That happened to me too for the first time just the other day.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMannevond
The fan suddenly went into overdrive, I've never heard that sound before from my PS3. Everything was back to normal after a restart though.
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That happened to me too for the first time just the other day.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMannevond
The fan suddenly went into overdrive, I've never heard that sound before from my PS3. Everything was back to normal after a restart though.
I didn't see any big change, apart from the 5.1 testing sound. Nothing more.
Anyway i don't have a 3DTV, only HD so of course the game will not show me the 3D options.
Well I have finally seen WipEout HD in 3D, a small glimpse of it at least, at a Sony store. It was in video though so of course they "bullshoted" it and made the video 1080p... But it was still really impressive!
There was the game on the console too, but they would not let you play. :( So I cannot judge on what it actually looks like in-game engine.
I'll see if I can play in another store maybe. I would really like that.
All I can say is Sony's 3D works really well, but a big TV is preferred I think as it will be this much more immersive.
I got to try WipEout HD in 3D at E3 today and it was really crazy.
I'm not a 3D fan, but playing some games in 3D was pretty enjoyable. I got to play with WipEout HD and Gran Turismo 5 in the format and they were decent games, but for different reasons.
I had been waiting to try out Gran Turismo 5 for a while and I managed to do that in 3D, but it wasn't as great to me. Maybe the reason I liked WOHD in 3D and not GT5 was because the combat aspect of WipEout made it seem more legit to use for 3D (seeing the smoke trail after shooting rockets, the futuristic HUD style, the crosshair). In GT5 it was just simple racing with tickers on top and not wanting to hit the other vehicles.
If you guys have any questions I may be able to answer them. :)
[I do have pictures, but my card reader suddenly broke and I don't have a computer nearby that does. When I return home, I will be sure to link you with them, if you want.]
Do you think the graphics/framerate hit is too big for someone used to playing it on a 1080p TV @ 60fps?
Being someone who is very picky about frame rate and the sorts, I really didn't care at all about how smooth the game played when I tried it out. Anyone who has played split-screen multiplayer on WOHD would notice a frame rate drop; playing WipEout HD in 3D in terms of how smooth it plays can be compared to split-screen racing. As for the graphics, they looked the same 1080p quality (but there was a lot of lighting at the booths, so the screen looked dim).
That's absolutely not good :frown::frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elk
I can't play split screen because it's really weird to see wohd so "unsmooth"!
Whenever you guys get to try it in 3D remember to turn off the HUD effect.
That sudden blurring/zooming of the sides of the screen if it's turned on really does your head/eyes in.:dizzy , it's far better turned off when in 3D mode.
And have a paper bag close by if you try doing the boost/BR shortcut on Ubermall in cockpit view, it can be a real stomach churner :paperbag
Well at first I wasn't really excited or cared for this to happen, but now that it has... I have to say, I AM excited!!! :D
so...i took a trip down to the local sony centre earlier today just to experience the sheer beauty that is WOHD in 3D and my gosh it's simply divine!
i've not seen 3D in the flesh before, not even bothered with any of the modern films in 3D as yet, but it's very impressive technology.
the depth of field and sense of immersion and speed is unparalleled, wipeout was made for 3D (or 3D was made for wipeout). watched a few trailers for other games / films but wipeout (for me) was definately the stand-out moment / use of the tech.
i'll be investing in 3D TV it won't be until price points get a little more mainstream but seriously recommend a viewing in person.
Interesting 3d performance article, including wipeout HD.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/pl...article?page=2
It's interesting that Crysis 2 is only losing 1.5% of performance when going 3D!!
They create the 2nd image out of the first one.
Although I haven't seen this in action, it makes me wonder if Wipeout HD might suffer less of a frame rate drop, and subsequently play better, if outputted normally from the PS3 in 2D and had 3D emulation done by the TV's inbuilt 3D processing.
It might be worse?
I know the Toshiba TV's have a cell processor in their TV's to do this, I don't know about the Sony TV's, you would kind of want to think they did since it's the same chip as in the PS3.
Hopefully somebody will try this as a comparison at some stage and report their findings.
Supposedly that's more or less how Crysis 2 works, they only render 1 frame,
so it's not true stereoscopic, and then they interpolate the 2nd frame,
using depth values + sometimes projections are needed (more calculations),
but they don't cost so much overhead, so it's still a lot faster than rendering
twice!
It's obviously an approximation, but if the illusion works and is fast, then I take
it over a 100% stereoscopic solution, after all, all the best looking games are
based on illusion (2d trees etc).
Who here has the intention to buy a 3D TV set, or knows someone that already has a 3D TV set?
On another note, have noticed the 3D glasses for sale at JB, $130 each. Bugger that....Prob wait til 2015 at best to get a 3D TV.
