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[T-Rex29]

Same for me, I'm not going to pay 5€ for this pack.:-

[DjManiac21]

I already did and I regret it, it sucks not being able to use it all online...

[chri5]

I wont be paying for any download content, they've made the wrong decision charging for them. Why not keep it like pure?

[Dogg Thang]

Because they can't make free content endlessly. I agree that this has been done the wrong way but the fact is, work has to be paid for.

[richchestmat]

But anything advertised as the full game should not be costing extra. Harimau and Mirage...

The first pack or two should have been free to deliver what was promised. After that if they want to add brand new crafts then by all means charge for it. You are going to have to cost it a bit better though.

Not to mention that the PSP Store doesn't let you spend any less than £5 at a time. I bought WipEout for £3.49 but had to pay £5. The remainder is stuck inside the store and not in my pocket. Rip off.

[Dogg Thang]

Oh I totally agree. The Mirage craft especially was used all over to sell Pulse. Not Pulse paid download packs afterwards. Pulse itself. All over magazines and online sites. And, of course, the official site.

That it's not standard with Pulse I would have thought gets close to actually breaching trading standards.

I was simply answering the question of why extra content can't be free. But this Mirage in particular was never advertised as extra content.

[lunar]

Thanks to Asa for some great races on the new tracks. I like them both, Vostok the most for being a kind of groovy underwater Platinum Rush. I`ve already had £1.37 of fun on these tracks, so bring it on! However, Asa killed me with a plasma on Edgewinter, which took 17p off the amount of fun I was having. I do like the little flying bug things on Edgewinter.

I agree the whole thing could have been handled better, particularly with regard to the information consumers were provided with in advance. But some of the anger is over the top. Presumably the problem with Mirage is that it would cause too many problems with people not having the content, as it would pop up all over the online games, whereas the tracks would cause less of an issue. It`s a shame a way to deal with this couldn`t have been worked out, so others could see the ship even if they can play it. But let`s not be too mean here, please, even game developers have feelings. It`s not as if they`re demanding the entire contents of our bank accounts and our first born child, and it`s not as if we`re talking about boycotting South African Chardonnay to stop Apartheid.

Anyway, I think the pack content is very nice, and the underwater track is going to be madness on fast classes.

[borell]

Not that I will add anything to the discussion... but I am annoyed by this as well.

1) If I buy a pack I want to be able to use it in multiplayer.

2) I cannot buy the pack unless I first buy at least one computer and at least one Microsoft product (this is really annoying). Microtransaction?

If it was not for the above to problems, I would probably buy the pack. But I agree it is a little expensive. On the other hand, I do not need any more tracks for the moment. I have yet to learn racing the tracks I have.

[zargz]

here's another point of view:

at the moment I got no job and no money but I'll still buy it.
I don't care coz it is wipEout!


// borell

you can buy it from my pc


// lunar

I'm looking forward to race you on those new tracks

[sakerbax]

Presumably the problem with Mirage is that it would cause too many problems with people not having the content, as it would pop up all over the online games, whereas the tracks would cause less of an issue.

please.. if you don't have a real explanation don't try to make one up..

most of this content was most likely already made. (not all ships and tracks make it to the final game) dont try to explain that 5e is a small price. because it's not that small for someone who doesn't work. and if you compare it with the price of the game it's a huge margin of profit.

if you support this type of policies fine you're entitled to it but be aware there are valid reasons for both ways of seeing this issue.

(i'm sorry your post had kinda parental tone that i didn't like but the message wasn't for anyone in particular)

[guillaume]

After looking at the structure of the files, etc, I'm HOPING that unlike Pure, all regions will share the same GID so that saves, ghosts, expansions, and skins can be shared.

It looks like saves at least won't be compatible:

[About US version] I'm getting one, for sure - it's actually thrown cold water on my Pulse play, as my current profile has some borked times and I'm going to have to start a new one all over again, so I cant be bothered wasting time with the current one.

This adds to the disappointment... I'm still playing Pulse, only to get better for the Convention. Once I know which version is bug-free and played on multiplayer, with compatible packs (in case I ever buy them, I won't for now), then I'll buy this version, and sell the EU version I have now. Or maybe keep it, because I'd advice anyone to buy the bug-free version as well...

[Roz]

Well, I wont be getting this pack anytime soon, that's for sure. 5€ for only 2 tracks and 1 ship? And to add for the insult, the ship can't go online and the tracks are just one run? I would expect the full track, that is, both runs.

What a way to milk.

[lunar]

Sakerbax, sorry if I offended you. I`m speculating about Mirage, I thought that would be obvious and I`m hardly the only speculator in this thread. I`m not defending the price, and you won`t find me doing so. As you say, my post wasn`t addressed to anyone in particular. I`m not blaming people for stating their views, but some of the moaning is creating a bad atmosphere. I guess this is one of those situations where any contribution can only add fuel to the fire. I`ll just keep my head down until it passes I think.

[Lion]

my guess as to the single-player-only mirage (and probably future ships?) is that has not been as finely balanced against the other ships, so it's considered an unfair advantage? in which case it's irrelevant anyway since all involved players would need to own the ship to be able to see it anyway.

Regardless of the reason, if we'd been told months ago that the addon ships were going to be offline only, I think the outcry would have been somewhat less (or maybe just quieter, spread over a longer time)
The PSN store page doesn't say anything about this limitation either, the closest I have seen to an official statement to that effect is the front page of wipeoutzone.com. "oh, by the way" as a means of delivering this info doesn't help the situation

[Frances_Penfold]

Thanks to Asa for some great races on the new tracks. I like them both, Vostok the most for being a kind of groovy underwater Platinum Rush. I`ve already had £1.37 of fun on these tracks, so bring it on! However, Asa killed me with a plasma on Edgewinter, which took 17p off the amount of fun I was having. I do like the little flying bug things on Edgewinter.

I agree the whole thing could have been handled better, particularly with regard to the information consumers were provided with in advance. But some of the anger is over the top. Presumably the problem with Mirage is that it would cause too many problems with people not having the content, as it would pop up all over the online games, whereas the tracks would cause less of an issue. It`s a shame a way to deal with this couldn`t have been worked out, so others could see the ship even if they can play it.

Lunar, so it IS possible to play the DLC tracks with normal online multiplayer if both players have purchased the content? Or is this only via Kai or another tunneling application?

I think your explanation about Mirage and other DLC ships not being used online makes sense-- displaying the ships in game is a HUGE deal, of course. Unless the "DLC" was ALREADY on the Pulse UMD, I don't see how this would be handled.

And can you imagine how pissed off people would be if the "DLC" was already on the Pulse UMD, and the file that you downloaded only allows access to it? I can't imagine Sony would want to go that route.

[lunar]

Yes, Frances, you can play the download tracks in the normal way, so long as everyone has them.

[Dogg Thang]

I think your explanation about Mirage and other DLC ships not being used online makes sense-- displaying the ships in game is a HUGE deal, of course. Unless the "DLC" was ALREADY on the Pulse UMD, I don't see how this would be handled.

Well the content may not be on the UMD but the Mirage, among others, was ready long before release so it's odd they wouldn't have thought of putting the model in there for easy online recognition.

[rejj]

Whinging about it in this forum isn't going to achieve anything, so instead I'm just going to vote with my wallet.


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[leoalexus]

any news on when the next DLC packs will be coming out?

also, can you copy and paste the content to another psp without having to DL it?
I doubt it.. but worth a try

[Dogg Thang]

There's a pack a week for the next three weeks. Icaras is next.