Rapier Pilot
How good is the AG-Systems ship?
I've liked AG-Sys in Pure and 2097/XL, in the first WipEout is my favourite ship, and now the simpatic japanese team is my favourite in Pulse.
Nice top speed, excellent accelleration, perfect handling and good shield: perfect in every situation.
And in the faster classes the AG-Sys ship, with its strong accelleration, represents an authentic piece of art: from now, only AG-Systems and Auricom
Extreme Pilot
Well, I'd say it's great for everything except top speed. It's not a fast ship. But you'll find it's high thrust and handling gets it out of corners faster, which more than makes up for this. At Phantom class, I think the top speed is far less important than it is at Venom class, so AG-S really is a great ship (although it's too "twitchy" for me).
btw - EG-X is the best!
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Zone Pilot
AG-S and EG-X are the pack leaders in most cases...
but Arch has done some crazy crapola with the Assegai ship, just like Kigo in his Triakis at phantom speed class mate - it's crazy.
I guess, if you practice with any ship and stick with it long enough, it'll reward you back!
Extreme Pilot
Pulse is very balanced game. I noticed that EG-X is faster than AG on straights, but japanese wins on the turns
Rapier Pilot
MrSmadSmartAlex, at the first times EG-X....I don't liked it!Originally Posted by MrSmadSmartAlex
Well, I'd say it's great for everything except top speed. It's not a fast ship. But you'll find it's high thrust and handling gets it out of corners faster, which more than makes up for this. At Phantom class, I think the top speed is far less important than it is at Venom class, so AG-S really is a great ship (although it's too "twitchy" for me).
btw - EG-X is the best!
Probably for the low shield and for the way it looks but after a lot of gold medals in the time challenges of the campaign mode, EG-X is always my first choice in this type of event.
The best relationship between a great top speed and a strong accelleration, and it is very manovrable (but the stat points in the game are 7, this don't reflect the reality, but under this point AG-Sys is more better).
The shield it's the weak point of this ship, but for me this is not important beacuse I use it predominantly in the time trials.
Last edited by XpanDrome2097; 30th July 2009 at 10:16 PM.
Phantom Pilot
IMO, Goteki 45 is the best ship....
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Zone Pilot
Yes, ok Dr.Angryman - but what are your reasons for why you prefer G-45 over the other ships?
Venom Pilot
it's the best ship for an ANGRY ANGRY MAN of course
no wait, that's wip3out... over to you dr.angryman what's your propsygnosis
Extreme Pilot
I mostly play Pulse for lap time trials, and I do NOT have any of the DLC (so no Icarus or Mirage ships for me).
With that said, I don't find a single ship to be "the best" because it depends on the speed class and to a lesser extent on the track.
For Venom, Flash and Rapier speeds, I find that Piranha generally yields my best times-- the raw speed is worth the reduced cornering efficiency.
For Phantom speed, I generally use AGS-- the base speed so phantom is so high that ship handling and thrust are my main concerns.
I am starting to futz with Goteki 45 because I suspect that the very high thrust may, for a few cases, be worth reduced speed and handling. I suspect that Icaras would probably work better for me than Piranha but since I live in the U.S. and don't have access to DLC, I don't know.
I am super impressed with how balanced the different ships are in Pulse-- I suspect that most ships in the game could be used for competitive play. With that said, I still suspect that certain ships in certain situations will be truly superior. For example, at Venom and Flash speeds, I suspect that Pirhana and Icaras will always beat the slower ships.
Phantom Pilot
I'm taking back the things I said about the Qirex. It's not a bad ship, I just need to give it some love, like what I did to Pure. I first snubbed it, but now it's got more playtime than Pulse. It does look fantastic and all, and it's fairly nippy round corners.
However, IMO Goteki 45 has absolutley no redeeming qualities at all. I don't see the praise for the 10 for acceleration. The 7 for both handling and top speed render it useless, looking and flying like a barge. Son, I am dissapoint...
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Zone Pilot
No, the G~45 is awesome in Pulse! Top speed coulda been better, but the thrust more than compensates for that. You should see James_sp tear the track a new asshole in the Goteki... i've noticed that the Goteki seems to have "warmed up" in laps 4 and 5 when racing, and dominates in these final laps!
Extreme Pilot
It's not one of my favourites, I must admit, but it's still ok to use. That high thrust really does make a difference coming out of corners or anything else that slows you down. And that's before you even get online and get hit by weapons, or hit the walls.
I have been trying, but I still can't find a particularly weak ship in this game. For example, Triakis should be an overall slower version of the Piranha, just looking at the stats. But for me it seems a fair bit faster overall on certain tracks.
I don't think those 4 stats are all that separates the ships (e.g. I'm sure the ships have different weights). Maybe they just sum up a ship's general characteristics, so there's not a giant list of everything that makes the game's physics or whatever.
edit: EG-X is the best, though.
Last edited by MrSmadSmartAlex; 26th August 2009 at 04:52 PM.
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Extreme Pilot
Those are kind of hard words for that masterpiece of a ship. I was wondering, have you even tried the ship except looking at it's 7's? Stats are not really a full representation of ships abilities. That 7 on handling is not like 7 of EG.X. It's more kind of, like, an 8. Try it. Love it.
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Zone Pilot
The true test of a ships ability, lies in its' performance at Phantom + speeds...
i.e - Piranha is a beast, right up to Rapier, but a bit of a red herring at Phantom...
Now, I'm not saying not to use Piranha at Phantom. Do so by all means - but get shot at once, and you'll most likely end up playing 'catch up' for the rest of the race... dodgy chassis too - BR + Turn = Scrape Fest / Marrying walls lol
Extreme Pilot
No, the true test of a ships ability, is whether it's an EG-X or not.
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Zone Pilot
Oh no, not again lol!
Rapier Pilot
This was my first point of view about G-45 for the first time that I've used....but after the first time that I've tried in phantom, I've understanded the sense of G-45 in Pulse
Aaaaahh ACE has always the best answer for all!
Join the Gotekians team pilots, damn!
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Zone Pilot
Just joined it lol. Yes, I used to race in a G-45 for a bit (phantom ofcourse) but switched to AG-Sys when I got frustrated with its top speed stat. That thrust - can ensure that you leave the pack behind at the starting line. Which is cool. Its' handling stat is marked as a 7 but like Archie said - it's more like an 8, not dissimiliar to EGX's handling
The AG-Sys, is most definitely my ship of choice.
Joint 2nd has to go to Qirex and EG-X, followed by Goteki-45 and the Piranha. I do like my Piranha lol
Extreme Pilot
Why does nobody ever notice that the AG-Sys has a low top speed?
The Goteki will out-perform it in that sense, because it has the same top speed, but more thrust.
I always see people write that it's faster than Feisar too, which isn't correct. Feisar, AG-S and Goteki all have exactly the same top speed.
That said, the AG-S is a great all-round ship, with it's low top-speed as it's only weakness (not much of one either - each 1 speed stat = 3km/h, so Piranha is only 9km/h faster than Feisar!).
Extreme Pilot
Problem is that I'm so used to using my AG that I really suck (even more, yeah) with other ships.
Fore sure, EG-X is great
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