New Wipeout HD patch

[Aeralys]

In the end, people end up with a broken product. That is all that should matter form a consumer point of view. I acknowledge the difficulty of testing a game but in the end I shouldn't have to. I shouldn't have to care whether Toyota had difficulties quality testing their cruise control. I just want a product that works the way it's intended. And currently it doesn't.

For the consumer this is true. My intention was to argue that saying SL had "screwed up big time" or were "pathetic" was a bit of a stretch, as the patch has provided some progress. It's a frustrating issue, but I'm sure we actually trust SL enough to know that once they're back from their excursion this bug will be fixed, it's just a matter of when.

[Dark_Phantom_89]

But the only issues that have been fixed were ones that SL introduced with previous patches. So there hasn't really been much progress.

[BlackReign]

Yeah, the game has been effectively "broken" since 2/14/12. Nearly half the year. Crazy.
I did get a tweet from Stuart Lovegrove at SL saying sever maintenance is supposed to happen on Monday and that it's supposed to help.

[AmigoJack]

You tried QA for yourself

It's one of my main tasks at work and I keep finding a lot of bugs in bugfixes. I also have to fight against test environments that are pretty much useless for QA and I fear Studio Liverpool lives in a similar world: the work flow is already good, but the tools are crippled. For everyone.

it's important for us to give constructive feedback

Just how? I'm one of the last people on earth being able to write reports APAP (as precise as possible) with all the info I can gather to hand over. But I have no chance, because

• Others on first contact always classify me as general idiot. Can't really argue on that, because I've seen endless "bug reports" which were just invalid, mostly because of not reading any manual or notice.
• The e-mail address for 2048 does not exist (anymore).
• I have no Facebook.
• Tweet a bug report? Too few characters, even for Japanese people.

Also Patch 2.51 didn't improve anything to me: same symptoms as before and my rank is also still at 1. Used my other account (which exists since years) for the first time on W'O''HD and the very same there. Plus: the first time I joned a game and was about to choose a craft, the display froze (menu music was still playing) - had to manually shutdown my PS3.

[Aeralys]

When I said progress I meant in regards to integrating robust cross play, though I guess it is debatable given what is actually fixed differs between us. Also I was referring to useful feedback just here. I think the discovered problems were compiled for 2.50 somewhere in this thread (whether some were invalid reports or not, we can't always be right), it just helps a little. We're not required to by any means, but we just do because we like playing this game and want the experience to be as smooth as possible.

Though from my understanding I can still enjoy this game as it is, so it does it's job well enough. For it to feel broken to me would have to take that enjoyment away, which is again debatable. Hell the only games I had owned and considered broken was PS3 Skyrim and Sonic 06. Whether someone can enjoy it or not with their alternate account, different rank and rare game freeze (to name a few problems) is their issue. But that's as far as I'll go on this, here's hoping that the maintenance Monday helps out.

[GiraffeRider]

Another good point is we got back the old handling and speed.

If so, I'm going to go against the tide and commend SL for this patch. Having to make a second account is a small price to pay for getting ZB and the good handling back. Sure, the game's still worse than it was before the crossplay mess, and migrating the friends list will be annoying, but at least they're slowly getting things fixed.
Before I go ahead and upgrade from my trusty 2.1, can anyone confirm that the handling is back to the way it was before? Thanks!

[BlackReign]

The server maintenance seems to have helped for me. I was able to play online. However, I could not access online while already being signed into PSN. I had to log out of PSN while in game then connect to online. I only had time for 3 races on rapier so I can't really say if handling is different or what it was before. I don't recall that change being mentioned in the patch notes but who knows. They may have thrown it in. Like everyone else though, my rank was not reset to what it was prior to all the patching (82). I'm still a 25/26.

[DrMannevond]

I was able to play online again today and had some great races. The controls do feel a bit different, and my tt times seemed to improve slightly, but I haven't played enough to really be able to tell. My online rank is still 13, not 78 like it used to be, but I've gotten over that.

[Dark_Phantom_89]

At least I am able to get online, but I'm still miffed about the rank not being sorted out.

[MegaGeeza22]

I just tried it out and its working fine for me too! its good that we didn't need to wait for a new patch!
I will be back playing it again tomorrow! see you then

[ericd7]

Played this afternoon and it worked well too (only one disconnection )
I spoke too fast concerning the speed, agree with DrMannevond it's a different handling than 2.50 but still very very hard to catch previous ghosts.
I had problems to get boost start, like the timing is a bit harder than before.Do you feel the same?

[BlackReign]

Server maintenance was done yesterday and my old rank is back. It also seems augmented to include the rank I got since it was resent to zero. Before all the patching I was an 82 and now i'm and 86. Yay!

[Colonel]

It certainly has been augmented as you say BlackReign. I was rank 84 when 2.50 was released. Since then I've got to 36, and my new restored rank is 91. Very cool that they've done this, "Overlord" is in sight now

[Azurooth]

Since they performed the maintenance loading times while choosing track online works far better for me (faster). My rank is also restored, have to say i was doubtful about getting my rank back. Very happy about this.

[scarfrogers]

Yep mine has also been added together! Weed_Junky1/2/3 must be in the....billions?

Not sure about the online speed though when joining races. Still a bit slow.

[docfo4r]

My rank also got restored and added up. Sweet
Did anyone test online Zone Battle yet?

[Ami Nakajima]

My rank also got restored and added up. Sweet
Did anyone test online Zone Battle yet?

Excellent news
All HD ranks should now be restored following yesterday's server down-time. If anyone is still experiencing problems with their rank, feel free to get in touch with me.

[Colonel]

Did anyone test online Zone Battle yet?

Yes, I've tested it, I've had numerous sessions since the release of 2.51 and not had a single glitch

[docfo4r]

Great!!! Don't want to fire anything up too early but it seems like we finally have a fully functioning Wipeout HD!!

[JFthebestJan]

...it seems like we finally have a fully functioning Wipeout HD!!

hmm, fully functional huh? what's with the leaderboards? still completely broken. new detonator and zone scores will always show up on the front end of the boards...