V1.40 tomorrow!

[crawdad62]

--Good racing lastnight Crawdad62, i was going to join your room but you took it down before i could get in.

You too. I saw your invite today. Sorry I missed it but I sent you a friends request.

As for the freeze you're saying that even though you're froze out of the race your ship is in the race itself? I hear the audio but it isn't the race. It's the roaring sound that occurs when everyone's at the line. But I don't hear the countdown. I've never stayed long enough to see what happens. I just reboot the PS3.

[DividedXZero]

As for the freeze you're saying that even though you're froze out of the race your ship is in the race itself?

The race was over and i could see the "transparent white" screen that shows your time and finishing position, and normally it would say at the top "Viewing Results in: x seconds".

But there was not seconds displayed so i just sat there looking at the times waiting for the podium screen to be displayed. (but the game still runs in the bkg once you finish the race)

[ProblemSolver]

...
- please re-add the beep beep beep beep in Zone mode when you're about
to die, at least make it an option somewhere
- would be nice to be able to use the right stick to STEER, right now,
left-handeds are advantaged, this would be very useful in Zone especially ...

Fully signed.

Additionally
- would be nice to be able to use the right stick to PITCH

Pitching the zone craft with the right stick would definitely increase
stability control in order of magnitudes. Please do it. It takes nothing to
implement it. Please.

[ProblemSolver]

... To reiterate- the ONLY fixes in V1.40 are the stutter when someone joins a race/spectates and the mines timing issue.

And you also fixed those Lemmings out of the SUPERSONIC color scheme!
LOL Nice joke from patch 1.30. I have do admit, I was irritated by these
Lemmings. But now everything runs as smooth as before. As a result, I could
incease my perfect zones by 7 (to a 92) on ANULPHA PASS. xD

But now to the real deal.
Why do we have to life with the 1006-zones-glitch on ANULPHA PASS (ZONE)
for over 5 month now? Tell me! Today I was told that SL doesn't know
about how it works. LOL That is wrong! Back in January I contacted SL (can't
talk about who I was talking to, but if you send me a PN, then I will give
you two valid email adr. and a name of a person everybody knows at SL very,
very well). I've sent a full bug-report on how the glitch works. I actually
sent that report two times. And what? Noooooooothing.

Here is the original thread about the 1006 zones issue; cheating the ZONE.
And, I can assure you that an official high bird from SL had read the
given thread.

I will now make a final try, with the help of Darkdrium777, to make you
(Paul) aware of the issue. I will send you and Darkdrium777 a PN on how the
glitch works and Darkdrium777 will additionally send you a video.

You have one month....


()

[qirex]

...
Additionally
- would be nice to be able to use the right stick to PITCH

while you're at useful suggestion for the controller settings:
would be nice to configure air breaks / side shift separately.
like breaks on R2/L2 and shift on R1/L1.

otherwise thanks for the quick fix to the SL hd addon/support team.

...
You have one month....

you probably don't know how difficult stuff
like such a glitch is reproduce and fix.
but would be nice to filter out the obliviously
glitched times/scores.

[ProblemSolver]

you probably don't know how difficult stuff
like such a glitch is reproduce and fix.
but would be nice to filter out the obliviously
glitched times/scores.

I know it -- I'm a developer myself. Anyways, everything is in place to
fix that problem within hours. I can even provide a solution on how to
fix it, if necessary.

Btw; There was a reason for the smiley.

[IH8YOU]

Ahhh - the chips all fall into place. Now I understand how Problemsolver hits those Zones - you're one of "those" people.

Programmers are always a "different" bunch.

[ProblemSolver]

xD

Na ... I'm a mathematician who also spends a lot of time in developing and
implementing mathematical approximations schemes for fluid-flow simulation.
I'm a lot into C/C++ and Assembler as well (even on the Cell/B.E. processor).

I would love to have an 3d model of the zone craft to compute the shock
waves at mach 1 (zone 60). That should give some pretty decent pictures.

And, why not adding (fake) shock waves to the zone craft once it hits
mach 1? Shock waves are visible because the higher air density (at the
shock front) bends the light to some degree.

[crawdad62]

I can even provide a solution on how to
fix it, if necessary.

If you couldn't I'd be disappointed. You're the ProblemSolver after all.

Oh and I'm curious. Do you search the term zone all the time? It's amazing whenever I see a thread that mentions the Zone portion of WipeoutHD you're name shows up right in the next post. It's like you're Batman!

[ProblemSolver]

... Oh and I'm curious. Do you search the term zone all the time?

I never search. It attracts me by nature.

It's amazing whenever I see a thread that mentions the Zone portion of WipeoutHD you're name shows up right in the next post. It's like you're Batman!

o'rly? xD

Man, you can't imagine how I luv dat mode.

[Darkdrium777]

I've filmed the video, uploading right now I'll send it in about 15-30 minutes hopefully if everything goes right.

[djKyoto]

djKyoto, you use the stick and L2R2 air brake controls don't you?

One controller yes, one half WP-induced-broken controller, no.

[HISHO[JP]]

1.40 update is not available in Japan yet.

JP users report freezes in online (maybe between 1.40 players).

Please release the update for JP quickly!

[JABBERJAW]

Hisho, you don't want it.

