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[phl0w]

I don't want to nit-pick Lance, but what with your being the boards' grammarian and all, shouldn't

for almost it's entire lifespan

read its?

@topic: I made my points clear on, what, page 5? And I'm still not willing to fork out 5 Euros a pack. Maybe if they offer the whole package (4 teams and 4 tracks) for €5 at some point, I consider a purchase.

[sakerbax]

Now come on, you're criticising somone and then you go right ahead and do the exact same thing yourself? That's kinda weak, and quite the double-standard you're driving there.

Additionally, you're completely wrong.

This content was NOT already made, it wasn't made until after the game had been frozen for release. I'm not in SL or anything, but I know enough about software development to guarantee that as much as anyone outside of SL possible could. There's no time in the development phase to create content for after launch. There's no time for it until it's launch time. You're busy making the game itself, everything that will actually be on the UMD. The DLC is additional content not on the UMD.

Putting together a high-quality game takes more effort and teamwork than you'd believe, it's pretty close to impossible to do what you're suggesting.

well i had another post on the page before that and i didn't feel like repeating myself. there i mentioned this and based myself on this post from colin on the "10 things i hate about pulse"

Little known fact to share with WoZone
The Amphiseum was originally designed for Wipeout Pure, it was designed to be Sinucit, but we were never quite happy enough with it, so put it on the back burner and chose the track that ended up as Sinucit. We returned to it for the Pure downloads, but again we didnt get it how we wanted it so it stayed in the back ground. Come Pulse time we returned to it as priority and tweaked it, the tilted long straights and horse shoe bend were redone slightly and we actually cut a 'stepping stone' section out.

additionally I am aware that making a quality game takes time and money.
that's why i bought the game. i have no problem with piracy especially with dumb pc ports like halo2 wich requires a pc better than a 360 to play a game that ran on the original xbox.. but for wipeout and other series (quake starcraft/warcraft/diablo) i really feel like my money is well spent.
if it's not enough don't sell it so cheap (my copy was actually 50€) and the idea of free content isn't that original like you seem to think. quake games and most fps have map packs for download and even player models, stuff that programmers liked and weren't able to put into the game but wanted to share with the community.
lately it's been proven that ppl don't mind paying for this, and it's true but cmon it has to be a decent deal. and ill end this post the same way i ended my other 2 on the thread. it's too expensive for the ammount of content/features it adds to the game.

[Lance]

I don't want to nit-pick Lance, but what with your being the boards' grammarian and all, shouldn't

for almost it's entire lifespan

read its?

Indeed it should, but though I'm very aware of language, I am not always perfect in its execution. Close to, but not quite.

[Dr. Angryman]

OMG! New info on the packs! http://www.wipeoutpulse.com/en_US/index.html I simply can't wait! My favorite circuit on first glace is Vostok Reef. It's an underwater circuit, what's not to love? I love the Mirage craft. I think it'll hold well during racing.

[Dogg Thang]

Just to follow up on Task's point, the very first screenshot on IGN from 4th of April 2007 features Mirage prominantly. Other shots from that date feature Auricom. The first teaser trailer features Edgewinter track.

Now, we can't know whether they were finished or not. Quite likely not for the tracks (but, again, that's speculation) but there is no doubt some elements were in advance stages and I can't imagine that the ships weren't well finished given that Mirage and Auricom actually look the most finished of the craft back from April of last year. That's enough to disprove your point.

From that point, things get a little conflicted. The later trailer clearly lists the amount of tracks you get and the amount of teams that come with Pulse and, as I stated, for the price of Pulse I think there is loads there and it's very good value. There is tons of game for the price. But then the official site lists all the teams as if standard, and has done from the European launch. And, of course, the in-game advertising implies the teams are all present and correct (this is unlike Pure which added th new team ads when the packs began to become available - a far cleaner way of doing it if the packs are being paid for). So it's easy to see how people would think the teams at least should be standard.

But then I think the biggest issue is simply the price. Yeah, some people expect content for free but I think, if these packs were a good bit cheaper, there would be far fewer complaints.

[stin]

I did completed the Mirage Grid and seriously, I do really enjoyed the tracks and I AM getting next pack 2, when they become online.

stevie

[Dogg Thang]

I'm enjoying Vostok Reef and I love the visuals on that cave section. It's really nice. The layout feels really short but I quite like it. I could take or leave Edgewinter. That wavy section (that's in the trailer) looks great but actually doesn't really do anything and I find the visuals and layout a little dull when compared to the main bulk of the Pulse tracks.

[zargz]

I like better edgewinters layout coz no BS .. eer .. BRs

I'm sure the BR bas.. masters will find one soon enought but atm I'm enjoying it!

[KANDANG]

haha there is one on edgewinters !

[PjotrStroganov]

Yes, Frances, you can play the download tracks in the normal way, so long as everyone has them.

I really don't like this. It's going to split up the already small online community...

[zargz]

haha there is one on edgewinters !

I knew that!

so where is it?

[Asayyeah]

guess

[zargz]

ok, a wild guess:
over the small bump, before the magstrip, using the boost?
.

[Ash-Omen]

I really don't like this. It's going to split up the already small online community...

i agree this is stupid its gonna screw it all up, I for one aint played pulse since i found out about the packs costing so much too pissed off

[Ricanebleu]

Well, last night I realized the packs were out. Reading all this made me think about it and I came out with bitter taste. I don’t have a card and because of that it will be a long time until I’ll be able to have them. Why all the quotes? Because under all the rage that spurred here, exists some common sense. The bitter part is that in all this the image of WO has to suffer especially in the eyes of the people that were just beginning to see wipeout for what it is. This people are lost and most certainly will drop wipeout as just a simple game or turn over to piracy. It is sad.
The same “cheap” price of the game, from some countries, becomes enormous (up to half of a monthly paycheck) in others but it would have been more fair play to ask for a bigger price for the game and let the packs free. I just can’t help not thinking that drug dealers do the same: first dose in on the house, second is cheap and then …..you are hooked up.
But just to see the funny part ….does Overtel corporation rings any bell?

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This is the kind of thing that helps internet pirates justify sticking BACK to mega companies.

well I believe this IS true. In fact I believe with this kind of attitude Sony is loosing more money then they actually win.

I've just had a though, are SL getting much of the money per download, because if they are costing that much, they should get some royalties, heck, they made it.

But I doubt it. I could bet most of the money are going into Sony’s pockets especially from the pack sales.

Maybe the high price has something to do with low sales? I might be wrong but Motorstorm and Loco Roco at least seem far more popular titles than WipEout Pulse.

I believe this is going to bring the sales down even more. Some of my friends were planning to buy it and now thy changed their minds

[Alucioj]

Ive had trouble adding my debit card to the Playstation Store, clearly they dont want my money

[Nadia Elenova]

For those interested here are a few shots of the awesome looking mirage concept ship, enjoy .

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1...8212820yv1.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5...8212802oo2.jpg

Too similar to Goteki ship from Pure, I prefer the original Mirage design. (another reason for don't download the pack).

[Alex_Se]

I know this is off topic, but...
Is There any other way to pay on the store other than with a credit card?
If so, how can i select other payment types? When i try to add funds it asks me a credit card number and no other options.

It's like this:

Image <50Kb

[stin]

You don`t need a credit card even it`s written on it, now, it can be used Maestro, Solo and other two names which I can`t remember.

But, just click and you will see.

stevie

[Dogg Thang]

I think that may depend on your country, Stin. You could be right but I think debit cards only work in some places.