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    Default STOP PRESS: Formula Fusion - Next gen Wipeout - from ex Wipeout Devs.

    Hi guys,

    I thought I would post details of our new project - FORMULA FUSION. It features music produced by DUB FX and other cool urban artists, together with all sorts of other juicy offerings.

    We have a few interesting spins on the core concept and we are pulling it back a little in terms of the Sci-fi ness of the art. To try and make it more RAW and Craft based - similar to the tech/teams in F1 - rather than loosing it's charm by dressing it up with generic far future style.

    The tracks will all be honed by the community and we will give people the opportunity to join up to the Test Pilot program - something that made the Wipeout games what they are - LOTS of testing right from the off!! So, we are tentatively dipping our toe into the pool of wipeout fans to try and get some feedback, love, and support - and you have our promise to listen to what you say every step of the way. When we were developing the game we were all well aware that it was your baby as much as ours, so we want to get it right this time too! There is definitely a fine art to doing this sort of game, and our deep seated knowledge of what went right and what went wrong, what went into creating that visceral experience is the thing that will set this aside from other offerings.

    Anyway - I loved working on Wipeout - it was the purest design/game experience of my career and I want to try and bring some of that purity back into the game. If I'm honest the brand needed a bit of a shake up, and I honestly think that we have something we can evolve into the next big AG experience - and to keep it less corporate and more indie. I will post up news and updates as things progress but here's a little glimpse of some early concept pre-viz work..



    For now - much love,

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    Looks nice, but I think a key aspect of wipeout is that it IS the future, ranging from simple anti gravity racing to crazy quakes all wrapped up in a nicely presented package of fun. Although not much is shown in that vid, i'm assuming since you mention F1 as well as reducing the sci-fi ness, i'm thinking race tracks will be made in a typical race track environment (read; stands, flat fenced of tracks and little environmental variation over the course of the track,… you know, the typical F1/ race car games). Wipeout has always been different in that aspect, flying through mountain ranges, apocalyptic and utopian areas, cities, and heck, even straight through a freaggin mall! It's crazy to think about such a thing when it comes down to it, but that's what makes it futuristic, it also allows for very dynamic track design, heavily banked, twisting tracks with hills going vertical and drops becoming jumps. It's anti gravity after all, exploit that concept, you're no longer as heavily restricted to this annoying thing called gravity

    Another, in my opinion, major and very important thing is the variety in ships, each having their own completely different design from the other, it is, what i think allows pilots to get "a bond" with their ship, the visualisation, all ships are the same, but just have a different texture applied, it does distinct one from the other, but it makes it less interesting. Not sure if ships will be equal in performance or not, if they aren't and all ships look the same, then it's only numbers/sliders that make a ship different and you wont get that feeling of, this is my favourite ship, i love flying this thing and will show that it can outperform others just as well! Wether you picked Feisar because it had that typical japanese tint to it, Harimau for it's smooth curves, Mirage cuz it's cute as hell, Piranha for looking badass, Triakis for being military themed, or any other ship for a different reason, one can relate/reflect him/herself upon their ship, it's like implementing personalisation into the game, without implementing it (the usual emblems/ textures).
    They don't have any tweaking either, (except for the difference between HD/Fury then, but those are still quite fixed anyway), there's no need to make it complex like that, it's something that actually annoys me in most racing games, all kinds of hassle to figure out the best setup, and once you find it, you're sticking to it, pointless imo

    Would love to hear more on the mechanics, as i don't want to criticize without knowing what the idea is (weapons or not? Mostly flat tarmac or not? Anti gravity as in, you can go flying, or anti gravity as in you're hovering above the track? Arcade or futuristic simulator? Speed or power?, …) Things you may not be able to disclose as you don't want to give away the concept, but some of those are rather important in defining the racing genre

    As a summary, i think art & design(shapes, but also tracks) will play a very big roll in defining wether you'll be going for more of a race car game, or a futuristic racing game (as well as some of the main mechanics, but i cannot comment on those as we don't know them, yet )

    Looking forward to hear about the development

    Cipher

    ps i dunno about the game title, would ditch the racing in it so the focus lies on SlamJet rather than on Racing ( a more common and understood word(->) plain, therefor grabbing all attention)
    pss sounding maybe a bit negative, but that might just be the case since i'm not exactly sure what the overall concept is, i really support you guys, and it's nice to see that that your team is asking for input/feedback before the game is 80% through development, really, much support & love <3
    pps if available, i think wide shot concept art could explain it better and give an overall feel (takes less time than 3D production as well, props to the artists though, looks good (Devs too, but we can't see that yet ))

