That would explain the run in and close loss I had with them the other day! Glad to know it's him.
Well, it's a lot easier to learn Venom than Phantom, but it's also a lot easier to master Phantom than Venom, because of all the advanced SS/BR combo stuff Venom offers. No offense intended here, just a very straight explanation of how i see it.
Agreed. Take nothing away from phantom racers though, to nail the lines consistently is very skilful.
I'm so glad the slow rollers crowd came out! I totally agree with just about all the points you guys (Booney and JF) are making. I'm average to slightly better than average at Phantom. I've spent more time devoted to learning how to be an acrobat.
It is SOOO much easier to learn venom and SOOO much more difficult to master. In my experience, to succeed on venom, you have to pretty much take risks all the time that will cause you to lose to an average pilot if you mess up. Those shortcuts require precision, as do the triple rolls. At least with Phantom if you slide out of a line you can recover. One missed shortcut and it's game over on venom!
I'd love to do a Venom Masters thing. I don't mind fighting for 3rd place. Do you guys feel that with all the rolls that sometimes you feel like you are racing at Flash or even Rapier speed on average for a track with lots of rolls?
Would love a venom masters tournament, standard racing and some pure racing too.
count me in as well, im sure texasalex is in too
Ok, i'm in. wait for me, please im gonna borrow a ps4 from my friend. Lol
@JF: On PS3 HD, it was on one track even closer
Vineta k Rev venom #1: 22.24s
Vineta k rev flash #2 : 22.13s who was even booney, so no sloth there
Vineta k rev flash #3: 22.50s
It happened coincidently, while pushing the maximum out of the track. I noticed it later, but actually liked the idea to be faster than most flash pilots.
But as said, i'm in for some venom/flash tournaments - in August, though. Promised.
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I'll gladly fight for 3rd! I'm in!
I'd be interested in watching the "Slow Rollers Tourney". Someone please upload those we can see them.
Would we be seeing something soon @Hellfire?
Sorry, been really busy. Suddenly decided to complicate my life by trying to buy a house.
I've been thinking over how we could do this so we might be able to have as wide an ability range taking part as possible, but it's incredibly difficult as there is such an enormous gulf between the best players and beginners. There's only one way I can forsee to try and reduce the gulf a bit - turn off barrel rolls. If they stay on we may as well just give out the awards now.
Is this something people would agree to? If we do do a tournament we MUST make sure it is as accessible as possible to everyone, not just us.
It would be good if this type of tournament is the opportunity to bring new players and allow them to shine.
And as hellfire says, there is too much difference between the top class players that we find here and the average quidam who would like to try out wipeout. For me the best solution would be that the top player does not do this tournament but that they are working to promote it.
As Hellfire and tug said, it should be the most accessible possible : forbidding top players to compete, no barrel rolls... both solutions are good IMO.
Why not apply both ? A newcomer tournament with no BRs could appeal a lot of casual players and, if we're short on players, let the top players join since the gap would be slightly reduced.
I don't think we should exclude the top players, that's a little silly. If the barrel rolls are off it just becomes about the racing lines and use of weapons, which I think should be a pretty even playing field.
Side note, happy birthday Mikahail
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If a tournament with barrel rolls off, it wont help much imo because of skill cuts in 2048 (newer players may not know about it) Pickup RNG in 2048 (turbo spam spam and you can get 2-4 each lap no problem) and theres many spots you can use turbo in 2048 and weapons are very weak in 2048 and extremely unbalanced ships (feisar prototype on C-A on any track except sol, queens mall and altima) and AG systems on every A+ track. Yeah, 2048 has huge balancing issues
unless the tournament is HD only
Hellfire, is it gonna be weapons on/off/pure racing? or just weapons on?
Last edited by Racingfan; 25th August 2017 at 07:19 PM.
I'm open to ideas, but I think it'll be weapons on as I can see the majority of non-elite players favouring this. Plus it does give less experienced players a chance to catch up. If we do 2048 I may suggest restrictions on craft type dependent on the game mode, and I would be willing to bet that very few of the less experienced players would be up for racing on A+.