A console vita for 100$, awesome! You can use a dualshock controller. Not all games are supported that require in game touchscreen stuff, so I'm not sure about 2048. I can't read Japanese as there is a list if you can. I'll be first in line if it works. It is also said to work with a dual shock 4, which has a touch panel
2048 isn't on the list unfortunately, confirmed by several others. There's quite a few other notable high profile omissions too. Shame, as if it could play 2048 I'd be all over it.
Hopes dashed :(. Maybe they will make an add on touchpad or something. I'm not holding my breath. Psp games will play though!
I wonder if you can use a ps vita as a controller for it?
I'll probably get one of these even without 2048, it'll still be a good way of playing Pulse, Pure and other stuff on a TV and with a Dual Shock 3.
For the touch controls you would think they could have added an on screen cursor activated with an unused button like L2/R2 and L3/R3. As it can stream PS4 games eventually the Dual Shock 4's touch pad might work for touch controls.
My immediate thought went to playing Pure on the big screen *droooooooooooooool* I'll be getting one if I can.
Could you play Pure in the US, even if it wasn't released for Vita? (it says "Play PSP games" in the trailer)
Yeah, pure and pulse should be quite awesome, and I'm still holding out hope for a firmware update for a cursor like you said for touch controls. 2048 would be so much easier to see on a big screen. I'm curious as to if you can charge your ps3 controllers through the USB port, and use the controller when it is plugged in. Also, I'm wondering if USB ps3 controllers will work.
Interesting news, thanks! PS Vita TV - it might be my mom's first console. LOL
It would be great to play Wipeout 2048 with a Dual Shock 3 controller. Adding a cursor can't really be difficult so I'm hoping that 2048 gets a patch that makes this possible.
Wouldn't a firmware update be more likely, like r stick for the cursor and r3 for the screen tap. That would work with all games. No way a patch for 2048 will happen
YAY! Finally I can play Wipeout 2048.:rock:rock:rock
The new VITA slim has been announced.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/...ita-announced/
Plus VITA TV.
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/rele.../130909c_e.pdf
The thing I like about VITA TV is that it gives the new VITA slim the same capabilities the PSP GO! had, namely the abiltity to mate PS3 controllers to it and output video to a TV.:)
It also seems that VITA TV might allow recording of VITA games [Not really sure, as from my very brief read it seems at least to me inferred in the PDF above] so Hellfire, you should be happy about that !:)
Happy Days.
This should see the zone far more active, as most people didn't get 2048 only because they, like me, find playing any Wipeout on a handheld torture.
Here's VITA TV in action [well promo video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MoTr_-FE0U#t=29
As far as I understood, Wipeout 2048 was not compatable to play using Vita TV
Why is that?
I think you just take the game card out of your vita and stick it in the VITA TV box and off you go.
See the video above.
If it isn't compatible I think it would only be because of 2048's use of the VITA controls that differ from a PS3 controller.
Maybe a system update will make PS4 controller compatible and all will work out as hoped.
Lets all hope for that. At this point the game would load ( probably) but you wouldn't be able to choose anything. Maybe the use of another ps vita plugged into the tv box could allow this as well.
I just found another YouTube video about this.
Reading the spiel in the video notes it says it will allow you to play VITA games via your PS4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&v=WHLj71zzwIo
All a bit confusing ATM, either way, it looks like 2048 will finally be able to played on a large screen.
EDIT: And by rights, if this gizmo allows games stored on VITA cards to be played on a big screen, then that will mean WO, PURE + DLC, PULSE + DLC and 2048 could all be played like that, as all can be stored and played on a current VITA.
I think this is as close to the Wipeout Holy Grail as we could reasonably expect, considering the age of the games.
OK, Found a explanation here.
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/games...-tv-specs-news
QUOTE:
The Vita TV micro console is essentially the guts of a PS Vita in a small box with an HDMI output. You plug it into a second TV in your home and then you can stream games and other video content from the PS4 to that screen
So, as seen in one of the videos, you put your VITA game card into the VITA TV micro console, it reads the game card, then runs it through the PS4.