    EDIT; well i wrote this before the update, but that preview shot helps a lot , liking the feel, i wouldn't really call that stepping away from sci-fi though lol, kind of glad with that
    The HUD isn't very readable though and looks a little, i don't know what the word is i'm looking for, but childish? maybe? i dunno, think it might be better not to have all separate, individual hud elements, a simple designed frame surroung it would already help a lot, but i would try make it more fluid And if you can't seem to make the transition from 1 element to the other, you still have the bottom 2 corners you know, in my opinion, a better place for the HUD as, when racing, you need to look ahead and you'll get distracted by the hud, you rarely ever look at the bottom of the screen, as it's trac that you've already past and is therefor no longer of importance, indicators such as speed, laps and throttle become trivial as they are non essential information (unless it's some kind of endurance race with a significant amount of laps)
    But looks good! Personally i don't think i'd go with reflective track surface, but that might just be me, ask around

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    Moved this over to the Ex-SL Projects forum as it does involve a former Wipeout developer

    Interesting to see you going for a twist on a more present-day concept, and I can certainly understand your reasoning behind it. Best of luck!

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    YESSSSS
    this looks incredible guys! Best of luck with everything, hope it goes well for you!

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    I still wonder...what´s the name of...this track ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cipher View Post
    Looks nice, but I think a key aspect of wipeout is that it IS the future, ranging from simple anti gravity racing to crazy quakes all wrapped up in a nicely presented package of fun. Although not much is shown in that vid, i'm assuming since you mention F1 as well as reducing the sci-fi ness, i'm thinking race tracks will be made in a typical race track environment (read; stands, flat fenced of tracks and little environmental variation over the course of the track,… you know, the typical F1/ race car games). Wipeout has always been different in that aspect, flying through mountain ranges, apocalyptic and utopian areas, cities, and heck, even straight through a freaggin mall! It's crazy to think about such a thing when it comes down to it, but that's what makes it futuristic, it also allows for very dynamic track design, heavily banked, twisting tracks with hills going vertical and drops becoming jumps. It's anti gravity after all, exploit that concept, you're no longer as heavily restricted to this annoying thing called gravity

    Another, in my opinion, major and very important thing is the variety in ships, each having their own completely different design from the other, it is, what i think allows pilots to get "a bond" with their ship, the visualisation, all ships are the same, but just have a different texture applied, it does distinct one from the other, but it makes it less interesting. Not sure if ships will be equal in performance or not, if they aren't and all ships look the same, then it's only numbers/sliders that make a ship different and you wont get that feeling of, this is my favourite ship, i love flying this thing and will show that it can outperform others just as well! Wether you picked Feisar because it had that typical japanese tint to it, Harimau for it's smooth curves, Mirage cuz it's cute as hell, Piranha for looking badass, Triakis for being military themed, or any other ship for a different reason, one can relate/reflect him/herself upon their ship, it's like implementing personalisation into the game, without implementing it (the usual emblems/ textures).
    They don't have any tweaking either, (except for the difference between HD/Fury then, but those are still quite fixed anyway), there's no need to make it complex like that, it's something that actually annoys me in most racing games, all kinds of hassle to figure out the best setup, and once you find it, you're sticking to it, pointless imo

    Would love to hear more on the mechanics, as i don't want to criticize without knowing what the idea is (weapons or not? Mostly flat tarmac or not? Anti gravity as in, you can go flying, or anti gravity as in you're hovering above the track? Arcade or futuristic simulator? Speed or power?, …) Things you may not be able to disclose as you don't want to give away the concept, but some of those are rather important in defining the racing genre

    As a summary, i think art & design(shapes, but also tracks) will play a very big roll in defining wether you'll be going for more of a race car game, or a futuristic racing game (as well as some of the main mechanics, but i cannot comment on those as we don't know them, yet )

    Looking forward to hear about the development

    Cipher

    ps i dunno about the game title, would ditch the racing in it so the focus lies on SlamJet rather than on Racing ( a more common and understood word(->) plain, therefor grabbing all attention)
    pss sounding maybe a bit negative, but that might just be the case since i'm not exactly sure what the overall concept is, i really support you guys, and it's nice to see that that your team is asking for input/feedback before the game is 80% through development, really, much support & love <3
    pps if available, i think wide shot concept art could explain it better and give an overall feel (takes less time than 3D production as well, props to the artists though, looks good (Devs too, but we can't see that yet ))

