Xpand teams

[Lance]

Enjoy your dead account, Vartazian.

Kanar, be warned.

[Amorbis]

I'm posting to ask about a standardised disconnection procedure. Recently it has be a real pain when someone disconnects (I know it's not intentional) and the race has to be restarted regardless of the results. I find this to be unfair to those who did not get disconnected as much as for the person that did. Instead of restarting the race and disregarding the points that were earned, a new way of dealing with the situation is needed.

IDReaper had a good idea of using your best position from the two races. For example, if someone was to disconnect the race would continue and points be obtained. The race would then run again with the racer who disconnected and depending on the best position from the races the relevant points are awarded and the racer who disconnected receives whatever points that got in the race they participated in. This eliminates frustration for everyone and keeps things going.

Any other ways we could improve things?

[SaturnReturn]

Enjoy your dead franchise.

I joined it got to the top and now I dont care about it anymore

Since HD's launch the top has continuously been moving. No-one has truly reached it IMO and as long as true fans are devoted to it and keep supporting it and pushing the limits, no-one ever truly will. For those same reasons, the franchise will never be dead. Even if the industry doesn't keep it alive, which it still might, then we will.

EDIT: Also, I have a spare slot in my PSN friend list now for anyone who tried before but found it full.

[kaori]

I like the idea of IDReaper although it is not perfect... I have some twisted ideas in my mind

Perfection will be these disconnections dissapear !

PS : what were the results tonight between team Poland and BRB ?

[ACE-FLO]

Reserve for me please SR

IDReaper had a good idea of using your best position from the two races.~snip~

Can you give an example per say so I can understand it better? Sounds good to me, just that I don't understand what you mean "best postiion from the races" part kinda thing. Sorry for being a pain mate

[SaturnReturn]

I never really had a problem with disconnection restarts , as they always happened at the start of the race and were fairly rare in the World Cup matches. If everyone knows that a d/c causes a restart they know to stop immediately. As long as everyone knows where they stand it's usually OK. If it does happen frequently then I guess it would be very annoying.

Anything can happen in these races, and just because someone is in a good position, even on lap 5, it doesn't mean they'll finish that way. Having said that, it is more annoying to almost complete a race and for someone to d/c. Perhaps say, only restart if it's within the first 3 laps or something? You can also try to invite the racers in the order of their position when the d/c happened, so that the guy on front will probably be first on the grid if he's at the top of the lobby. Although the host usually starts first and order isn't always guaranteed, as people sometimes join and get slotted in the middle.

Perhaps you could also allow a maximum number of restarts per team, after which they lose some points for frequent disconnections. Or even number of restarts per player, before that player has to sit out. That way it could carry on with one team at a slight disadvantage with one less player, which may be a suitable compensation for the other team having to deal with the frustration of their opponents disconnects.

But anyway, just some ideas there.

[kaori]

If I understood, imagine that, you race :
1. Icaras
2. Harimau
3. Feisar
4. AG-Systems
5. Piranha
DSC. Goteki 45

So we restart the race and the new results are :
1. Feisar
2. Harimau
3. Goteki 45
4. Piranha
5. Icaras
6. AG-Systems

Feisar and Icaras score 8 points
Harimau : 6 points
Goteki 45 : 5 points
AG-Systems & Piranha : 4 points

You can also try to invite the racers in the order of their position when the d/c happened, so that the guy on front will probably be first on the grid if he's at the top of the lobby

Yes I always do that, but sometimes, a player takes too time to join and lose some place on the grid ! The more important is to be fair

[ACE-FLO]

Oh Kaori, thank you, that makes sense to me and I like it!

[Amorbis]

Koari presented the idea better, which does feel OK. I bring this up because of disconnections at the very end of the race where perhaps some people have already finished. At least with having two races where you keep your best points and the person that disconnected getting points everyone can be a bit happier.

[IDReaper]

Wow guys, I was just going to post here but I believe you've sorted things out for me, thanks guys . Kaori's explanation is exactly what I was thinking. Also the second half of today's tourney was postponed to the same time tomorrow I believe.

