commercials in online loading screens?

[Zach Keene]

If I am right about this, it would mean that the ads are artificially increasing the load times on certain levels (Zone especially). While it's a small amount, it is certainly a disturbing trend.

I haven't broken out the stopwatch to be 100% certain, but I'm noticing the same thing.

[mdhay]

Hypothetically, since adverts were added from the 2.0 patch, so you should be able to delete HD, download it again, but not download the patch and you won't have them. You'll sacrifice playing online, though.

[PjotrStroganov]

It depends whether the game has or hasn't been patched in the store already.

[IH8YOU]

In the US - if you delete the game - you get 1.26 from the store - and it has not been patched.

You will not get Fury - and you will not have the ability to play online.

2.01 on HD streams ads, too.

I went to 1.26 (this was yesterday, btw) - and got peer pressured by a couple of friends to rejoin the online community. Updated to 2.01 so I could do so (but did not reinstall Fury) - anyhow ads were back, and in full force.

I'd guess the days are numbered for 1.26 in the store - but let me tell you - it's an epic suck tradeoff. Perfectly good working HD game - and you get to play it all by yourself.

[Cerium]

It's been touched on before, and after finishing an entirely offline session today, I've been spammed by the ads every 2-3 races. Adverts generally don't bug me when they're not effecting the game (See: Wipeout XL's Red Bull Ads. Those were kind of amusing), but these are.

Most of you already noticed, but the progress bar got bigger... kind of. There's actually two of em there mashed together.
The first is the standard "loading" progress bar; it's just as big as it was before and seems to do the exact same job. The new bit, where the mode icon used to be, is a timer for the ad. No matter how quickly the track loads, the bar will stop and tick along the timer portion until the ad plays out (as evident with the zone tracks from pure). Wonderful.

I get the whole money thing and... you know what? Screw it. I'm too tired to rant coherently anyway. All I can think of at this point is this:

State Farm? Really?

[Aeroracer]

ha hah...just watched the advert..it's really crap..

I rest my case

[Zach Keene]

Hypothetically, since adverts were added from the 2.0 patch, so you should be able to delete HD, download it again, but not download the patch and you won't have them. You'll sacrifice playing online, though.

Someone upthread mentioned still getting the ads even signed out of PSN and with the cable unplugged. I wonder if setting the system date back before last Thursday would disable them...

Edit: Nope, it didn't.

[gettinmoney662]

Hahaha, I read the first four pages of this thread and the replies are hilarious. I find it so funny that people are so vehemently against advertisements and I know the real reason why: they think advertisements brainwash you into buying things and they don't have the will power to resist.

Who cares if there is an advertisement in the loading screen? Who even cares if there's an advertisement in an in-game billboard? How does that affect the gameplay at all? Is your ADHD so bad that you can't ignore them and crash into the walls?

The only time I would complain about advertisements in a game would be if the advertisement played in the middle of the screen during a race. Any other option is fine with me because I will do what any normal person does who is not interested in buying the product being advertised: ignore it.

Furthermore, if this is all it takes to get you to stop playing Wipeout and supporting Studio Liverpool, then you weren't much of a fan to begin with.

[mdhay]

You really want bad rep, don't you?

[Frances_Penfold]

I don't think the commercials are THAT bad, but I can't help but respond to this

Who cares if there is an advertisement in the loading screen? Who even cares if there's an advertisement in an in-game billboard? How does that affect the gameplay at all?

Your username is PERFECT

... do what any normal person does who is not interested in buying the product being advertised: ignore it.

This can't possibly be "normal," why would companies invest in advertising to begin with?

[gettinmoney662]

This can't possibly be "normal," why would companies invest in advertising to begin with?

To announce new products, to market products to their target markets, etc.

If I ignore a Hannah Montana commercial because I'm not interested in Hannah Montana, does that mean companies shouldn't be investing in advertising?

Do you pay strict attention to every single advertisement you see?

What confuses me isn't that SL thought State Farm would be a good company to partner with but why State Farm thought Wipeout would be a good place to advertise their products. It seems to me like a waste of their advertising budget.

[newtype]

Hahaha, I read the first four pages of this thread and the replies are hilarious. I find it so funny that people are so vehemently against advertisements and I know the real reason why: they think advertisements brainwash you into buying things and they don't have the will power to resist.

Who cares if there is an advertisement in the loading screen? Who even cares if there's an advertisement in an in-game billboard? How does that affect the gameplay at all? Is your ADHD so bad that you can't ignore them and crash into the walls?

The only time I would complain about advertisements in a game would be if the advertisement played in the middle of the screen during a race. Any other option is fine with me because I will do what any normal person does who is not interested in buying the product being advertised: ignore it.