    EDIT; well i wrote this before the update, but that preview shot helps a lot , liking the feel, i wouldn't really call that stepping away from sci-fi though lol, kind of glad with that
    The HUD isn't very readable though and looks a little, i don't know what the word is i'm looking for, but childish? maybe? i dunno, think it might be better not to have all separate, individual hud elements, a simple designed frame surroung it would already help a lot, but i would try make it more fluid And if you can't seem to make the transition from 1 element to the other, you still have the bottom 2 corners you know, in my opinion, a better place for the HUD as, when racing, you need to look ahead and you'll get distracted by the hud, you rarely ever look at the bottom of the screen, as it's trac that you've already past and is therefor no longer of importance, indicators such as speed, laps and throttle become trivial as they are non essential information (unless it's some kind of endurance race with a significant amount of laps)
    But looks good! Personally i don't think i'd go with reflective track surface, but that might just be me, ask around
    Thanks Cipher, this is all great - thank you very much! Let me see if I can answer some of your points.

    We are going to cater for those that just want to pick up and race but we also want people to be able to personalise their race experience by tailoring their craft, more for single player race leagues - if you want to be a combative weapons racer you can concentrate on weapons tech, if you want to be a speed demon then you can look at boost technology, if you want perfection then you can look at balance systems. There will be different race classes and it will be less about finding that perfect set up and rather more about developing a craft that suits your style of play and the track you have chosen.

    The game is more about science and technology colliding with the world of AG racing. There is a research element and teams will have a distinctive vibe - with some teams finding it easier than others to research particular areas and some teams starting off with slight advantages.

    I don't know about you but I could ace some of the tracks I played but they each had a slight different personality to them, on some of the bends I would have liked a bit more control to shave that extra second off for example. It almost became intuitive.. lost in the experience. As you progress through the leagues you will be able to advance through different craft - working your way up to the GHOST leagues, which includes alien craft and associated technology specific to each team. We want to take this game to the next level and really push the speed aspect so there will be a lot of experimentation with the HUD to get the balance of hud based and track based navigation just right, considering the speeds we want to get out of the game. The idea is to make it truly visceral..

    We are not going to take the game into the far future where style and functionality can become lost in translation, we want to take it into a gritty world with deep contrasts and cool environment fx, whilst giving it it's own distinctive look and feel. But it will still have the high tech flavours we have all become accustomed to. We have some 'really' cool talent on board with this including some big names from the movie industry to really push the art direction. Although you are right, it is all about the game play - but as with the original wipeout - that's something that took months of testing to purify.

    A lot of what you see is still WIP and we are keen to engage with the community to tighten up all aspects so we get that killer game. That goes for the track and layout too. We have plans for lots of cool things including the track being dynamic so it can relay light and hazard information based on where you are and also project holographic pickups etc.. All weighted to add to the race experience rather than just art for arts sake.

    This is just a start to the creative process, which needs to be evolutionary so we tightly hone the end result..

    Thanks Cipher, means a lot.

    P.s. We will see what the reaction to the name is and make a decision later..

    Take a look at this (again WIP):



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny View Post
    I still wonder...what´s the name of...this track ^^
    It is DUB FX and 'Run', off his second album 'Harmony'. He is going to produce the music - incredibly talented and a great guy to boot!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadofmondays View Post
    YESSSSS
    this looks incredible guys! Best of luck with everything, hope it goes well for you!
    Thanks Matey - we are just trying to keep the flame alive, and to be honest, I need to enjoy making games again, like I did in the 90's and early 00's.. There just isn't anything that can mirror the wipeout dev experience for me. Now we have lined up all the talent to give it a good shot, fingers crossed! Respect to you for Slipstream GX! We are looking more next gen with this - to have fun with shaders n stuff :-)

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    what platforms will this be on because this looks like something i would play the living crap out of it looks gorgeous same for the machinics look fantastic have nice day and btw i can't wait for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by prototype890 View Post
    what platforms will this be on because this looks like something i would play the living crap out of it looks gorgeous same for the machinics look fantastic have nice day and btw i can't wait for it
    Thanks a ton!

