Hey blackwiggle, did you ever run a gran prix with anyone? I did a few races on eliminator at phantom speed back in the hd days. Basically, you set the points to 600, and don't use weapons and get all your points from laps. I know this is kind of the opposite of "this race is too long" but I thought I'd throw it out there while thinking about it. It was awesome to do 120 lap races with close competition.