Furthermore, if this is all it takes to get you to stop playing Wipeout and supporting Studio Liverpool, then you weren't much of a fan to begin with.

You are making so many assumptions about why people don't like what SL /Sony is doing with the loading screen ads...if you honestly believe we don't like them because we are worried about getting "brainwashed," then you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

Being a fan doesn't mean you blindly swallow whatever a company throws at you.

[Frances_Penfold]

I just think that advertising functions not only to INFORM consumers but also to PERSUADE potential customers, often relying on detailed analysis of human behavior and psychology to manipulate an audience.

Personally, I don't think that my purchases are much impacted by advertising. I still find it distasteful and icky to have advertising blatantly inserted into a video game product, especially when the advertising is clearly out-of-place with the game franchise.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm really not *offended* by the advertising because the PS3 platform is in trouble and I think we are lucky that Sony is supporting the franchise to the extent that it is. But I'd still prefer that the advertising wasn't there. I would similarly guess that most of the members of Studio Liverpool-- folks that have spent so much time and effort to make the game an artistic and technical masterpiece-- would rather not have such stuff inserted into the loading screens, too.

[gettinmoney662]

You are making so many assumptions about why people don't like what SL /Sony is doing with the loading screen ads...if you honestly believe we don't like them because we are worried about getting "brainwashed," then you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

Being a fan doesn't mean you blindly swallow whatever a company throws at you.

Then tell me how an ad during a loading screen affects your gameplay in any way, shape, or form?

What don't you like about the ads? Do you not like how they're unintrusive and are separated from when you play the actual game? Do you not like how they mean extra revenue for SL and is probably why we got such a beefy expansion for a low price? Do you not like how it might support SL in making future expansion packs and bringing more of your favorite tracks into HD?

No one cares what you guys would prefer. I would prefer if there were no ads as well. I would also prefer Fury to have been free. I would also prefer if Sony were to give us $20 every month to make PSN purchases with.

When given a choice, I don't think anyone would choose ads over no ads so of course you would prefer no ads, but if 30 second ads lead you to stop playing Wipeout forever, there's something more behind this than just a preference against ads.

[IH8YOU]

Gettin - my guess is either you're either a Troll, work for Sony, Studio Liverpool or the AD agency. At least - that's what your responses seem to indicate.

I stopped playing Wipeout because of the ads - they break your immersion into the game - and the same ads over, and over - ruin the experience. So because I'm bothered by these ads to a great extent - that makes me not a fan of Wipeout? That's -- not even worth responding to. (it's that dumb)

[Syntek]

Okay, now it's starting to bother me. Tracks don't load completely until the Ad is finished... every single time.

The Loading Bar can be half-way through and when the Ad finishes, It magically loads instantly. And if the loading bar is at the very end and the ad isn't, the loading bar takes it's sweet time to finish loading until the Ad is done.



Amazing.

[SabinSlash]

The MS philosophy? *sigh*
(We see how that turns out reguarding "exclusives")

MS? Morgan Stanley?

hehe i used to work there as an ETL developer...

The ads are hard to ignore and take me out of the Wipeout mind set! So i say stop putting Ads in games. Especially if i already paid for a game with NO ads in it.

BTW i got 5th place in Tech De reverse SL.

[gettinmoney662]

Gettin - my guess is either you're either a Troll, work for Sony, Studio Liverpool or the AD agency. At least - that's what your responses seem to indicate.

Is it because my responses are logical and aren't full of whiny hyperbole?

I stopped playing Wipeout because of the ads - they break your immersion into the game - and the same ads over, and over - ruin the experience. So because I'm bothered by these ads to a great extent - that makes me not a fan of Wipeout? That's -- not even worth responding to. (it's that dumb)

Really? The loading screens affect your immersion into the game so significantly that a different loading screen automatically makes you disassociate yourself with the game? I guess the game's graphics, speed, controls, and sound can't be compared to a good loading screen. I guess the loading screen is a bigger part of the experience than the race itself, huh?

And I'm the troll?

[Vartazian]

as Much as I dont usually listen to a New Users posts, His Arguements hold a substantial more amount of water then IH8YOU's Points.

IMO IH8YOU you are just being a tad immature. its like saying, Im not going to watch my favorite TV show because theres a commercial I dont like, its just silly. If It gives SL more money im all for it, Bring the ads to canada.

Going so far overboard as too delete one of your favorite games (From what ive gathered, I apologize if im incorrect) over a few add's seems like something a child would do.

However you spent the 30 dollars, if you feel like deleting it over something as trivial as this its your choice!

Just my 2 Cents

[mdhay]

MS? Morgan Stanley?

He means Microsoft.