Instant backward compatibility for old PSone downloadable titles, PSP downloadable titles and VITA titles. 8)
Thanks Blackwiggle for the detailed explaination. :) :) :)
Nononononono.
The reason why 2048 is not playable on VITA TV is likely due to controller support. There are a few vita games that require/feature touch controls, like Uncharted, which will not be supported by VITA TV at it's launch. Also be aware that Dualshock 4 + PS4 streaming is also not available at the launch of the VITA TV, and is planned to be patched later.
My bets is that you can put the cartridge in and 2048 will display fine, but you'll be pressing accelerate and nothing will happen.
Either it was a decision by Sony or whoever calls the shots on 2048 now, that PS3 controls does not reflect/meet all the original designed controls of the game (to which I disagree).
More importantly Sony has no plans to release the VITA TV in the Western market. This may also reflect why some Western developed games are not supported at launch of the device.
See the game list here (In Japanese): http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvitatv/game/psvitalist/
AH's statement on releasing VTV outside Asia: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...12/302940/?P=2
:( :( ...
I've merged Al's thread on the Vita TV from the other forum with this one, might as well keep it all in the same place
Good news!
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/09/...ng-the-sticks/
"You are able to use touch controls with PS Vita TV after all, although it doesn’t sound like the most intuitive or natural of systems. Instead of flicking or tapping as you would on the Vita screen, you press L3 or R3 to activate a pointer, which can then be moved around.
It will be interesting to see how well this works – I can imagine that it would work brilliantly for some games, but rather poorly in others, and some games will still surely go unsupported due to stick movement instead of touch simply not being a viable option.
This comes from a FAQ on the Japanese PlayStation website, which also confirms a few other things including the transferring of save data between TV and Vita and that you’ll need a network account for video services, naturally.
Oh, and it has 1GB of memory built-in to get you going."
Aeralys wrote:
More importantly Sony has no plans to release the VITA TV in the Western market. This may also reflect why some Western developed games are not supported at launch of the device.
Taken from the Sony release statement of VITA TV in the PDF I gave a link to above.
PS Vita TV will be available first in Japan prior to any other regions, on November 14, 2013, at a recommended retail price (RRP) of 9,954 yen (including tax).
Why would Sony start a worldwide advertising campaign for a product if it only intends to sell it in Japan?
I think Sony might be able to manage a system software patch that would fix any control incompatibility [whatever they might be] with some VITA games, as the system is under two years old.
Sony must of set some control design parameters that had to be adhered to before the VITA's release, and since Studio Liverpool was SONY owned, you know that those control parameters would of be followed.
The way I see things panning out is the PS4 gets released end of Nov 2013, then VITA TV will be released to the rest of the world some time around Feb 2014, by then a system update would have been implemented that fixes any control problems.
And by March 2014 the Wipeoutzone is buzzing with people playing WO 2048, plus PURE/PULSE + DLC all on a big screen with a PS4 controller.
All setting new records for these games, as the new PS4 controllers fixes a know dead spot in the sticks, which Sony reports will be of most benefit to RACING GAMES :D
Slightly OT, but still relevent to both the VITA TV and the PS4.
The specs for HDMI 2 have finally been set, since HDMI specs can be changed in system software [you don't need to get new cables] any HDMI equipped device can have it's software written to take advantage of the new protocols, which if you look at the specs, you will see some pretty amazing stuff will be possible.
And I expect Sony to take full advantage of these new spec with both the PS4 and VITA TV.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...2-0-explained/
Don't get me wrong. I wasn't saying never, but as you say I certainly don't expect it'll show face here until PS4 is available globally along with DS4 Support.
Even so I'm going to hold my breath and hope as all of this is a void argument for most of us until 2048 shows up in a confirmed compatible game list.
Well seeing the PS4 controllers emulate the controls on a VITA, plus more, I'm really not that worried about Sony possibly screwing this all up for we Wipeout tragic's
It would take some really Herculean effort for them to purposely stuff it up.