I'm pondering getting one of these Toshibas with a Cell CPU. I need to check picture quality but I don't think there is anything to worry about - Toshiba is known for quality products.
I'm planning to buy a 3D tv by the end of summer (probably Samsung or Sony) to replace my old CRT tv set (i wouldn't have if i already had a hdtv)
I will only get a plasma 3DTV. When you go from the Sony and Samsung LCD demos and check out the Panny 3D it's a different experience. Even in the brightly lit store environments the 3D is just more visceral thanks to the infinitely faster response time.
Samsung plasma or Panasonic plasma for 3D for me, but I'll wait another year or two for them to perfect the technology. By 2012 it would appear that the Panasonic sets will have implemented all the Pioneer Kuro patents that they acquired and hopefully we'll see the infinite contrast concept and 0 MLL concepts finally be realized.
Anyone who owns a Pioneer Kuro knows what the score is. Pioneer's vision was always to have in a totally dark room an image that appears to float and the Kuros are stunning in a dark room, totally unparalleled. Kuro-performance on a 3D set? Yes, I'll fork out for a 65". Until then I'll keep flying on my 42" plazzy.
@dobyblue - Yes, I'll be waiting for a nice plasma 3DTV, as well. I won't be in the market for a while though, as I just picked up my Panny Viera TC-P50G10 plazzy a little over a year ago. I absolutely love it. Plasma is the way to go! :rock
I've seen a few demos of 3d movies on a LCD screen, and so far ... it sucks,
it looks less 3-dimensional than in 2D!!
Because I can easily see that there are several depth layers, like this character
is clearly in front of another one, however they both look completely flat,
like paper flat, while in the 2d version I see only 1 plane, so my brain imagines
it being 3d.
Also the flickering was pretty bad ... I hope it looks better on games, cause so
far I'm really not convinced at all, right now: 2d looks more 3-dimensional,
doesn't flicker, doesn't require glasses, and is cheaper!!
just ordered a 40 inch samsung for 859 from amazon and pair of glasses for 80, my parent are gonna kill me lol, cheers bank 4 credit card lol, get it tommorow by 1pm ill let ya know wat wipeouthd like, i tested it in the shop and kinda agree with you, but cloudy meatballs didnt look layered so i think for wipeout vid they just used 2d to 3d converstion, but heard the game is alot more 3d,
I got to play Killzone 3 and GT5 in 3D (and got a go on Move) a couple of weeks back at Sony's first Beta Rooms event. Unfortunately WipEout HD wasn't there though.
I thought GT5 was a bit underwhelming to be honest and the depth didn't help me judge corners any better. I thought it made more of a difference on Killzone 3 where it definitely made it easier to judge the landing spots when you were leaping about with the jetpack. There's a lot more going on on screen too and the 3D did make it feel more immersive (I tried the same level in both 2D and 3D for comparison).
Neither convinced me that it's worth the expense of all the kit and having to wear a pair of goggles all the time though.
I just realized, that when you use the cross-eye method, you can really see the videos in 3D – sure, it's a bit tiring for the eyes, but you really get a pretty good impression of how it looks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Connavar
I like it! Though, WOHD seems a bit more flat im comparison to the other videos.
Is there a date for WO3D to be released? I imagine it won't be before the PS3 gets the 3D update of course.
It should be available by now. If i remember correctly, it was at the same time the firmware with this function was released.
Wipeout HD & Super Stardust both got the 3D game update back in June, as long as you have a PS3 and a 3D capable TV you can play both without additional cost.
But you lose 30 frames doing it.
I played WipEout HD in 3D for the first time today playing on a Samsung 3D LE40C750R2, and my first impressions were a bit mixed. The 3D does work, but doesn't give as good an effect as other 3D things that I've seen such as Super Stardust. Whilst playing HD it was difficult to focus on anything, especially when on the higher speed classes. Image separation and tear was also an issue, which retracted from the experience.
When the 3D effect does work you can really get a sense of depth, such as the cube thing on the Amphiseum or when another ship is directly ahead, but most of the time it makes it difficult to concentrate. However these are only my first impressions, I'll mess around with the settings to see if I can change the amount of image separation etc., but sadly the thing that really stops the true experience is the lower framerate. Super Stardust HD is incredible in 3D at 60fps, it's a shame WipEout can't achieve this apart from using the 3D 'upscaler' which doesn't deliver the same quality of depth as dedicated 3D.
Ive been trying to play in 3d for 2 weeks now. Ive had mixed feelings myself and the tearing at the top of screen is annoying but im use to that now so doesnt put me off.
My problem is that the handling feels diffrent and that it looks like they not quality assured it tbf. If you have to respawn it leaves you hanging for an eternity. Means game over online.
Hitting some walls by accident which normally would slow your ship down to a still rather than 3d it often makes your craft just stick on the spot for respawn time.