    We are planning to go out on PC Steam initially (because we think it's about time there is something like this for PC Gamers) with PS4 and Xbox One 'soon' afterwards - oh and we are looking at VR too

    VR has some cool possibilities - I reckon we can get it to the point that you get nose bleeds from the speed, just like the original Wipeout ads that were banned lol!! - we have an Oculus Dev kit (raises finger to lips - sssh!).

    Best,
    R8 Team

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    and you've 'Red Bull' involved somehow so the money is there
    please implement force feedback racing wheel support, that's the only needed feature wipeout is missing so far. so, if your game would feature it, i would buy it for sure.

    edit: cockpit view with all the gizmos and stuff would be appreciated too...

    edit2: i must say i like the tronesque touch of the racing helmets of your drivers
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    I'm a bit disappointed, first you say it won't be this generic farfuture racer, more racing. But then it's mentioned there will be weapons?
    Anyway, I'll follow your updates ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny View Post
    I'm a bit disappointed, first you say it won't be this generic farfuture racer, more racing. But then it's mentioned there will be weapons?
    Anyway, I'll follow your updates ^^
    Initially - the weapons were more a strategic advantage - like a virus to effect the craft systems, or drones that damage the shield systems, but the idea evolved with the addition of more experimental concepts. I'm all about speed and fluidity without disrupting gameplay so it all needs to have a balance. Nothing will be added that takes away from the race feel.. It's not a shoot em up.. In the world we created - the idea wasn't to fight to the death, but to use science breakthroughs to gain an advantage. Just like F1 - but visually we want to pack it full of screen fx too - like lights blurring into ribbons and, almost to become abstract. So the weapons will ABSOLUTELY only be added if they 'add' to the feel of what we are trying to achieve.

    Also, I don't want to take away anything from generic sci-fi style games.. But we are striving to make a mark and it's a challenge that's for sure. Design of the aesthetics is something we take very seriously indeed and there's no way we can get everything right in the initial stages, that's what pre-production is all about

    Point taken tho..

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFisty View Post
    Thanks a ton!

    We are planning to go out on PC Steam initially (because we think it's about time there is something like this for PC Gamers) with PS4 and Xbox One 'soon' afterwards - oh and we are looking at VR too

    VR has some cool possibilities - I reckon we can get it to the point that you get nose bleeds from the speed, just like the original Wipeout ads that were banned lol!! - we have an Oculus Dev kit (raises finger to lips - sssh!).

    Best,
    R8 Team
    i just can't wait for it i might just get the Oculus for this game and when is the launch window exactly i shall be closely following theses updates sincerely a fan of slamjet YYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW
    EDIT will weight play an affect on craft behavior i.e a heavy craft will be slow and when it lands from a jump it will not be as bouncy and vice a versa for light crafts and are sponsorship deals you can secure also can you make decisions on craft development or is it just an upgrade system oh yeah two more things can you change the colors of your craft and does your play style affect public reactions and your teams look ie if you play very aggressively destroying crafts left right and center people might hate you and other pilots might fear you oh will there be interviews for your character and dialog choices during said interviews last thing will there be like and underdog team and a top dog one and will there be an economy bye
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFisty View Post
    Thanks Cipher, this is all great - thank you very much! Let me see if I can answer some of your points.

    We are going to cater for those that just want to pick up and race but we also want people to be able to personalise their race experience by tailoring their craft, more for single player race leagues - if you want to be a combative weapons racer you can concentrate on weapons tech, if you want to be a speed demon then you can look at boost technology, if you want perfection then you can look at balance systems. There will be different race classes and it will be less about finding that perfect set up and rather more about developing a craft that suits your style of play and the track you have chosen.

    The game is more about science and technology colliding with the world of AG racing. There is a research element and teams will have a distinctive vibe - with some teams finding it easier than others to research particular areas and some teams starting off with slight advantages.

    I don't know about you but I could ace some of the tracks I played but they each had a slight different personality to them, on some of the bends I would have liked a bit more control to shave that extra second off for example. It almost became intuitive.. lost in the experience. As you progress through the leagues you will be able to advance through different craft - working your way up to the GHOST leagues, which includes alien craft and associated technology specific to each team. We want to take this game to the next level and really push the speed aspect so there will be a lot of experimentation with the HUD to get the balance of hud based and track based navigation just right, considering the speeds we want to get out of the game. The idea is to make it truly visceral..

