Rapier Pilot
^^I agree with the above post.
I think it was Colin or Paul(maybe) who said the ship stats were somewhat negligible, meaning they had been balanced with the old ships. It wouldn't really make much sense that they would release DLC that would gimp the original ships as they are.
Rapier Pilot
Yeah I don't see how they could "enhance" the stats of the new ships in an expansion pack. Unless the ships couldn't be used in HD which I don't see happening. However I would think they'd have something tweaked from the HD ships. I'm curious to whether they're closely aligned with their HD counterparts or a complete rewrite?
Content Contributor
Perhaps the bonus stats play a role in only Eliminator, in this case it doesn't matter at all how balanced the ships are.
Veteran Pilot
Perhaps those skins are not available for online use?
Phantom Pilot
We clearly saw during the french footage (single race and zone battle) that the ships have enhanced stats (differences in red).Originally Posted by Darkdrium777
Even if it was the case, the offline time trials would be uploaded to the score board.
Content Contributor
Yes I know but what I mean is those red bonuses don't activate for the normal races/times where the times are recorded, only in modes like eliminator and zone battle, where I don't think anything is recorded to a leaderboard. Don't know if my idea is clear enough...
Rapier Pilot
I don't think I've seen the video. So what you're saying is there's say an Icarus that shows the original stat lines and then the enhancement to those stats being represented in a red bar? I could see that being the case... only in Eliminator or Zone Battle. Otherwise it reverts to the original Icarus stats.
Phantom Pilot
http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video...d-f_videogames
look from 00:35 to 00:42.
We can clearly see 2 stats lines from the AG-SYS. As the player switch between normal and "concept" ship, the red part of the stats disappears.
It is a single race event.
PS : as previously said, you can switch between teams with Left-Right, and switch bewteen skins with Up-Down. So, it seems there are 3 color patterns for the concept ships.
The following zone battle event is only played with "concept" ships (transparent parts), and the stats are all full.
Last edited by Sch@dows; 25th June 2009 at 02:57 PM.
Rapier Pilot
Thanks Sch@dows. Interesting. I still don't see how they'd let you compete in the original HD tracks with ships that exceed the original ships performance parameters with other pilots that don't have the expansion pack. Of course that would make a pretty good case for people to purchase said expansion pack
Veteran Pilot
Has the question of what if someone doesn't buy the pack been asked? Is this Wipeout Pulse round 2? Is a split online community on the horizon?
Veteran Pilot
I think pretty must everybody that has HD will get,well those that have HD and played it to death,if for no other reason than they are bored with the same tracks.
Extreme Pilot
About the enhanced stats.
@Connavar: I'm always amazed looking at the textured version of each
track. xD Perhaps I should start TTing around. Up to my taste the game
could be a bit faster, but unfortunately the crafts can't cope with higher
speeds. I hope there will be an DLC called Velocity where each craft is
enhanced with some insights drawn from the ZONE craft. Well, I think this
is already done to some extend if you look at the Zone Battle version of
each craft. I can tell you, the ZONE craft as well as the ZONE mode with
all its statistics are the prototypes for a high velocity WipEout, possibly
via an DLC....
Zone Pilot
Well if people can see games online, try to join then get a message to say they can`t join because they haven`t bought the content then this split will have happened. As we saw with Pulse that`s a great way to alienate your customers. You`ve either got to have total separation of HD and HD Fury as games online, or make it so everyone downloads everything in an update and can still join games with the Fury content even if they haven`t bought it.
I don`t know about the faster ships.... seems kind of unfair but then the really fast pilots are probably OCD enough to do all their times again with the new ships. Maybe it`s just seen as a great way of marketing the pack to have faster ships. Who wants to be left behind with slower ships?
If there is a situation with faster ships available for TT and Speed Lap then there ought to be all-new scoreboards perhaps.
Zone Pilot
I think we will see players that don't like the new machines that much and run online races that only use the "Classic" ships (if there's a filter for that). I don't think SCEA is stupid enough to shoot itself in the foot like it did with Pulse.
Content Contributor
AFAIK they already did with Pulse on PS2, but that's just my opinion...
Zone Pilot
They should have ported Pure instead, IMHO.
I'm already excited about Fury, Eliminator and Galaga (Detonator) are going to be rather awesome.
Zone Pilot
I still feel the new skins should not have increased stats, otherwise mixing them up with original skins is a waste of time. I wanted a nicer variety of ships on the grid.
Should instead let them race at super phantom or zen speed.
I still see making the original skins obsolete is stupid. how will those with fury compete with those without?
Zone Pilot
Again, I can guarantee someone's going to start a "Classic Only" league for online play.
Except it won't be me, I'll be too busy messing around with the Fury machines to care too much
Phantom Pilot
Oh noez I just thought of something, I hope Mirage's stats remain even. If something become superior/inferior compared to others I don't think I would like that. All for Goteki with 11 thrust though
Zone Pilot
Just as long as the new EG-X doesn't suck balls.
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