lol

[sny]

One thing I'm wondering about after seeing that vid with the french dude that drives like a drunk grandpa with a severe case of nacrolepsia...

Has anyone figured out how the unlockables on the ship select screen are supposed to work? All we see is that the two hexagons in the middle are the old and new models of the AG Systems craft. I can't come up with any sensible way of how the rest of the hexagons of the grid are unlocked and what they would hold...

Any ideas?

[Spece2goin]

already talked about.

we think there are just new loyalty points to get, then, it's a normal selection screen, left and right for the team, up and down for the livery, no more L1 R1...
upper are Fury ships
under are HD ships + campain skin.

[sny]

Oops, I guess I didn't read back far enough in the thread (or missed the discussion)... sorry about that. :)

Anyway, thanks for the info, that layout actually makes sense! 8)

[Nunalho]

Yo guys, can anyone please mention all the tracks included on the Fury update?

Thanks in advance :hyper

[Darkdrium777]

Race:
Modesto Heights [WipEout PurE]
Talons Junction [WipEout Pulse]
The Amphiseum [WipEout Pulse]
Tech de Ra [WipEout Pulse]

Zone/Zone Battle:
Pro Tozo [WipEout PurE]
Mallavol [WipEout PurE]
Coridon 12 [WipEout PurE]
Syncopia [WipEout PurE]

[Spece2goin]

can't wait to play on those awesome tracks with transparent ground.
we already see on vids, but i think we don't realize how much that will be good to race on them!

i think i'll drive internal view a little more.

[Nunalho]

Race:
Modesto Heights [WipEout PurE]
Talons Junction [WipEout Pulse]
The Amphiseum [WipEout Pulse]
Tech de Ra [WipEout Pulse]

Zone/Zone Battle:
Pro Tozo [WipEout PurE]
Mallavol [WipEout PurE]
Coridon 12 [WipEout PurE]
Syncopia [WipEout PurE]

Thanks man!

I dont remember those from Pure though :|

Edit, Now i do ;)

[ProblemSolver]

... I agree with Problem Solver that the arrival of multiplayer Zone has been talked about for a long time and is fascinating. And it sounds a very deep and tactical experience which at crazy speeds will destroy brain cells faster than anything we`ve known before I suspect. :pirate ...
xD Yeah right.

But I got a bad feeling for Zone Battle coz lag may mess up this mode if SL
hasn't implemented a good prediction where a craft (an oppenent) goes next
until the next packages comes in. Imagine playing Zone Battle at SUPERSONIC
speed. Network latency may spoil this mode. And what about the so-called
Zone barriers? They can't even be predicted. I'm curious about how Zone
Battle will work out at high speeds.

[Cyberio]

The one thing i know is if i play in a online race where are you in, i know the one who i won't win EVER.
In any case, it will be hard that mode in online, reaching super phantom with people hitting you all time is a real challenge.

By the way: Anything about the release date? July? August? I expect the first days of July.

[ProblemSolver]

@Cyberio: xD

Considering the current HD online issues as well as the shuttering and tearing
(framerate drops) in ZONE mode, which is *already* really distracting, makes
me quite skeptical about Zone Battle. Anyways, I'm looking forward!

[Spece2goin]

@ProblemSolver :

what i fear is the zone to reach to win. imagine that this mode is played to zone 30?
and in fact, the only one video we got about it shows that winning this game is really fast (less that 2 minutes)
i hope it's because it was just a campain cell...

[kaori]

I didn't all read the topic, but have you seen ships have better statistics? Look this AG-Systems, with 80 points of speed and 95 points of thrust!
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=134&u=12067068
http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/12/06/70/68/th/diffar10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=134&u=12067068)

[Spece2goin]

yep, and much of us don't really like the fact that there are boosted ships.
maybe because we don't know how SL will allow them on multiplayer...

[ProblemSolver]

@Spece2goin: Zone 30 equals SUPER PHANTOM. Anyways. lol

Hopefully we can choose an arbitrary high zone such that on an impossible
zone Zone Battle turns into last-man-standing. Would be awesome! Well, I
wanna have a Zone Battle on Anulpha Pass, up to zone 100, with the top 8
players in the world. Epic!

[Frances_Penfold]

Thanks for all the vids/info included in this thread-- have been really busy lately and this is a nice way to get up to speed about Fury.

June/July is an unusual time to release a new game or expansion because game sales tend to pretty anemic in the late spring and summer months, at least in North America. I'm kinda guessing this will be an August release though I really hope that I am wrong!

[Sch@dows]

Will the zone battle be playable on every zone tracks ? maybe it has been optimized for the 4 new zone tracks ?

[ProblemSolver]

I think you can play it on all tracks. Would be pretty useless otherwise. Having special
tracks will definitely help to gain a smoother experience (for a lot of people) of Zone
Battle, at first instance.