However ive noticed brs can be even easier for example vineta k venom double br out of tunnel is as easy as in rapier 2d.
3d Phantom i dont think ill ever get use to but its usefull in slower classes. Detonator mode is awesome too and zone is scary ive only managed zone 4oish at best in 3d.
Amorbis pain has some 3d games oh and google youtube 3d :)
If your have 3D depth perception issues with wipeout not looking it's best I suspect it might be because you might have too much ambient light in the room, unfortunately to get 3D to appear at it's best you need to have the room pretty dark, luckily not as much as you would if playing through a projector.
I'm not sure when work on HD 3D stopped before the SL redundancies earlier in the year, but as HD 3D was first shown at E3 2years ago it might be showing it's 1st generation 3D game heritage compared to some of the newer games that are starting to appear.
Apparently there is a 3D game montage at the US Playstation store that you can download.
One of my friends bought a new Sony HX9000 3D TV [outrageous price Sony Aus$4500 for a 42" :eek] and has also hooked up his PC to it.
He said that Left 4 Dead, Portal & Alien swarm all look amazing if played this way.
He posted this at another forum if you have to equipment and want to try it.
QUOTE:
All you need is a driver to add the 2nd perspective, I'm using the iz3D driver from www.iz3D.com.
nvidea 3d drivers are supposed to work better but only work on GeForce graphics cards. (I have a radeon hd 5770)
It works for heaps of games, no patch or native 3d needed, a list of tested gamesin the link below
http://www.iz3d.com/compatible
hi blackwiggle yeah i forgot to mention ive tried iZD and ddd on my pc, the 3d effect in l4d ect is really good and u can control 3d effect better, have more variables to tweak to your eye focus. unfortunately i now realize i need a better pc as i just about get 30 on l4d,
im waiting on this nvidia 3dtv play see if it runs better first.
I changed some of the TV's settings and some of the in-game settings on WipEout HD which made the effect work a bit better. I put the depth on 25% instead of the 100% which I had yesterday, which meant that there was no visible separation and there was a nice sense of depth on the buildings and the ships.
I also got the 3D E3 trailer which was OK, but I wasn't able to get much of an effect from the low frames. Motorstorm's 3D demo was a bit like WipEout to begin with and required toning the 3D effect down to around 25%, which gave a really good mud and dirt effect when it went into the screen.
Ok, So i got my new 3D Plasma TV yesterday and obviously, the first thing I tried was WipEout.
For the record, the TV is a SAMSUNG PS50C7700 (50" plasma) and my glasses are SSG2200AR.
Ok, I start the game and a question appear "would you like to activate 3D effect" (my translation from french version). Already! OK ...
The Fury / SL cinematic starts but I don't know if the glasses aren't ready yet or if the ships coming toward us too fast, but it wasn't very smooth.
Forget it, what about the game itself ... not yet !
Then comes the menus. The animation in background is in 3D (the menu itself is flat but seems closer that the background). 1st impression is good.
I'm going for the racebox without tuning the options, track selection is impressive with the track also rotating in 3D.
I didn't pay much attention to the ship selection (too impatient to play) but ships are also in 3D.
Then the race is about to start, the camera is giving a shot of the grid and ... WOUAW !!!
It's been 3 months (or so) I haven't started WipEout, but this is definitely different!
Then the race starts and you really feel the difference! Nothing comes off the screen, this more a depth perception. It feels both natural and strange. It took me 2 race to get the hang of it but, from then I'm sure It will be difficult to play that game without 3D.
I wonder if that's because I haven't played for 3 months, but the framerate didn't bother me so much.
Also, I didn't experience the "flat layer effect" someone write about, except for the smoke of explosion.
Finally, I returned to the options, where you can tweak the 3D effect (initially set to 0%). I put it to 100% but despite the fact I didn't see anything really different (still not coming out of the screen nor did it seem to have any more depth) I wasn't at easy while playing.
I put the settings back to 40% (cannot do this during a race though) and it was better.
I'm sleep depraved today, but it worth it.
I also tried the 2D->3D conversion offered by my TV, not on wipeout though (no reason), but on a anime movie (Evangelion 1.11 blue-ray). I'm impressed how well it works for a 2D source (you clearly see the depth difference beetween background and foreground) but you have clearly the feeling you're watching multiple layers of 2D images.
Next try for that functionality will be Formula One Championship (2007) or maybe the Korean Formula1 Grand Prix this week end.
I've had to stop playing wipeout for 2 months and found the framerate difference coming back absolutely fine.
I was constantly complaining about the controls feeling sketchy but I don't notice now. Just managed to get zone 34 on chengou which is all I ever managed in 2d.
Crossfade issues go after half hr warmup and I play in 70 to 100 3d strength depending on how tired I am. :)