Extreme Pilot
Oops, sorryNew video: http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video...p_c_videogames
You see the split menu screen, as described before, where you can choose between HD and FURY. The menu has pulse-like hexagons again. There are also some of the crafts shown. Tracks driven: Talon's Junction Forward and The Amphisium Zone. Language is french.
Last edited by AmigoJack; 11th June 2009 at 01:51 PM. Reason: Video already posted
Zone Pilot
That was one of the first video's posted, albeit with a different link
Rapier Pilot
lol, hitting wall on zone 2 on a so wide/smooth curves track!Originally Posted by leungbok
here's the "gameplay 1" (classical zone mode on a new track)
http://www.viddler.com/explore/PSUniverse/videos/376/
definetly, skilled players @ E3 were missing...
and for a zone track, it would be better to see it at higher speeds!
Extreme Pilot
I really don't get why there isn't any thoroughly coverage of WipEout HD
Fury from E3. It's beyond me! At my native community consolewars.de
(biggest german console community) there is currently no real anticipation
of Fury. wtf?
@SL: We need Videos of all the new crafts / modes / tracks and how
everything blends perfectly together. Please pump out some 720p or
even 1080p video at 60Hz. gamersyde.com will host whatever you have!
Look how WipEout HD was supported on gamersyde.com a year ago;
http://www.gamersyde.com/game_1323_en.html
Rapier Pilot
Agreed with PS. Videos of the "official" variety are definitely needed. From start to finish too, not just snippets of one then the other.
Extreme Pilot
Uhm... don't get me wrong, but Fury is only an expansion pack. Those weren't advertized for Pulse either (albeit Fury is quite bigger). So even if there would be lots of press campaigns and material - new people cannot get their hands on Fury without buying HD first.
Would make much more sense if it was a completely separated game (like W3SE was). If it comes out, there will be also material on the official sites I guess
Content Contributor
Just like they updated Wipeout-Game and Wipeout-Pulse for the packs that are available in the US, right?
... wait.
They probably won't update the websiteI wouldn't count on it anyways.
Extreme Pilot
You might be proven wrong here. Just take this note over here.
Let me quote myself;
which leads me to an interesting consideration. Some of you have asked
how the leaderboard of HD will match up with Fury. Let's consider an
example. Guess they have removed the ability of doing s-b-s playing with
Fury, then almost all SL Top10 records would be unbeatable once and for
all. Right? But what if we have two separated leaderboards, one for HD
and one for Fury? I get the feeling that upon selecting Fury from the
initial title screen all your new records will register on another global
leaderboard, a Fury global leaderboard! If you look at it, this is a method
to get rid of some issues with HD. Point is, you can't reset the leaderboard
of HD anymore, because too many ppl have spent a lot of effort into it. If
true, then HD is going to freeze the way it is once and for all (some minor
bug fixes now and then). Hence, if you wanna beat an old HD record, or if
you simply wanna play under the old rules, then you start up WipEout HD
from the initial start screen instead of Fury.
Pure speculations! What do you think?
Rapier Pilot
That would make the most sense to me at least. It would solve the "possible" extra stats problem in regards to the ship's performance.
I'm not so keen on possibly having to choose between two seperate entities in one game though. I think the transition should be smooth and flawless. What I mean is, the game should load up as normal with either the look of the "old" HD, or the new Fury menu, depending on what you chose in the options screen. The Fury campaign would only be an extension of the old one, with events after the Meltdown grid in Campaign mode. The ships could be used in ANY Racebox event you chose, with the limitation being in Campaign for Fury.(i.e. Old ships can be used for every event, and Fury ships only in Fury) But, even then, one could argue that letting people use Fury ships in the regular campaign would make sense, in that they would keep playing.
Dunno, just my $0.02
Vector Pilot
After watching the "gameplay 2" vid', I'd assume that players will have the choice between the HD and the Fury campaign, and that the new game modes will be available through the existing racebox menu.
With regards to the tweaked stats, I'm still unsure whether they were actually tweaked or improved (my impression si that they were improved, lookin at the vid), which makes quite a difference. In case they were improved, this might be the option SL chose instead of offering a new, faster speed class... I'm only assuming!
Zone Pilot
Problem Solver, that speculation of yours in post 369 about how seperate leaderboards could work with Fury and new ships makes a lot of sense. It could be a way to get rid of glitches, bugs and have the benefits of a scoreboard reset, but without killing everyone`s old times and hard work. I would like to see that happen, and floated the idea somewhere, but I don`t think it will happen. I would love to be wrong though.