[OBH]

I didnt realise new ship skins have increased stats.

Surely the last thing an addon needs is to make the original content redundant.

[Rapier Racer]

Do you not see it as a natural progression? Would the teams not be constantly looking to improve their craft? I like this idea make it feel like teams are working away behind the scenes.

[Seraphim1982]

Yes that would make sense if we were watching this on TV like a sport such as F1 racing but it's a game and needs to maintain balance for the players.

I'm all for the new ship designs but the improved stats should come with a cost say for example if a ship has improved speed/thrust it should lose a similar amount out of handling/shield.

The way it's going at the moment the old ships will fall into disuse.

[Avenger2197]

^^I agree with the above post.:)

I think it was Colin or Paul(maybe:?) who said the ship stats were somewhat negligible, meaning they had been balanced with the old ships. It wouldn't really make much sense that they would release DLC that would gimp the original ships as they are.

[crawdad62]

Yeah I don't see how they could "enhance" the stats of the new ships in an expansion pack. Unless the ships couldn't be used in HD which I don't see happening. However I would think they'd have something tweaked from the HD ships. I'm curious to whether they're closely aligned with their HD counterparts or a complete rewrite?

[Darkdrium777]

Perhaps the bonus stats play a role in only Eliminator, in this case it doesn't matter at all how balanced the ships are.

[Rapier Racer]

Perhaps those skins are not available for online use?

[Sch@dows]

Perhaps the bonus stats play a role in only Eliminator, in this case it doesn't matter at all how balanced the ships are.
We clearly saw during the french footage (single race and zone battle) that the ships have enhanced stats (differences in red).


Perhaps those skins are not available for online use?Even if it was the case, the offline time trials would be uploaded to the score board.

[Darkdrium777]

Yes I know but what I mean is those red bonuses don't activate for the normal races/times where the times are recorded, only in modes like eliminator and zone battle, where I don't think anything is recorded to a leaderboard. Don't know if my idea is clear enough... :?

[crawdad62]

I don't think I've seen the video. So what you're saying is there's say an Icarus that shows the original stat lines and then the enhancement to those stats being represented in a red bar? I could see that being the case... only in Eliminator or Zone Battle. Otherwise it reverts to the original Icarus stats.

[Sch@dows]

http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video/x9hpgp_coverage-e3-09-in-game-wipeout-hd-f_videogames

look from 00:35 to 00:42.
We can clearly see 2 stats lines from the AG-SYS. As the player switch between normal and "concept" ship, the red part of the stats disappears.
It is a single race event.

PS : as previously said, you can switch between teams with Left-Right, and switch bewteen skins with Up-Down. So, it seems there are 3 color patterns for the concept ships.


The following zone battle event is only played with "concept" ships (transparent parts), and the stats are all full.

[crawdad62]

Thanks Sch@dows. Interesting. I still don't see how they'd let you compete in the original HD tracks with ships that exceed the original ships performance parameters with other pilots that don't have the expansion pack. Of course that would make a pretty good case for people to purchase said expansion pack;)

[Rapier Racer]

Has the question of what if someone doesn't buy the pack been asked? Is this Wipeout Pulse round 2? Is a split online community on the horizon?

[blackwiggle]

I think pretty must everybody that has HD will get,well those that have HD and played it to death,if for no other reason than they are bored with the same tracks.

[ProblemSolver]

About the enhanced stats.

@Connavar: I'm always amazed looking at the textured version of each
track. xD Perhaps I should start TTing around. Up to my taste the game
could be a bit faster, but unfortunately the crafts can't cope with higher
speeds. I hope there will be an DLC called Velocity where each craft is
enhanced with some insights drawn from the ZONE craft. Well, I think this
is already done to some extend if you look at the Zone Battle version of
each craft. I can tell you, the ZONE craft as well as the ZONE mode with
all its statistics are the prototypes for a high velocity WipEout, possibly
via an DLC. :) ...

[lunar]

Has the question of what if someone doesn't buy the pack been asked? Is this Wipeout Pulse round 2? Is a split online community on the horizon?

Well if people can see games online, try to join then get a message to say they can`t join because they haven`t bought the content then this split will have happened. As we saw with Pulse that`s a great way to alienate your customers. You`ve either got to have total separation of HD and HD Fury as games online, or make it so everyone downloads everything in an update and can still join games with the Fury content even if they haven`t bought it.

I don`t know about the faster ships.... seems kind of unfair but then the really fast pilots are probably OCD enough to do all their times again with the new ships. Maybe it`s just seen as a great way of marketing the pack to have faster ships. Who wants to be left behind with slower ships?

If there is a situation with faster ships available for TT and Speed Lap then there ought to be all-new scoreboards perhaps.