Played last night. The inputs I was putting in were registering about one seoond or sometimes more too late, making the game feel like auto assist was going on. This was the worst night of HD yet gameplay wise. All the usual stuff was in there like br's not working. ship getting jammed around while other ships go straight as an arrow. It gets so bad, I started playing even worse. Noticed yesterday one mine bringing me to a dead stop. ONE. super weapon here. Have to play completely diffferent from offline on turns due to input lap, jamming brake to get that ****ing sideshift to work in advance, BUT THEN HERE IS THE CATCH, sometimes it works on time, and just turn straight into the wall on a ****ing straightaway since I was trying to anticipate the lag. What a bundle of joy. Played some one on one with travis later, and that was better control wise, of course barring the BRs working 20% of the time, at least I could steer.

COMPLAINING about complainers: There is a reason people are really ****ing pissed here. It may not be happening on some peoples games, but rest assuredly, it is definitely happening on mine, and Ih8you's, ag wolf, and others. The reason for the extreme complaining, IS we are sitting down at night to have a fun time with a game, a game that we all "LOVED" to play. Maybe we are coming home from work and have been looking foward to just sitting, relaxing, and playing a little wipeout, or maybe our kids just went to bed, and we finally have a chance to play after a few nights of not getting a chance to play. Whatever the reason, we are sitting down to have a good time with our favorite series. At this point, the way to play is HD, since everyone is playing that version. We remember when the game first came out, and while the game had a few bugs, there were very few if any major problems. I could go straight to a Multi race (even with 8 players) and get a good race right off the bat, or at least the controls were doing what I asked them to do, so if I lost, it was my fault, or weapons. NOT some randon not working bug that seems to be at every other turn. We keep playing, in hopes that the next game will be better, and we will race better, but we know deep down that is not going to happen, but we try anyway, only to get worse and worse due to the frustration. /the only hope now when it is playing like this, is to get into first place and have noone else on you screen, and then sometimes it plays ok, or play one on one (although this still doesn't play as good as even 8 players used to). wE HOPE every time we turn on that system that it will be back to the good "old days" before 1.30.

I AM BEGGING FOR SL TO PUT THIS BACK HOW IT WAS at the very least give a link option so we can play in 1.26 mode.

So the rant is over. Before you complain about complainers, realize what they just went through online, and that they just got done being incredibly frustrated, add to that their memory of what the game used to be, and that is why we are so angry.


WHO IS RESPONSIBLE:

1) everyone I believe

2) complaints about how BRs only worked 90% of the time ( I am included in this)

3) compaints about pilot assist and wanting an option: we got it: expense? But it also should have not been in there, but I'll take it back in a heartbeat if the bugs were gone

4) spectator mode: strictly sony, they must know this is causing problems, but refuse to take it out until it is fixed

5) Sony's silence on all matters wipeout: Yes, they frequent this site, once a week Keep people updated. Other game companies do that. These people love your games, and after pulse with the lack of communication, people do not believe things are being fixed, and rightfully so. At the very least acknowledge that something added is causing major problems in the game before you start losing people, and that you are working on it. I understand getting a good "**** you" for people wanting wanting wanting. EXP: faster speed class, no auto assist, ect. Actually I don't understand that, but to my point. When people give you feedback that says the game if playing absolutely ****ing horrible when it used to play great, acknowedge them or expect more of the same from far more people.

LAST NOTE: Why can't the game be put back to 1.26 until the bugs are worked out? If the reason is they cannot be worked out, then just give us the old game. I'd rather have what was, than 100 new tracks the way it is now.

[AG-wolf]

Well put Al; shame other people can't understand why someone would be quite so bothered by the stuff that's been going on with the game lately. WOHD is about one of the only games I play anymore and I've barely really touched it since the 1.30 update :/

Too bad SL doesn't have the same kind of rapport with their fans/audience as Working Designs did with their own fans back in the day.

[TheFrostE]

ya Al, good races last night....minus all the ****. i still dont understand how i was blowing by you on the grid with feisar and you were AG.....online i get burned up at the grid when theres more than 2 people. oh well...i hope they get this **** straight as well.

i dont think i ever complained about anything other than new tracks back in 1.26, i dont een think any one had mentioned a lvling system on these forums (i think it was implemented to bring some community to the game). and the only people it did bring back to the game were a bunch of stat whoring tards who only played the game a ton recently to have some sort of recognition to be high up in the online ranking...which means nothing in terms of your skill in reality, no offense to the people who are up there.

[SaturnReturn]

I think there were a couple of suggestions that an online ranking system would be a nice addition. I can see what they were hoping for, e.g. keep people interested longer. The system itself is a bit limited though, considering how quickly people have reached or almost reached level 50.

[Golgofier]

Yeah, I'd say the leveling system is pretty much pointless for the same reasons FrostE pointed out. I do like the badges though

[OBH]

I like the badges, i just think a few are broken.

Been awarded "successful pacifist" a few times after killing 2 players, cannoner / missiler when i didnt once get either, plus a few others.

Still like them though though i wish it was like old skool goldeneye where players can get multiple awards.

For me personally, in the next patch id love to see more stats (ie. who ive killed the most, and whos killed me the most), and an online permanent death option (plus maybe a re-done spectator mode, its SHOCKING )

[djKyoto]

A ladder ranking system would have been way better, instead of this 'whos played the most games online' ranking. I 'd be playing more if this was the case, but I really just see no point/can't be f**ked in getting to level 50.