All racers have this feature !!Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
"The biggest wipeout we ever made !". Without racebox or custom controls it's only the best playable demo SL ever made !
Zone Pilot
All racers have this feature !!
"The biggest wipeout we ever made !". Without racebox or custom controls it's only the best playable demo SL ever made !
Last edited by leungbok; 22nd April 2012 at 01:45 PM.
Veteran Pilot
WipEout Fusion called itself the "biggest and boldest WipEout" ever, too. And, well, it did not feature custom controls either
Content Contributor
At least it had control options, and you could play someone on the track and speed you wanted
Zone Pilot
The funniest part is that it's possible to choose the track, speed class and even the number of laps on cross-play with wipeout HD which is only a vita possibilities demo !
Last edited by leungbok; 22nd April 2012 at 04:18 PM.
Content Contributor
I cannot believe we are getting screwed like this. They KNOW that we DO NOT like how online campaign is done. It is NOT FUN AT ALL. They know many many fans are incredibly pissed about simply not being able to choose a track and a speed. Yet basically saying " screw you" ( even nicely), you will play this crappy way, we don't care if you don't like it.
I sincerely hope this is addressed, sooner rather than later. It's the worst wipeout decision ever made to leave this out, and that's saying a lot with fusion in the equation?
At least give us an option in ADHOC!
Join the requests at the Facebook page, the more the better
Last edited by JABBERJAW; 22nd April 2012 at 07:26 PM.
Extreme Pilot
Tsss, they never answered me about my 4 losses of online campaign... but they replied to the message just after mine. They are unable to say "no", "no racebox in future", "no recovery of online campaign", "no no no" !
Vector Pilot
Multiplayer is not so bad actually. I quite enjoy it. I would prefer some form of custom options however for it.
Rapier Pilot
Sorry vdek, have to agree with the others, this is my favourite game but the online is a joke. I only give it a run every week or two when I crave some multiplayer and forget how bad the choices are.
Zone Pilot
Even if SL don't plan to include a racebox in an uncoming update or DLC, which is REALLY REALLY REAAAALLLY NOT SATISFYING...
...maybe they could still do a step to our concerns : If they can add in the offline campaign map, nodes for time trials and single races the way speed laps are already included (40 nodes for each mode), zone is less crucial when all the tracks can be played in the main campaign.
Also if it's possible to add possibility to disable the online campaign's objectives, and in that case to split the choice between two events : combat and single races. That way the vote will be done only on the track choice (in that case if a choice for speed class is also possible to add, that's great. And to make A+ available for multiplayer single races).
With those little changes (not sure but i imagine it's far less work than designing a full racebox mode) it could be possible to have some fun races with friends using the vit'as party app.
But again, it's REALLY REALLY REAAAALLLY NOT SATISFYING...
Last edited by leungbok; 23rd April 2012 at 05:30 PM.
Veteran Pilot
It`s amazing, we are still being ignored and yet, I rekon, they will lose more customers than they think.
Lets see about DLC coming! Cos, there is alot of potiental in there!
Honestly, I don`t know what to do.
Al, if you planning a request?, do it if you can and I will support it for you.
stevie
Vector Pilot
They're not "ignoring" you, the community reps on the facebook page just aren't allowed to talk about upcoming features just yet. They're actually quite responsive to anything you might ask them.
Zone Pilot
The strangest thing is: Sony says VITA means life and the most important feature of the VITA is to stay in touch with friends. There are a lot of features in 2048 that give you updates on what friends are doing and if they beat you and you can race their ghosts, if it's working. BUT to really get into contact with your friends by playing the game as it should be on A+ speed on the tracks you want and with the options to race with weapons on/off is not there?!
For over 5 years Al and I are organising real life tournaments of Wipeout. Every year there are people coming from all over the world to meet each other and play Wipeout together. That's what I call: getting in touch with friends!!! Now this year, I think I am not going to organise a real life Wipeout Tournament because we can not play 2048 how we want it! We need custom controls and racebox in every mode, no exception. We can play all other Wipeout titles how we want to, so please Studio Liverpool: make it so we can play 2048 on our next convention.
Peace out Mad-Ice
Veteran Pilot
Mad-ice, well said!
vdek, ok, we will find it out eventually!
stevie
Content Contributor
Don't they understand how psyched the 2048 ( not HD) community would be if they put it in. A lot of praise sells a lot of games, as opposed to a lot of criticism.
Vdek, they are not planning on doing racebox despite everyone being pissed to hell.
They are ignoring and not answering the entire pissed off wipeout community on their site. They won't answer on their page in public. I believe they are hoping it will blow over. I cannot for the life of me understand this lack of understanding the nonsense of no racebox
@ leungbok, I was thinking the same thing regarding the grids, just give us something!!!
Grid of 40 for TT, sr online on the map. (3,4,5,10 laps for row)
Grid of 40 for TT, sr offline on the map
Scroll through on Adhoc for track ( this cannot be difficult), choose speed.
( or grid of 40, but there is no map on Adhoc, just a track)
Certainly this would not be too difficult and would fit into the current game
If we do get this, this would be fun, however it would still suck compared to HD options. At this point I'll take anything that resembles a reasonable online experience, even if it means we loose every friggin mode that was in hd besides SR.
Last edited by JABBERJAW; 23rd April 2012 at 10:50 PM.
Venom Pilot
I'd prefer HD style Combat/Eliminator instead of Timed. It's my favorite mode and I play it every time I boot up Wipeout.... It's gonna lose all the fun.
Extreme Pilot
Just a remark.
Several people said they didn't have the time to implement online racebox.
How on earth is it faster to implement online campaign? Taking also into account they already did it a good online on Pulse and HD, so they wouldn't have started from scratch.
Since we'll never get racebox, the minimum acceptable would be for me :
Step 1. A new icon near the online campaign, let's call it "freeplay"
Step 2. Choose combat or race session damn it!!!!
Step 3. At least 2 sections : slow classes (C and B) and fast classes (A and A+). Choosing the class would be better but maybe this would be acceptable, even if not satisfying.
Then the vote between 2 tracks, with different number of laps, etc.
This would be a light modification compared to adding a racebox, keeping the vote implementation...
Content Contributor
@temet, I had sent them an email giving them options like this within the current system for Adhoc, online and single player. I also added that it wasn't even remotely as good as racebox, noting it only allowed single races, and that every other good option was out, but at least we could play each other.
You are right temet regarding racebox, it was taken OUT of the HD code that they used. It could have been left in. Same with custom conntrols. Full blame is on whoever made that decision.
Content Contributor
Two months later...
See you in a month.
Vector Pilot
I've been looking forward to this game for a long time and tempted to buy a vita. I have $350 cash set aside that I can spend at any instant to go pick up a vita and the game... yet this has just been sitting in the back of my drawer for a while now and after reading this thread it looks like I might as well put it back in the bank. I've been on the fence for a few months now, "should I really buy a vita just for WipEout? I did so for the PSP and Pulse... but the Vita is so expensive. Well if 2048 turns out to be great I'll buy the Vita just for WipEout."
Looks like that ship has sailed. Back to HD and Pulse. Have fun guys!
Vector Pilot
Not a fan of twitter (had to go and reset my password so I could log on =P), but anyway I 'tweeted' them a link to this thread. I know you guys have already done so but doesn't hurt to be persistent =/
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