    We are not going to take the game into the far future where style and functionality can become lost in translation, we want to take it into a gritty world with deep contrasts and cool environment fx, whilst giving it it's own distinctive look and feel. But it will still have the high tech flavours we have all become accustomed to. We have some 'really' cool talent on board with this including some big names from the movie industry to really push the art direction. Although you are right, it is all about the game play - but as with the original wipeout - that's something that took months of testing to purify.

    A lot of what you see is still WIP and we are keen to engage with the community to tighten up all aspects so we get that killer game. That goes for the track and layout too. We have plans for lots of cool things including the track being dynamic so it can relay light and hazard information based on where you are and also project holographic pickups etc.. All weighted to add to the race experience rather than just art for arts sake.

    This is just a start to the creative process, which needs to be evolutionary so we tightly hone the end result..

    Thanks Cipher, means a lot.

    P.s. We will see what the reaction to the name is and make a decision later..

    Take a look at this (again WIP):

    *snip*
    Sounds interesting, especially the tech tree thingy, saw the visualisation of it as well and it looks nice (just add a faint black opacity backdrop in between hud and background for readability, it blends a little too much with some of the background visuals, i'm imagining the backdrop flicker in and then the hud swirls onto it from left to right as in the vid (love the dynamic feel of it like in the vid ^^) (and i know it's wip, just mentioning )) making me wonder how you will unlock/progress into a tree though? Experience? Skill points? in game credits? Loyalty points? Campaign progress? or something else

    For the racing and having a bit more control, i wont judge it, would have to be able to race it to see how it feels, so we'll patiently wait , i do enjoy your thought of speed and fluidity, a lot of racing games that involve weapons ( eg mario kart, blur, …) really disrupt the whole racing aspect, making weapons heavily affect outcome, wipeout HD was on the edge with that i think, it wasn't devastating, but it was still there (although personally i still find that bombs mins and rockets in HD/Fury slow you down too much, but that's just me, a lot of people like it that way as well i think)

    As for the name, see it like this, when a 3 section is added, it loses it's initial expressive power take examples from other games, most are always 2 sections;
    Fi-Fa, Battle-Field, Wipe-Out, Border-Lands, Cry-Sis, Mine-Craft, Magi-Cite, Bio-Shock, yada yada yada
    There's a lot of exceptions to the case, no doubt, but usually it wont be a generic term added to it, then again, it might just be me though, but it think it's more fluid/ powerful with just SlamJet, so yeah ask around

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFisty View Post
    Thanks a ton!

    We are planning to go out on PC Steam initially (because we think it's about time there is something like this for PC Gamers) with PS4 and Xbox One 'soon' afterwards - oh and we are looking at VR too

    VR has some cool possibilities - I reckon we can get it to the point that you get nose bleeds from the speed, just like the original Wipeout ads that were banned lol!! - we have an Oculus Dev kit (raises finger to lips - sssh!).

    Best,
    R8 Team
    PS controller support! Please please please! Annoying since windows doesn't come with the drivers, but playing racing games with a keyboard is usually meeh and not everybody has an XBOX

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFisty View Post
    We are looking more next gen with this - to have fun with shaders n stuff :-) visually we want to pack it full of screen fx too - like lights blurring into ribbons and, almost to become abstract.
    If i hear shaders i instantly think UE3/4? Looking great either way, can't wait to see more! Good Luck

    Cipher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cipher View Post
    Sounds interesting, especially the tech tree thingy, saw the visualisation of it as well and it looks nice (just add a faint black opacity backdrop in between hud and background for readability, it blends a little too much with some of the background visuals, i'm imagining the backdrop flicker in and then the hud swirls onto it from left to right as in the vid (love the dynamic feel of it like in the vid ^^) (and i know it's wip, just mentioning )) making me wonder how you will unlock/progress into a tree though? Experience? Skill points? in game credits? Loyalty points? Campaign progress? or something else

    For the racing and having a bit more control, i wont judge it, would have to be able to race it to see how it feels, so we'll patiently wait , i do enjoy your thought of speed and fluidity, a lot of racing games that involve weapons ( eg mario kart, blur, …) really disrupt the whole racing aspect, making weapons heavily affect outcome, wipeout HD was on the edge with that i think, it wasn't devastating, but it was still there (although personally i still find that bombs mins and rockets in HD/Fury slow you down too much, but that's just me, a lot of people like it that way as well i think)

