New Awesome 2097 times

[lunar]

he`s straight up, but as for his technique.... I can`t help you there. you and Al are waaaaay ahead of me

[Spunky]

I would believe that tyson would be right with if it is possible, having a seperate section for people(countires) that can do this.
I will attempt this trick to see if it works on PAL Aussie version.

It would be intresting to see if it works.
Spunky

[infoxicated]

I would believe that tyson would be right with if it is possible, having a seperate section for people(countires) that can do this.

No danger of that happening, mate - might as well have seperate sections for people who use NegCons, people who stick to the track, people who take shortcuts, people who cheat but don't admit it, people who cheat and do admit it, and people with blue hair.

I have blue hair at the moment (don't ask), so I thought I'd add that last one in.

[Lance]

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i don't know why, but the ''blue hair'' remark started me laughing like a crazed hyena.

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short of adding tables for the original WipEout, i can't see any purpose or validity for adding any more records tables at all.
any specialised competitions can be done as challenges in the ''Arena''. examples might be a WO3 Phantom class Feisar only challenge, or a Run Without Guns Auricom at Spilskinanke Trophy.
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[Spunky]

I have blue hair at the moment (don't ask),

I'll try not to!! heh heh blue hair heh heh

I would have to agree with both of you on those points.
Anything other than straight racing or time trials should be in the Arena.

I will be putting up my challenge soon I hope.

I want to get a feel for how many people would jump into it.
I want it to start in March, we would spend 1 week per difficultly per track to attain out best times.

Spunky

[JABBERJAW]

I'm going to try the brake technique again

[TYSON]

HA HA, well Done AL!! - I didn't realise you'd contacted him and requested a video. Twin Galaxies have to put up with ppl like this all the time. You might not go as far as to call him a liar Al, so allow me. You alone are the Grand master of Talons reach sub 15 is phony, especially as you just confirmed over 500 on the speedo doesn't happen... work it out...

Besides, what was the 'fishiest' about this claim to the top was the outrageous 1:15.1 race time. Remember racers, we start from a Dead still start, a turbo start hardly helps out for a good 1st lap time. As far as I know sub 16 laps are only possible after the 1st lap (please correct me if i'm wrong) and considering a race of 1:15.1 is an average lap of 15.0! I would have to say that a cyborg would have trouble pulling it off!

Video evidence, or no glory on this one, I don't belive it, & I don't think it should be taking any attention away from the outstanding performance of your 1:20.3 or what ever it was. That's a blinding time & I don't doubt it, cause I'm sure you wouldn't hesitate to show it on video.

Cheers
:wink:

[lunar]

Tyson, I just don`t think its fairplay to call someone a liar when he`s not here to defend himself, and hasn`t even made his claims in this space. Surely as far as we`re concerned the "world records" are what appear in the tables here, and it doesn`t really matter what other people have said anyway - it just goes in a category of "unproven," and the records are what we see within the context of the competition of the wipeoutzone tables. I just think its unjust to blacken someone`s name like that. Its possible he did it, especially as a method has been described by which he could have squeezed out a bit more speed.....

Al, I agree zone doesn`t make you necessarily good at 2097/XL, but Assayeah`s achievments in that, proven by the webcodes, also prove that he has great timing, reflexes, powers of concentration and an ability to deal with speed - all of which you need lots of to get the kind of times you and Tyson are getting. He clearly has the same sort of level of ability as you guys do. Its no coincidence you were one of the first to zone 100, its all part of the same thing, though I agree its not absolutely the same.

[JABBERJAW]

useless dribble=edit

[Spunky]

Al,
I would have to agree with you that getting 500 kph with a d-pad would be almost impossible.
I've got to 430 - 440 kph just after a turbo but a constant 415 - 420 kph until I crash that is.

I've been playing around with the max lock on the negcon and not to sure if it would make the lap times any better.
Do you guys do the same or do you leave it as standard.

lunar, you are right with that we shouldn't call someone a liar on account that something we haven't acheived yet, skeptical yes, lair no.

Spunky

[lunar]

I`ve been using about a third of the maximum value on 3SE and 2097, which means 60 and 40 respectively, I think. I made 2097 sharper still, value 50, with decent results :wink: so I think I may need to go sharper on SE too, and possibly on 2097 again.

but of course you would rather know what Al and Tyson are using.