[Kyonshi]

The Storm is finally rising for good!

Here's the fresh, new members!

Rising Storm
- WhateverMannn (AUS)
- CoatlKetzal (MEX)
- KIGO1987 (AUS)

Still searching for more!

[phaeton_pl]

It seems to be a good idea to sort out the DC problem.

Can we apply it to yesterday's match?

I don't want anyone to be hit by a messy hosting When we had to restart last race i invited my team first... It wasn't intentional, i thought it gonna be random order on a grid... Sorry, that was a first time when i was hosting a tournament.

Great match BTW

[Dark_Phantom_89]

PS : what were the results tonight between team Poland and BRB ?

The second half of the match had to be postponed due to some members having to go. The current score is BRB's 103 Poland 129, however, if we didn't have to restart Moa Therma and Ubermall (where we got 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 8th,) it would be a different story...

[KGB]

This restarting races over and over is a pain. Personally I think that if you disconnect during a race the result should stand and then the member who left can rejoin after. This would take away all doubt that someone is doing it on purpose, which I think some of us believe could happen. As a general rule it doesn't happen much, It may happen less if this rule was included.

[kaori]

I haven't thought that

It seems to be a good idea to sort out the DC problem.

Can we apply it to yesterday's match?

I don't want anyone to be hit by a messy hosting When we had to restart last race i invited my team first... It wasn't intentional, i thought it gonna be random order on a grid... Sorry, that was a first time when i was hosting a tournament.

Great match BTW

No problem phaeton, we are in preseason, it's normal we are polishing details

Of course you can apply for yesterday if you have written all results.

[kanar]

Kanar, be warned.

Be assured I'm certainly not proud of what happened here. Just woke up with a good headache this morning. Wanted to apologise to Vartazian's friends here, seems like I forced the guy to the wall, which is not a smart move at all. Slowly but surely, my contribution here degraded itself. I've started a lot of banters recently, so I'm going to take my distances with this place, don't want to pollute all these threads with my incapacity to control myself. Seems like I forgot it's just a game we're playing.

[Dark_Phantom_89]

Well our result is a little controversial, so I included both. We still need to play the second half.

Results by restarting tracks:
Barrel Roll Barbarians: 103
Team Poland: 129

Results without restarting tracks (DNF gets 0 points - ACE-FLO and Klocki_LEGO disconnected)
Barrel Roll Barbarians: 114
Team Poland: 118

Either way, Team Poland is winning so far, but look at the difference in scores.

Also, with restarting tracks, Klocki_LEGO was the MVP, but without restarting tracks, it was me.

[KGB]

@Kaori.

I'm sure you haven't mate, But at the moment it's turning a one hour race into a two hour race, making everyone annoyed and hard to keep track of scores. If that idea doesn't fly then I would suggest awarding the DC player a set amount of points and move on to the next race. It totally destroys the game when we have to restart tracks.

[kaori]

An other idea can be a mix of your idea and IDReaper's one.

The player who disconnected rejoin in next race and his points in this race count twice...
But only in case of the pilot was in first half of ranking in the disturbed race.
If the disconnection hit a player who was in second half of standing, it's 0 point or the points of last place if there are 7 players or less in race. (because I don't want a guy who could just score 2 or 3 points in a race, and because he was disconnected, he can score a double eight in next race)

I took 114-118 for archives results and Klocki_LEGO & Dark_Phantom_89 like MVPs

[phaeton_pl]

This would take away all doubt that someone is doing it on purpose, which I think some of us believe could happen.

If someone think it was done on purpose please tell me.
I don't think BR Barbarians did, I would never thought they did.

We've joined "Xpand-friendly league" to compete in fair way so I hope rules will be sorted soon.


BTW: When player is disconnected during the race, he gets DNF and 8th place?


@ Dark Phantom

We can play whole thing once again if you feel it was unfair, just to keep it friendly

X-PAND FTW