Did you read my last post on page two? They do have a cursor for selecting if it is touch screen specific. It ay be a bit longer to select a course, but looks like it will work now
If it's built in a way that there's some master conversion script to translate VITA controller input from DS3/DS4, then every VITA game should work, like how emulators work on a PC and the GameCube Gameboy Player.
It still strikes me as odd, or at least suggests there's a good reason why the compatible game list even exists and does not include 2048 and Uncharted.
Yes JABBERJAW I did see your previous post.
I don't know?
I'm in a quandary
Am I becoming as RUDE as the current generation?
I could write brutal essay on the topic
I think I might have to
Just tom make bad spelling Guood, Iff U No what I meen.
R U ready 4 it :brickwall
GEEZZ, I think a little bit of LANCE crept out.
[Not a bad thing]
Well, I got Vita TV from Japan, but it doesn´t work in any way. I even cannot transfer a downloaded PSP game from the PS 3 to Vita TV or play a Vita game (that should work) due to local restriction. I guess these services will be made available when Vita TV is available here. So, I hope to be able to play at least the WO PSP games. As for 2048 I doubt they will do anything with this game since it is very unlikely to make it sell better then.
GUYS GUYS GUYS!!! Wipeout2048 is now supported on PS Vita TV!!!!!!!
Hyyyyyyyypppeeee!!!
Cipher
Wait, what?! Really? That's awesome! I'm assuming we'd have to update the system first?
It's via a hack apparently, but there's quite a few people on places like NeoGAF reporting that 2048 works.
Hope this is true, if it is I may have to resurrect my 2048 beginners tutorial ;)
Yeah, i just got a tweety telling me
Here's how; http://hackinformer.com/PlayStationG..._patch_v1.html
Come on Sony! Let us have our fun officially already!! It works, so why not *snif snif*
I might give it a go tho, hopefully they don't patch it by then >.>
Cipher
Right, but there's still no way of bypassing the stupid HDCP that I know of without buying things I can't get here, so I can't record anything off it.
A simple HDCP splitter does the job (That supports HDMI 1.3 (not the others)), i ordered mine lol, now to order a PS Vita TV when it's on sale :p
i bought this one; http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Powered.../dp/B004F9LVXC
(Funnily enough, it was cheaper for me to buy it on Amazon America than any of the european amazons..... talk about ecological footprint..)
Cipher
Yep, that's the thing I can't get here, Amazon AU doesn't do anything other than books, and I'm pretty sure that it'd cost a lot to ship it here.
EDIT: Oh, it's actually not that much for shipping. Well what do you know, not everything has stupid high shipping rates.
Bought a PSTV today and tried it. I can confirm that Wipeout 2048 works!!! Zooming in and out was a bit difficult to find out. Press L3 and R3 at the same time. Hold both L2 and R2 and move sticks together or apart to zoom in or out.
I wonder what will happen with next firmware update. Will they unlock everything or patch the exploit?
EDIT:
The hack is supereasy!
It is done on official firmware 3.52. You have to install an email client on your PC. Very easy. Then disable supersafe mode on Gmail. Also easy. This is done to make Gmail work on PSTV. Then just apply the hack with one mail and then edit system settings with one more mail to make all Vita games playable except those who use the front camera. This makes WO2048 run on PSTV. It is utterly f-ing amazing!!! I'm blown away!
online play isn't possible, i guess? can you show a video of it beeing played on big screen, plz ;)
I'm not sure JF, here's the tweet https://twitter.com/Staz117/status/647140992081096704
Has a short vid ;)
Cipher
that looks impressive XD i need just a pstv, right? i have the cartridge and a ds3 instead of ds4 should work too, i hope.
It does work online, he replied just now
https://twitter.com/Staz117/status/647525204479094786
And yup, ps vita, email address and controller, it's easier to control the menus with ps4 controller, but DS3 works too ;)
Cipher
I guess I will finally play WipEout 2048 for the first time. It's too bad that it's still through glitches that you can use the product how you want to use it. That mentality of control is horrible.
I'm sure this will be patched though, so once again if you want to retain that ability you'll have to get kicked off the network forever.