[Spunky]

I used to be using the normal amount (90) on 2097 and still got good results.
As i have read in this thread people have been fine tuning their controllers for better turning, which I then tried with success on Rapier Talons reach beating my time by 3 secs.
So it works none the less, or was it just my times that were crap that any PL's would have beaten it.

Rapier TL - 118.0 , 19.1

[lunar]

well I certainly wouldn`t describe your times that way. Some of my attempts to beat some of them though..... well deserving of that description.

My biggest problem on TR is that Feisar that parks by the pits at the end of lap 2, and the others that sit in the middle of the narrow section on laps 3 and 4. And of course if you hit them you not only lose time, but they quite often shoot you too. : I suppose you have to learn where they are and find a new line, seeing as they do the same thing in every race.

twist setting might be less crucial on TR, but I think on courses like Gare d`Europa it would have to be pretty sensitive or you won`t make the turns. I wouldn`t really want to get into adjusting it track by track though.

[Spunky]

You are talking about race times not time trial.
I have no doubt that they can be beaten.

Just out of curiosity which did you break class wise.
My times are only just behind my time trail ones though
Lap times within 1 sec Race time ranging from 2 - 12 secs.

At the moment I'm playing around to find just the right amount for most of the tracks.
But if you left it at normal you would get the more precise turning action that the negcon delivers, although it can be customised to suit.
Spunky

[lunar]

I don`t have as much time to put into the game as I`d like, so I put all my efforts into doing race mode. I also prefer race because it gives you more to think about, though not so much with 2097/Piranha as 3SE/Icaras.

I beat TR and Sagarmatha - rapier. No doubt you can take them back, you`re a faster pilot than me. But you`ll have to watch your back in the future..... I might strike anytime, anywhere.... :wink: I equalled your TR time twice before I finally beat it - I kept hitting other ships. When I finally got there my heart was going about 500 beats per minute on the last lap. I love this game.

But I won`t post any more times for a bit - I want to get a decent line on the other tracks, rapier only, before I make a move up to phantom.

I know what you mean about losing a bit of the accurate steering if you make the neg too sensitive, but if its not sensitive enough I end up using the brakes too much to swing the nose round sharp bends.

[TYSON]

Hi Guys,
Yeah it was a bit harsh the whole liar claim, I just get really agitated if that's the truth, but lets leave it open. I'd certainly love to learn how to acheive a sub 15 time!

I'm getting the impression that people (top pilots) use Negcons? Are these way better than D pads for getting the extreme times? I got my 1:23 using a D pad, & Al i think the best speed I've got with a D pad was 485, it seems to stick on this speed... can't remember seeing speeds much higher. Like I was trying to imply though, I CAN NOT see that a sub 15 second lap is possible without going over 500Km, & I'm certain that 2097 doesn't do this (without cheating anyway).

Al, what's the code you used for 2400Km? I might have a look for a laugh.

Maybe I should be learning to use a negcon after all...

[Spunky]

No doubt you can take them back, you`re a faster pilot than me. But you`ll have to watch your back in the future..... I might strike anytime, anywhere....

I can only give it a go!!
At the moment I've been trying to achieve a sub 16 sec time on TL on TT but I've kept stuffing it up.
Might have to move on for a while and come back to it.

Maybe I should be learning to use a negcon after all

I have found that I couldn't achieve a time much better than about 19 secs a lap on TL on Phantom, but that was quite a while ago. You've got to use the air brakes to much to get around the corners.
I don't see why the speedo doesn't get over 500 I would have to say that it would display anything up the 999 if it was possible.

Spunky

[Spunky]

You were right!
Check it out!!!
New race times for TL on Rapier

Spunky

[lunar]

very nice time!! well done!

you must have had 4 good PLs, not hitting a single ship. It`ll take some beating.

I`ll need to raise my game a bit. And work out how you got an 18.4 lap.

thanks for the competition!!

Tyson, I`m sure you`d go faster with a negcon, you can easily stop yourself losing speed by bottoming out, and you can turn sharper without braking. Looking at your times I`d assumed you were using one.

[Spunky]

Yes you are right I am using a negcon.
Having a bit competion makes all the difference.
Before a couple of weeks ago I hadn't played it for about a year now its at least a couple of times a week.
I renews the passion for the games having people to play against.
I just wish that I could get broadband and get onto On-line games with my PC and PS2 to make the games that much better once you have beaten them.
I love a little bit of competion to keep this fresh.

Spunky