Random HD Questions that don't need a thread of their own.

[ProblemSolver]

Yeah the save files are different, ...

What about the trophies? Will there be two different sets of trophies, one for
the retail version, and one for the DL version of the game, or not?

[Dark_Phantom_89]

ProblemSolver - No, there is only one set of trophies

[F.E.I.S.A.R]

If you beat someone using a HD ship and the person you beat was using a Fury Ship,are you considered better?

[Koleax]

Yes, better because you beat them.

Are you considered even better for using an HD ship? It looks cool, I think, but no I don't think that is generally the case.

[Dan Locke]

Well, considering the Fury ships' stat boosts, I'd say yes.

Provided, of course, that you were piloting the normal version of your opponent's ship.

[SaturnReturn]

Given the lack of definition I'd say it's difficult to tell.

How did you 'beat' them? Multiplayer race? Weapons on or weapons off? In the TT or SL record tables? (Eliminator?).

Was it a one-off? Was it multiple times on multiple tracks? What was the margin?

What's 'better'? Faster? More accurate with weapons? Better overall or on one track?

Even if you're just talking a straight up weapons off race then there is plenty that could have affected the other person's performance. Even if performance weren't affect at all, then it would still be hard to tell from only one race.

If you consistently beat someone many many times over a sustained period in various game modes, then possibly you can claim to be 'better'.

As Koleax says, having a ship with lower stats is redundant if you beat them. Ship choice is also relatively insignificant online. Even offline, in many cases, the stats increase is compensated by the fact that the ship handles oddly and is unfamiliar. Familiarity matters.

Now, if someone beat you by a narrow margin in, for example, Fury FEISAR on Sol 2 Phantom Time Trial, and you used HD FEISAR, then you could argue they had a stats advantage and that you're more even than the times on the board would suggest - even more so in the case of Harimau. But that's about it.

Anyway, don't worry about being better than anyone other than yourself. Just keep playing and keep improving.

[crawdad62]

I've never actually sat down and examined the stats but I do know the Fury ships are "enhanced" a bit. But as Saturn alluded to there's so many variables it's not really clear what beating someone playing ship X is with ship Y.

I play with a Fury Feisar but lately if I'm in a room with players that either don't have Fury or are just going "old school" I'll switch to a HD Feisar.

[blackwiggle]

It doesn't really matter about the crafts stat's when playing online,taken as a whole,your going to get craft/track combos that work slightly better,but it all evens out and there really isn't that much in it.

The Fury craft upgrades are mostly to handling & shields,not speed,and I'm not sure they are enhanced over the HD craft as I,and others, find them unwieldy in comparison,and often use the older HD craft.

There was a HD online player called Wellington86 that used to use Feisar,supposedly the slowest craft, and was basically unbeatable online.
If he were to return to playing I think the outcome would still be the same,even if he used the older HD Feisar.

[Aeroracer]

probally been asked a 100 times but i cant remember what anyone said if it has been..
question is....

why cant we use zone tracks for online races.

they look boring but play well with no stupid bit of scenary that can stop you 800 mph ship dead and send it flying backwards..

hardly hard for SL to make this happen..

[Koleax]

They are playable for online zone battle, but I suppose the main reason is that they are designed to be "pure" and untainted by weapons and things like an unmoving finish line, which would change the aesthetic.

You're upset about Metropia again, huh?

[crawdad62]

Could you imagine a Zone track in a Eliminator game? All that flashing when changing direction. I think that would cause me to have a seizure!

[Dan Locke]

That's the idea.

[Aeroracer]

They are playable for online zone battle, but I suppose the main reason is that they are designed to be "pure" and untainted by weapons and things like an unmoving finish line, which would change the aesthetic.

You're upset about Metropia again, huh?

wow..how do you know these things...

i hate that little bolt in the side of metropia wall that sends me into space.

seriously i just think zone tracks could be used so there more tracks to race on.

[Koleax]

I remembered because I was hoping you could teach me to fly into the air at certain spots so I could take some nice pictures.

I was able to get a lot of good ones from this spot and there's another after the first hill, but that one's a little boring because it's between those two wide twin towers.

The zone tracks have a different rendering scheme from the others too, when they are in normal race mode. The Pure Four don't seem to have their own colors or textures independent from the zone colors. If for the purposes of single races they blanketed the track with a solid color, it might look very boring. Or, if they coded single races to have zone coloring effects, with depth gradients and everything, it might look strange, particularly with ships that don't have the zone battle skins. So, I'm not sure.

[Aeroracer]

lol..why would you want me to teach you how to epically crash..its bad for good racing times..

it is quite a hard crash to do anyway.only seems to happen when you dont want it too.

nice pic btw

most annoying crash is gotta be vinetta k last jump over crack in track..its where you hit edge of tunnel and stop dead and just drop down the pit whilst your fellow pilots laugh as they fly overhead.

most spectacular crash would be the overshoot BR on the second big turn on sol forward that sends you into space if you BR to quickly.

[blackwiggle]

There was a thread ages ago when HD was first released called "How high can you fly",where people posted photos from accidents that shot them into the air.

There were a lot from that spot on Metropia.

[Aeroracer]

maybe we should create a group called mile high club for players who can crash and float off into the stratospere.

[Mateo]

What's the third time thing in the statistics menu? I have:
-Spielzeit: 292:26:28
-Zeit für Statistik-Betrachtung: 0:17:13
-Zeit in der Luft: 982:47:31

The first one is the game time (on the upper border of the screen) . The second one is the time spent in the statistics menu (in the lower right corner). But what is this in the lower left corner? Directly translated it's "time in the air"???

[Woopzilla]

It's the total time that you spent in the air by doing jumps/flying off ramps. Eg. Turbo boosting for the shortcuts on Sebenco + Ubermall give you lots of airtime.

But it should only be very small... you spent more time in the air than you've played wipeout. It's probably bugged... like the 'Photos Taken' for some people is in the tens of thousands.

I have a game time of 154:25:08 and a 'time spent in the air' of 14:05:09.

[Mateo]

Ahh okay, that's it. I was wondering what it could be with more than 900 hours... maybe the time I was hanging around in the menu or in lobbies waiting for the race start, but even for that 900+ hours would have been too much. So it's just bugged.