[RJ O'Connell]

Has the question of what if someone doesn't buy the pack been asked? Is this Wipeout Pulse round 2? Is a split online community on the horizon?
I think we will see players that don't like the new machines that much and run online races that only use the "Classic" ships (if there's a filter for that). I don't think SCEA is stupid enough to shoot itself in the foot like it did with Pulse.

[Darkdrium777]

AFAIK they already did with Pulse on PS2, but that's just my opinion... ;)

[RJ O'Connell]

They should have ported Pure instead, IMHO.

I'm already excited about Fury, Eliminator and Galaga (Detonator) are going to be rather awesome.

[OBH]

I still feel the new skins should not have increased stats, otherwise mixing them up with original skins is a waste of time. I wanted a nicer variety of ships on the grid.

Should instead let them race at super phantom or zen speed.

I still see making the original skins obsolete is stupid. how will those with fury compete with those without?

[RJ O'Connell]

Again, I can guarantee someone's going to start a "Classic Only" league for online play.

Except it won't be me, I'll be too busy messing around with the Fury machines to care too much ;)

[IDReaper]

Oh noez I just thought of something, I hope Mirage's stats remain even. If something become superior/inferior compared to others I don't think I would like that. All for Goteki with 11 thrust though:lol

[RJ O'Connell]

Just as long as the new EG-X doesn't suck balls.

[lunar]

I don't think SCEA is stupid enough to shoot itself in the foot like it did with Pulse.

I`m sure the Fury DLC will go to America, but I don`t think Sony`s feet are in a position where they can completely relax. I can easily imagine a situation where lots of players can`t get into Fury-only games, get the "you don`t have this content" message but don`t want to buy it or can`t afford it or it`s too expensive, so the people with Fury content don`t host games with it because they don`t get many people taking part, so the Fury content might as well not exist for online. Then people give up with Wipeout HD generally because it`s too much hassle getting a game together. I think this is what could happen if it`s not handled well, but we`ll have to wait and see about it suppose.

[Reezy]

Perhaps all the fury content online races will be highlighted in red so it will be easy to see which games you can join. I don't see it as much of a problem.
Eg. in Everybody's golf there are DLC courses, and if you don't have the course you can't join the tournament, its not very off putting at all. If anything it persuades people to buy the content because they can see that they are missing out on the action.

[lunar]

I do hope you`re right. I just worry because the Pulse DLC drove a wedge in the online play - but then it was very expensive to buy, difficult to buy for some people, and not an impulse purchase at all. It made things confusing online. But Clap Hanz do always seem to know what they`re doing, so if that is the model you could be right, I hope you are :)

[Reezy]

Also theres the fact that Wipeout is a PSN only purchase, so 100% of the consumer base has bought off PSN before. Therefore it is much more likely people will buy Fury too.

[Sch@dows]

I think Paul Tweedle already said on this forum how it will work. As described by someone, the player will have an error message when trying to enter a online event using Fury's content.

But since tracks and ships can ben modified after players have joined the event, I don't know if that message will be based on the game version of the host (so even with a Classic event the message will be displayed) or if you need to choose "Allow/Disallow Fury content" when creating an event. Otherwise, people could enter when the event has HD Classic only parameters, and get the message only when the race will start which will be very annoying for those who waited for nothing (I don't care since I will bought Fury >_<).

[Insayne]

Just posting to say I'm quite happy with Fury coming for WHD :D
Day #1 Purchase here :)

Thanks SL / Sony
(FYI: WHD is my reason to own a PS3)

[Sch@dows]

Wipeout (1) was my reason to buy a PS1 instead of a Saturn, despite being a Sega arcade games fan ( '_')
But I must say that WOHD is one of the best game to make my 360 friends full of regrets T_T

[Nunalho]

WHD 1080p/60fps only possible on PS3 :hyper

[Hemicrania]

whats a 360?



;)

[sny]

Wipeout (1) was my reason to buy a PS1 instead of a Saturn, despite being a Sega arcade games fan ( '_')
But I must say that WOHD is one of the best game to make my 360 friends full of regrets T_T

Same here, except WipEout 2097 and Tekken 2 were the two games that made me buy one. I played them at the games rental store I used to rent SNES games from and instantly fell in love with both. :rolleyes:

[Lance]

whats a 360?



;)

One-third of a 1080 in Bike Vert. :D

[KIGO1987]

whats a 360?



;)

A 360 is also know as a Cuntbox here.

[Hemicrania]

I just rolled under the table, laughing my ass off. lol


how direct haha

[XBARNSTERX]

i'll tell you lol. wind-ups . their talking about the x-box 360.

[Spece2goin]

who's talking about Moa Therma mag strip?