Extreme Pilot
@lunar: Additionally, a clean leaderboard would emphasis the competition for
quite awhile, esp. for those new to WipEout. However, I wouldn't prefere to
see Fury separated from HD. SL should clean up the leaderboards from all the
glitched records and tightly integrate the new crafts into the game. Imagine
there will be another DLC one year later. We would face the same problem.
Phantom Pilot
As far as I can tell I think they have it set up where if you choose Fury, it is basically the entire WOHD game(With the exception of campaign) with Fury content thrown over top. Hopefully they will both clean up the leaderboards and intergrate the new crafts as well. Perhaps a special denotation for time set while using Fury, like say for example:
Sol 2, Phantom
IDReaper Goteki45 "Fury" 1:49.89
Would something like this work?
Zone Pilot
Maybe there`s an issue of whether the glitched records can actually be cleaned up in HD or whether it would be too hard work to do it case by case. There are a lot now. So a kind of leaderboard reset in Fury and seperate Fury leaderboards would be the best way possibly. Also it might not all happen again in the future if the bugs that caused the HD glitches were identified and squashed in Fury. We`ve surely dug out any glitches in HD by now. Anyway I`m speculating madly here
Rapier Pilot
Like I said before, it would make the most sense to me(seperate bouards that is) as it would start from a clean slate. As far as fixing current records, I wish they would. I can't imagine it being terribly hard at all, i mean look at what they've accomplished within 9 months. Although, and I'm no expert, wouldn't the possibility of having to shut down the online servers temporarily be very difficult to pull off. I mean, the possibility of SL actually having the servers in Liverpool, right next to them, might not be a reality. London HQ for SCEE might not be down with turning them off for a few hours, and the process may be too time intensive to be realized.
maybe someone at SL could enlighten us as to the status of record table fixes? Even if the answer is no.
Extreme Pilot
@IDReaper: Yeah it's possible. The new ships can share a common
ID tag, such that we can have the old records (minus the glitches)
and the new records within one table.
@lunar: true dat is
My problem is that it would be too easy for SL to start anew. I don't
want to see that they drop HD (with respect to Fury) with all its glitches,
leaderboards issues, or whatsoever and move on to the next iteration
without doing anything for all those who have spent a lot of time into HD.
@Avenger2197: Yeah right! I never get why they can't removed all the
*obvious* glitched records from all the leaderboards. Most of them are
obvious and also well known. What's the problem?
Last edited by ProblemSolver; 16th June 2009 at 08:04 PM.
Rapier Pilot
Woah. hey! I'm not disagreeing with you Problemsolver, not AT ALL. If I had the option for "clean" boards, or "dirty" ones, I'd choose clean all the way.
Maybe SL could hire a "Time-Cop" like our very own Tomahawk. (would be kind of funny if it was Zico, don't you think?) I'd love to see the boards as they were before 1.30, so people who deserved the top slots had them. No question about that.
I'll reiterate my previous statement: I can't imagine a Leaderboard clean-up to be all that hard to do. It would basically be bug fixing in a sense anyway. Everyone would be happier that way. Sl would be happy for all those playing, everybody who plays could rest easy knowing that glitched times couldn't enter the rankings, and the game lives on the way it was supposed to.
Venom Pilot
Doing a clean swipe of the leaderboard is NOT the way to go. Some people have put alot of work down to get thoose records and I don't think it would be fair for them to have to start all over again.
I can see the frustration with the scores that shouldn't be on the boards, but there has to be some kind of way to remove the glitched scores or the scores that was earned in a dishonest way (by using glitches in the game) instead of wiping the whole database? I mean c'mon, does SL Studio have to reset the scoreboard every time a glitched\bugged record shows up?
The first thing they need to do is make sure no one are able to use glitches in the game. Only after then can they start doing something about the scores.
Any official response to this issue would be greatly appretiated as this is causing a great deal of frustration for alot of us.
Content Contributor
It's kind of sad that every single race but two at Phantom speed have glitched times in at least half of the first page, and in some cases up to three pages.
Venom Pilot
I'm all very new to this but I'm a former trackmania united player and there were glitched times too, and they were able to clean the boards. With trackmania it was easy to see them as you had a ghost. So does WOHD so I think it won't be too much of a hard work to clean the board by looking at the ghosts if they're submitted along with the times.
Implement a validation system with that shouldn't be complicated then WDYT?
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