W'O" records

[JABBERJAW]

hey, could someone who owns a wipeout download for ps3 FROM EUROPE ON A EUROPEAN ACCOUNT check out the default times for karbonis single race venom speed for me and post the names, and the times here. thanks

[lunar]

Djr 2.43.0
nik 2.56.0
dar 3.15.0
dom 3.31.0
lee 3.43.0

[JABBERJAW]

MEdusa, could you ask him to try and put up a youtube video or something. The testing I did definitely makes me suspect of that time with a dpad, but I would like to see it if it is real.

[lunar]

Awesome work on Altima, really squeezing out the seconds

[JABBERJAW]

There never was an explanation for the time, or real proof either. There is no way you accidentally walk into a lap that fast on wipeout 1 without being able to explain the line, especially these times, that I played hours to get to.

There are ways to cheat to make the ship move really fast, but I will not post it here. The way I am suggesting would allow you to turn on the system, and beat the record on the first try, hence only having one default name on the table, so a real proof would be a video, or maybe even a turn by turn explanation of the race

[lunar]

I completely agree, there`s no way to get record laps on a track this competitive in this game without knowing exactly how you did it for every pixel of the lap. Wipeout 1 is such a subtle game, all about finding the perfect combination of the highest possible speed and the most efficient line. Ways of keeping the speed up require almost scientific research, which is tough without ghost ships. I noticed you are moving onto NTSC territory now. Yikes! Energy Critical! Man the Negcons! Or failing that man the lifeboats

[JABBERJAW]

I figured since I was on the track anyway, might as well try that one, I race it differently as well since it seems like it slides more than the pal version. It's possible I need to brake and pitch more though

[Medusa]

Wowawowa Al! Super times there, great job! (Thank goodness it's been long enough since I've touched WipEout that I'm not driven insane by jealousy. (more insane, that is...) Finally, sweet relief. No more heart attacks looking at the home page, lol.

Sorry I'm so late, you beat me out asking about the YouTube upload.

[JABBERJAW]

Kieran Noble on
Dec 13th 2008 @ 11:19 Wipeout (PAL) Altima VII Qirex Venom Time Trial
Lap Time 1:10:60


Kieran Noble on
Dec 13th 2008 @ 10:36 Wipeout (PAL) Altima VII Qirex Venom Time Trial
Race Time 3:37:40

The altima times were updated with slower times ( a few different times) than the original (full race)

The time trial lap time is crap, no way, not with a dpad, and may not even be possible with a negcon. People have asked him at deviant art to prove his time, besides a screen shot. I spent a lot of time with the lap time for altima (three nights), and he beats it no problem with a dpad. Anyway, he has not responded at all. He should be saying how the time was gotten if he really is able to get this sort of time. This should be deleted if he will not show proof. Sorry, but I am pissed about this guy, either making up times or using a gameshark, and then posting times that Lunar, myself RJ, and isadora put so much time into. If he had a different route, there should be issue with explaining his time, but there are not many different routes for this track. Also, when he was asked which version regular or platinum, he said he got the times with the original version. How come then are the fonts yellow. Then he wouldn't answer some other guys question on deviant art about the times for over 5 days

[Task]

Kieran Noble on
Dec 13th 2008 @ 11:19 Wipeout (PAL) Altima VII Qirex Venom Time Trial
Lap Time 1:10:60

Had a look into the user, their records account references a "KDN" forum account that doesn't exist, so we can't PM. We've given Kieran a lot of time to respond, and without some sort of a response as to what racing line or magical technique was used to get that kind of time, I can only think that it was a data entry error (keyboard mistakes are pretty common) or it was done on the PSP version of WO1 (which is significantly easier to get fast times on I hear) or something like that.
The rest of Kieran's times (not many, seems to be an Altima VII specialist) are pretty good, but I don't see any argument against them. That TT lap time definitely stands out though. I'll edit it down for now and we'll see what happens.

PM me if there's a reason to change it back and I can re-adjust it.

[JABBERJAW]

I'm not sure what is happening, but the time on the wipeout records entered is now 1:12.4. He started with a supposed 1:11.2, then 1;10.6, now a 1:12.4

for single race, his record was a supposed 3:36.4, now it is a 3:37.4. He has been contacted on his website regarding his times by another member, answered some questions, but has given no response there as to how he got his times, it has been a few weeks since the topic came up.

Jay the time for karbonis SR lap is extremely questionable as well. It took me hours to get LUCKY to get that time, although even with a dpad that may be possible with hours of playing, and alot of luck (meaning picking up turbos in specific locations). Minimum of three on lap one in the right areas. Even 4 turbos on lap 2 did not give me this time.

[lunar]

I agree with Al, his times should be deleted until we get proof and explanations, or I think he should be given a deadline to give proof and explanations of very questionable times. His behaviour in entering times is unusual.

Yesterday morning his Pal Altima venom TT times were 3.36.2/1.11.1 for lap and race.

then yesterday he upated to slower times - 3.40.xx (can`t remember the tenths and 1.11.9.

Why did he get rid of his earlier times? If they were legit why replace them?

About 20 minutes after that update he changed his times again to 3.37.4/1.11.4, still slower than Al and his previous "records", but getting closer again.

About 40 minutes after that he changed the lap time to 1.10.6 - a new record and probably unbeatable. As Al explained, this is very doubtful. If someone is going to claim unbeatable times they need to be either a known and trusted person who has done their time of proving themselves in the past, as most have had to do, or they should provide some proof, I think. I think all this times swapping just makes me doubt him more. If he can prove himself well done to him, but at the moment it really all looks very fishy to me.

I think this 1.10.6 now is lower because Task edited it down (thanks).

[JABBERJAW]

He will not even explain it on his site, where he talked about the ship he used, but nothing about the race when asked a variety of questions by someone called Wipeouthd. He stopped answering questions about 10 days ago or so, when you read down the comments on the times

[Darkdrium777]

I am also going to delete the records I have uploaded because they are not from the original PS1 version. There is differents beween the Euro PS1 and US & PSN version that I have. The European PS1 version has red fonts and the PSN & the North American version has yellow fonts on them, how can I be an idiot for not knowing the different coloured fonts, it's been a while since I played the first WipEout and I blame my head for not knowing.

The old records will be replaced by the PS1 version records, I have files of the PS1, PC and the Sega Saturn records as well. And I will be editing my times I have put on WipeoutZone.

I still blame myself for not knowing the fonts though.

Does this explain his behaviour?

http://kdn2197.deviantart.com/

[JABBERJAW]

What do the fonts have to do with what is on the memory card for the specific games? The records shown on the memory card should be correct, when you put a ntsc disk into the system, it will not load the pal records, but the ntsc ones.

Anyway, at least they were removed, thanks xavier for posting this

[Task]

Ah, there we go, I was hoping for a response.
So now we know, he was indeed using the PSN version.
His mistake, but those times are definitely not valid in our PS1 tables.
All his times have been deleted!

Let me know if you see any ones I missed.

[JABBERJAW]

karbonis sr lap and race time