    As for the name, see it like this, when a 3 section is added, it loses it's initial expressive power take examples from other games, most are always 2 sections;
    Fi-Fa, Battle-Field, Wipe-Out, Border-Lands, Cry-Sis, Mine-Craft, Magi-Cite, Bio-Shock, yada yada yada
    There's a lot of exceptions to the case, no doubt, but usually it wont be a generic term added to it, then again, it might just be me though, but it think it's more fluid/ powerful with just SlamJet, so yeah ask around



    PS controller support! Please please please! Annoying since windows doesn't come with the drivers, but playing racing games with a keyboard is usually meeh and not everybody has an XBOX



    If i hear shaders i instantly think UE3/4? Looking great either way, can't wait to see more! Good Luck

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    Thanks mate - that's awesome feedback. I can't give away the unlock/progression element stuff yet - you don't know who is looking at this thread ;-) We are looking at many platforms and peripherals at the moment so will confirm the road map shortly. We are fairly early on with balancing it all but you can be sure that play testing right from the off is number one priority - so I want to introduce mechanics, particularly weapon mechanics, really carefully - that includes getting the right message across to you guys. Who know's I might call on you to help??

    It's always interesting when you engage with the community - being as open as we are at this stage (which can be a blessing 'or' a curse). It's interesting that we already have 1 dislike on that YouTube WIP - what do people want haha..! Game development of this type of game is evolutionary - our approach is to get core wipeout fans helping us at every stage so we can get it right.
    Every element needs careful thought with the fluidity of the race feeling in mind - even right down to track markings and visual noise, but we have a good handle on what is important from past experience.

    Best,
    R8 Games.

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    Very, very impressed! Those Early WIP videos and screenshot look gorgeous! Will definitely keep my eye out for this! Not too fond of the name however, I think it's a good racing game name, but doesn't suit the visual style that you're going for (from what I've seen). Of course, that's my humble opinion and you'd have a much more informed point of view I just think that it's a little generic, maybe? That this is a special looking game and a more creative and intriguing title would benefit it in putting it out there. Again, just my well-meaning feedback

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    Very, very impressed! Those Early WIP videos and screenshot look gorgeous! Will definitely keep my eye out for this! Not too fond of the name however, I think it's a good racing game name, but doesn't suit the visual style that you're going for (from what I've seen). Of course, that's my humble opinion and you'd have a much more informed point of view I just think that it's a little generic, maybe? That this is a special looking game and a more creative and intriguing title would benefit it in putting it out there. Again, just my well-meaning feedback
    Maybe you guys can suggest a name!? We are open at this stage to suggestions ?? :-)
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    How about 'Rapid'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND-2-SPD View Post
    How about 'Rapid'
    Ooh, me gusta!

    I know you guys are going for your own look, style, and gameplay attributes, but maybe a subtle nod to the WipEout heritage? A title ala 'Phantom' or 'ceramic alumina borosilica racing'; something easily identifiable Haha, I'm kidding, of course. Will let you know if I think of anything actually worth contributing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFisty View Post
    Thanks mate - that's awesome feedback. I can't give away the unlock/progression element stuff yet - you don't know who is looking at this thread ;-) We are looking at many platforms and peripherals at the moment so will confirm the road map shortly. We are fairly early on with balancing it all but you can be sure that play testing right from the off is number one priority - so I want to introduce mechanics, particularly weapon mechanics, really carefully - that includes getting the right message across to you guys. Who know's I might call on you to help??

    It's always interesting when you engage with the community - being as open as we are at this stage (which can be a blessing 'or' a curse). It's interesting that we already have 1 dislike on that YouTube WIP - what do people want haha..! Game development of this type of game is evolutionary - our approach is to get core wipeout fans helping us at every stage so we can get it right.
    Every element needs careful thought with the fluidity of the race feeling in mind - even right down to track markings and visual noise, but we have a good handle on what is important from past experience.

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    R8 Games.
    Hehehe, i understand that ^^, no problem
    And yeah, same for the weapons and mechanics,if you're not 100% sure yet yourself as a team, no need to bring it out if it's going to change fundamentally

    As for the second paragraph, don't let that pull you down, there will always be haters, or just people who honestly don't like it, but that doesn't mean there's nobody that does like it. Those people haven't had a hands on, so they shouldn't really be judging it in the first place
    Looking forward to see how it develops!
    Feel free to ask for help, we're here

    Cipher

    ps oh and as for the name, i'm not going to jump on that, i'm terrible at names XD

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    I guess this one tumb down was either someone surfing the internet and was like "what's this sh*t?" or searched "Dub fx - run" found the video and realised it's no the song ^^

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