Jay's Speed Mod

[Frances_Penfold]

Sorry Jabberjaw, I intend no offense Some folks like yourself, and Asayyeah, and Mad-Ice, and Flashback, and Kandang have put lots of effort into time trialing, and it shows in your records.

But as a community, Wipeout records are pretty weak. I include myself in that statement!

Ok, let's look at Wipeout 3 PAL-- for Porta Kora, there are ~50 participants, with the top 10 participants having a 2.0 second spread for Phantom.

Here's the reference:
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/records.p...ds&sub_action=

Now let's compare to Mario Kart 64, let's consider Koopa Troopa Beach lap times-- there are >600 entries, and the top 10 racers are separated by just 2/10ths of a second.

Here's the reference:
http://www.mariokart64.com/test/tp2.cgi?9

MK64 is an older game, what about a more recent title like Mario Kart DS? Let's consider Cheep Cheep Beach lap times-- there are 677 entries, and the top 10 racers are again separated by 2/10ths of a second.

Here's the reference:
http://www.mariokart64.com/mkds/coursep.php?cid=5

F-zero games tend to have complex ladder systems that are harder to interpret-- still, there is clearly lots of competition for most of the games... F-zero X has >200 participants in the ladder with very small times separating players.

Here's a reference:
http://www.mrfixitonline.com/f0/view...&cup=1&key=lap

For sure, some Mario Kart and F-zero games have rubber-band AI, and of course Mario Kart has item handouts that favor lower ranked players. But nobody does multiplayer for competition-- everything is done with time trials where the only items are shrooms. Moreover, there are different leagues to support different styles of play (snaking, non-snaking, space-flight, PRB, NBT, short-cuts, etc.)

The level of skill shown by MK and F-zero players is crazy-- like you and Asayyeah and other top players, but there are many more participants that push each other to get amazing times.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ypYC7SRuvAc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kuWfTH6DPxE
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_yEhEaUHDag

So yeah, I think there is a weaker tradition of time trials OVERALL for Wipeout than many other racing games-- not that we don't have some really amazing pilots but you guys are few and far between!

I'd like to see more ongoing competition in time trials because it makes the playing Wipeout more fun and more interesting. I will never be a top player (not good enough) but I enjoy fighting my way up the tables, exchanging tips with other pilots and having friendly competition. So I cringe to see people deleting their times from our tables (which was the context in which I made the "****" comment, which was clearly an overstatement!)