Fake id's (sub acounts)

[Aeroracer]

basically being an xbox player where i have to pay to go online.I have noticed on ps3 that there appears to be a major issue with numerous fake id's, sub accounts second accounts call them what you may..

I am wondering what others players think about these....

ive tried to think why these players have to do this..

these are a few reason i can think of

perhaps they are so popular they sometimes want to be quiet and use a secret id so no one bothers them...

perhaps they lost there account details cos of a hardware/sofeware/forgot issue

perhaps there at a friends house and cant remeber there psn

maybe they just like to go and do transendance again

these perhaps explain maybe 10% of the numerous fake accounts I see on ps3 and these are on xbox too and its understandable but what about the other millions of sub accounts soley on ps3...and im just talking about wipeout hd not any other game..



but on ps3 talking only about wipeout it seems 50% of the accounts are not the players primary accounts..As foxy said it is not hard to work this out when you look at there info....

[Darkdrium777]

The only outcome of using multiple accounts is spamming the leaderboards with your multiple records under each name.
Whether doing that is voluntary for you or not, I consider it to be a nuisance and as such am against the use of secondary accounts.
Unless it's to prove a point (Sankukay, SOL_2_IS_GLITCHED and others like that.)
But if you are just spamming to spam, you are a spammer.
My opinion.

Oh, this statement applies only to those who haven't lost any account data or anything, but willingly create multiple accounts to play WipEout HD.

[JABBERJAW]

possibly to play a game when you are not good at it yet, then go to your main account for your "real competition". I only have one though I have used my nephews because it was easier at the time before since I was on his ps3

[Aeroracer]

i understand some players have legitimate reasons to have to create a sub account..

spamming the leaderboards is one of them

i like to know who i am playing obviously i do not know all wipeout payers but i do know many players..

[KIGO1987]

Fake id's are bad. They have more negative aspects associated with them than positive ones.

Unless it's to prove a point (Sankukay, SOL_2_IS_GLITCHED and others like that.)

Pirhapac.

[blackwiggle]

Yeah, but to his credit Pirhapac only created the second account only to draw attention to the fact that Arktuif had used glitches to get those SL times.
One wasn't prepared to own up, so the other made it obvious.

Which makes perfect sense on this occasion.

Why would you spend many hundred of hours getting legitimate top times with your real PSN ID, only to ruin it with a glitch time that you did just to show somebody up?
You wouldn't, you'd make a second ID solely for that purpose.

[KIGO1987]

Bit more than just one person out there doing dodgy times on the record tables.

[Darkdrium777]

Pirhapac.

Yes, and he's probably not done using them. It depends on what happens next.
Unfortunately some players who are very good at the game do stupid things just to appear on top... He shows that others know they did stupid things.

[KIGO1987]

Still doesnt give you the right to corrupt the race times on the world records tables.

The only legit times now days are on here on the wipeoutzone forum. Its happened with Wipeout Pulse with the Jaytech and CFW users, and now its happening again with Wipeout HD. Congratulations to those who go out of there way to stuff the records up for there celebrity status.

[Darkdrium777]

You should talk to those who first started it. They are the malicious ones.
The intent of this demonstration by pirhapac is to show to everyone that they are this malicious. It's not his fault, but unfortunately if he was not doing it I would have. Because the people who are breaking the leaderboards not only cheat on one account, but on many. With pirhapac's demonstration, they have stopped thankfully.
Connavar's ranking site is exempt of these problems because it does not auto-update, which is a blessing given how many "stupid things" you can do in the game.

[KIGO1987]

Pirhapac's method is in the exact same manner as what AkFurtif (so i was told from other French individuals) did, using Fake id's (sub accounts) to corrupt the leaderboards, doesnt matter what the primary cause or the final goal is, its still the same thing, that is corrupting the leaderboards for everyone else, and deterring away newbies into the game.

Pirhapac's behavior doesnt stop other people from using Fake id's (sub accounts) to corrupt the leaderboards, however more endorsing this kinda behavior for attention seeking and instead causing more controversy and ruining the game for the greater majority of players in the community.