[LOUDandPROUD]

Hey, hey now...don't anyone be bashing the 360, as they make fantastic paper weights! :p I'm kidding, actually...I own one and love it. Well, I've loved it ever since getting it back from it's RROD repairs. :? LOL

[Hemicrania]

ah, I was wondering if there was a "Ps3 fanboy" atmosphere over here, but it seems there are some people playing the shitbox.

sorry going offtopic.

FURY iS GREAT!! GIVE IT TO ME< NOW!! ;)

[Rapier Racer]

I've got an elite, never really got into it I seem to instinctively not like it cos Playstation is in my blood :banzai 360 largely gathers dust.

However, Gears of War and Gears 2 are awesome games, its basically a dedicated gears machine not got many other games and I got no other games that actually get played on it as such.

It looses more points cos Wipeout ain't on it.

[RJ O'Connell]

I want to see a good future racer on Xbox 360, if Billzard did a Rock N Roll Racing "HD Remix" with CD-quality music and new levels I'd buy that in a heartbeat, but as long as Blizzard only focuses on Diablo, Starcraft and WoW that's not happening (maybe Backbone Entertainment could cook something up).

Fatal Inertia didn't do it for me and although Split/Second looks awesome from what I've seen, I'm still iffy on buying a game from the same publisher as Hannah Montana.

[eLhabib]

Rock'n'Roll Racing! Hell yes! :rock

[RagnaRock]

Rock'n'Roll Racing! Hell yes! :rock

from what i remenber thats not a futuristic game...is a regular car racing game with an isometric view.

wondering...a wipeout mini game with an isometric view would do the trick :P

*edit*
talking about minigames in wipeout a galaga/space invaders game with wipeout ships would be could to spend some time
hehehe

[Hemicrania]

Rock'n'Roll Racing! Hell yes! :rock

I played it to death on my megadrive. Fantastic game.:hyper

[RJ O'Connell]

from what i remenber [Rock n Roll Racing] is not a futuristic game...is a regular car racing game with an isometric view.
The setting of RnRR is most certainly in the far future.

(/offtopic)

[eLhabib]

I would literally kill for an HD remake of the original R'n'R Racing. If they even were to go out of their way to include online multiplayer and a track editor, I would never ever need another game.

sorry, back on topic please ;)

[OBH]

Rock'n'Roll Racing! Hell yes! :rock

yyyyeeeeaaaaahhh! :hyper one of the best racing games ever.

grips you immediately with the tunes dropping in bang on time with "ready set go"

Was all about Hawk :) Having "acceleration" and "jump" was just too good.

edit:
Sorry eL, i need to spread some rep love around before +1 you again :) Everyone who loves R&R racin' is a leg end in my book :hyper

[chboing]

i missed many hours of class to play this game at a friend's.

was great fun indeed ! :)

[Hemicrania]

WO HD Fury.... is it gonna be this week? :frown: (I hope so...)

Anybody has some inside info?

[djKyoto]

My TV needs the standby fixed.

NEED RELEASE DATE NOA.

[Darkdrium777]

I hope it comes out soon, otherwise I might not be able to get it before going on vacation to some place with no internet :( It would be great if I could bring Fury with me.

[Hemicrania]

WOEHOE!!

wish it was true...

[KIGO1987]

That would be awesome.

[ProblemSolver]

WOEHOE!!

wish it was true...
Summer may have a different meaning in England. :cold

[Seraphim1982]

Ok this carrot dangling is getting a bit silly now.

Time to release Fury SL, I got some pictures of the Queen that I want to give to you in exchange for it.

[Darkdrium777]

WAIT! We still need to find the French fries in the corner of this circular room... :brickwall

[Seraphim1982]

Screw the french fries, I want to dish out some plasmadeath in eliminator!

[Darkdrium777]

I hope that's one of the things Plasma does... 100 damage. And quake more than the measly 15 damage. Like 40 or something, it's a ****ing quake after all.
Inb4Repulsor.

[Seraphim1982]

If it does they need to make it more like the 2097 plasma where it was more like firing a super powerful pin than a big ball like it is now. IMHO the plasma is too easy to aim at the moment.

Rear locks with missiles wouldn't be too bad either.

[Darkdrium777]

Why rear lock when you can press R1 (Or whatever look back is set at) to flip around?

[Seraphim1982]

Was thinking for the normal races too. How often have you been in the lead by a fraction of a second begging to get a bomb or mines to help shake off the guy snapping at your heels to only get a missile, rockets or quake?

[Darkdrium777]

Honestly, never. I rely more on my piloting skills, and when/if the guy is really annoying me I'll slow down and shoot him with that rocket, missile or quake I have. :p
Whenever I do get mines or bomb I usually hate it because I've just ruined the other guy's race.
Adding rear lock to missiles would make it even more OP than rockets currently are, which is a lot.