[Mr Phlanj]

FINE!!! I'll stop using my Yeldar account and go back to Mr Phlanj

seriously tho i could understand if people want to have a other accounts because most people who i try to add have max anount of friends (mosnt of them WOZoners), so it can be understandable if they want more friends or if they wanty diffrent names for diffrent games, so i think its all situational to the person.

Me, i have ploppy1988 because for resons unknown i couldnt add funds to my wallet as Mr Phlanj.


Edit: i think i have made that yeldar joke before.....

[KIGO1987]

seriously tho i could understand if people want to have a other accounts because most people who i try to add have max anount of friends (mosnt of them WOZoners), so it can be understandable if they want more friends or if they wanty diffrent names for diffrent games, so i think its all situational to the person.

Once apon a time that is what people did use to do here, create a second account with the similar naming to there existing one, for example, "angryhabib", "kanar_is_back", "kigoangelusracer", not being anonymous, to extend there psn friends list beyond the 100people user list that every one account is limited to. This also happened around the same time the SL server bug was out.

[leungbok]

Still doesnt give you the right to corrupt the race times on the world records tables

The records table was already corrupted !! When he saw other guys (on sol2 like w5lx, philippe1970...) using glitches he decided to create an obvious glitch account to tell them : "hey glitchers, no way that you can be on top that easily, i know your little secret !"
He waited a long time before using his 2nd account for that purpose, hoping that only one or two guys will know and use the glitch... but unfortunately...
And i disagree Kigo, now that there's no possibility of a rank one on some tracks, there's no more glitchers appearing.
i'll be a little off topic, now, but i just want to remind everybody here that Pirahpac discovered (and shared) almost every tricks and technics that helps anyone to be fast on wipeoutHD, he deserves more respect than that, IMO !
About ruining the game for the whole community, i still see some hardcore fans trying to improve their times (SL/TT challenge of Dark_phantom89 contributes ), even on the known glitched tracks
Some guy : Kieran-in-july polluted the multiplayer table during avalon ! Do you know his primary account ?

[KIGO1987]

So because the tables are already corrupted leungbok you endorse the behavior of corrupting the leaderboards some more? Or you just defending a fellow Frenchman? Its like Global warming, oh half the ozone layer is already gone its 2010, doesnt matter lets stuff it up some more since it is already partially stuffed up already.

Doesnt take blind Fredy to figure out who KieraninJuly was leungbok, was me using another PS3 to join the last avalon session, i did mention that in the Avalon Lounge multiple times, and KIGO1987 wasnt the primary account on that PS3 since it wasnt mine. Smartarse

[leungbok]

Bye from my friend lists !

[KIGO1987]

Fine with me mate

btw getting a bit off topic arent you.

[blackwiggle]

Well just to get back on topic before this thread explodes into a slanging match.

What if you got a PS3 when you were 12 and named your PSN ID "FluffyPuff01" for instance, now your "FuffyPuff01" PSN ID is well known on the Hanna Montana online records but it's been a few years now and your 15, and your gaming diet has gradually changed to Killzone or Medal of Honor etc.
You can't honestly start a FluffyPuff clan and nobody wants a SGT FluffyPuff in their platoon, it would just sound ridiculous over headsets in the heat of battle with things like, FluffyPuff take point or FluffyPuff take my rear.

Your going to want to change your 12 year old cutesy name to suit your new 15 year old [goth probably ] persona.
Thankfully it's easy with the PSN.
That's a bit of a warped "Out There" example, but you get the idea.

[KIGO1987]

With the amount of weird PSN ids out there. Most people CBB changing there first original account name, since they have grown up and gotten use to it over time.

Fluffypuff is a bit of a poncy psn name to have original for the person who made it

[blackwiggle]

I had just been sent a email with a photo of H.R.Puff N stuff in it and FluffyPuff was just a corruption of that image.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063907/