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21st July 2011, 09:16 PM
trackripper

Ship Discussion Thread

I went back through the pages and surprisingly didn't find one, so if there is one, sorry in advance to the mods :)
Anyway, thought I'd make this for general discussion about the HD/Fury ships. What ship do you use, and why? Any favoured stats among the 4?
Personally I use Triakis, Goteki 45 and Qirex for really tight tracks, although from what I can see, they're not commonly used among the best...? I used to use Feisar a lot as handling was really important to me before I realised I found it too twitchy... Also can anyone explain to me why AG-S is so popular? I don't see why it is :P
21st July 2011, 09:38 PM
tug_14

you did not look far ........
and to your question about AG s .... think a bit more and u'll find yourself why. all answers are already be discussed ...
"What ship do you use, and why? Any favoured stats among the 4?"
21st July 2011, 09:40 PM
trackripper

If you're talking about the thread "Is there a particular reason why you use the team you do?" I considered it, but thought I'd open this for more general discussion, since some of the mods were complaining about threads going off topic. If a mod deems this a duplicate thread though, sorry again...
21st July 2011, 09:48 PM
tug_14

WOHD have already gone out for a long time all problems and subjects one treated and reprocessed ......... search a little better among different subjects
22nd July 2011, 01:05 AM
ion harvest

Feisar isnt bad at all. I love it. But its not very fast and thats the only thing Idonot like about it. But in ramming situations its alright.

Now I use Mirage (bcuz you can BR anywhere with it and it gets air easily if you pitch up hehe) sometimes and Icaras all the time but in phantom i revert back to my first love - Feisar :D
22nd July 2011, 02:29 AM
JABBERJAW

I use ag under the assumption that you can accelerate to the first weapon pad first, hopefully get some mines. However, with people starting at different times, even in the same house! It doesn't work out like that. LAN please, or perhaps Bluetooth connection when in the same room should be added, seems like it could be done, since the vita will have that ability.
22nd July 2011, 08:27 AM
trackripper

i actually refuse to use Mirage because it is absolutely **** ugly... you need a paper bag over your head and a hidden PSN to be able to pilot it :P
22nd July 2011, 08:06 PM
Whizawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackripper

i actually refuse to use Mirage because it is absolutely **** ugly... you need a paper bag over your head and a hidden PSN to be able to pilot it :P

Looks can be deceiving, there are in fact some very fast mirage pilots out there. It seems as if the looks doesn't dampen the peformance. :p
22nd July 2011, 08:50 PM
FirstDave

I know the Mirage is a good allrounder but it looks like it was cobbled together using an old vw beetle.:|

Dave.
22nd July 2011, 09:08 PM
trackripper

I don't deny the Mirage is a fantastic ship, I've piloted it only a few times and it does feel nice to fly, but... AAAAAAAA MY EYES! SQUISH THE BUG! AAAAAAAAA
*runs off*
23rd July 2011, 02:51 PM
Challenger #001

HD version maybe. The Fury one is probably the best one of it's kin.

I have a soft spot and an understanding for those that fly glass cannons from my Fusion days as a Van-Uber pilot, but I've developed a love of the Qirex fury bizarrely (to some) for it's reluctance to BR. I don't like my ships too bouncy, and Sascha's fast and hard enough to be a decent all rounder.

Fury Auricom is fun to fly at times as well.
23rd July 2011, 03:07 PM
MrSmadSmartAlex

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackripper

i actually refuse to use Mirage because it is absolutely **** ugly...

Yet another reason why Pulse is superior; Zone and Concept ships. :D

edit: Is is just me, or is EG-X not that great in HD/Fury? In Pulse, it's the best... :(
23rd July 2011, 03:09 PM
Challenger #001

But it takes so looong to unlock them! :(

Plus, Icaras and Assegai Pulse Concepts are just the HD ships :p
23rd July 2011, 03:10 PM
BooksmartDevil-

But but but...no D: The Mirage is purty!
23rd July 2011, 03:11 PM
MrSmadSmartAlex

Ah, yes, I forgot about that. The Icaras concept is much easier to use than the standard skin in Pulse. Better handling. :lol
If you get one ship in Pulse to 100000 loyalty, you unlock all skins for all ships btw. Still takes a while, but it's not too bad if you really like one ship (like I do with EG-X). ;)
23rd July 2011, 03:52 PM
trackripper

Actually I don't think the EG-X in HD or Fury is that bad, you just have to manhandle it round a course rather than guide it... And absorb often :P Otherwise it sort of holds its own.

Also, another thing, before I thought that with the Fury pack, all the HD ships were made obsolete; not so. I love the HD Qirex and Goteki45, big brutes of machines that handle better than their Fury counterparts IMO... Anyone care to back this up with some hidden stats?
23rd July 2011, 05:14 PM
Xpand

I actually beat a lot of lap records with the EG-X in HD.
To me the best is AG-S. It's just so well balanced! In every one of the WO series. And it's Fury mode! Dang that's awesome!!
I reached its max loyalty in HD within two weeks!
The one I can't stand is Triakis. When cornering is like dragging a mule with a hair strand! You know it's going to fail, but you try it anyway.
3rd August 2011, 09:12 PM
trackripper

I don't quite believe this, but after some experimenting, I find myself constantly going back to Mirage Fury. It's handling is somewhat unique, as the bulbous shape makes it roll in corners and I dunno... something about that just feels comfortable. If you ignore the looks, it's a fantastic ship...
Oh how I wish they made it better looking, even if it was slightly...
4th August 2011, 03:08 AM
Dusk118

I favor the HD EG-X mainly because of it's looks. It's chassis design isn't much different from the Pulse chassis, but the new paint scheme just makes it look so much hotter than it has to be. I don't care much about it's stats because I've gotten so used to it. I've even managed to take it around the Chenghou bend without hitting either wall.
4th August 2011, 04:40 AM
ion harvest

Mirage, those Arabs did a fine job with that flying carpet. :D
4th August 2011, 09:47 AM
trackripper

You'd think the Germans made it: it's functional, but not very good looking... :P
4th August 2011, 10:06 AM
MyNameIsBom

Feisar Silver Or Goteki 45 Silver does the job for me, the silver ships feels better then the normal and Fury versions for some reason
4th August 2011, 11:04 AM
trackripper

Erm... You do realise that there are silver versions of both the HD and Fury ships right? The silver isn't a seperate ship, it's just a paint scheme...
7th August 2011, 10:27 AM
goddessloviatar

I used to use Mirage exclusively, but naturally I migrated towards Icaras once I started playing online. Now I'm more experienced I've started exploring the other craft again, but I find that the other craft with supposedly better handling than the Icaras actually seem less responsive. Yes the Icaras has a large turning circle, but I find the initial response to controller input is more rapid on the Icaras.
8th August 2011, 04:58 PM
trackripper

I know what you mean, the Icaras is responsive but the rate of turn isn't great, whereas ships like the EG-X, which supposedly has the same handling stat as the Icaras, feels a lot slower with the steering.
17th August 2011, 10:25 PM
Carson

I'd actually say the Icaras+ feels twitchy to me, even compared to a high handling ship like Feisar+, which I've only recently migrated over to. After using Furymau for a good period of time, I forgot to pick a ship before an online race started and ended up completing it with a Feisar+. I turned out that I actually liked it.
The way I figure it, if you're on your airbrakes, you're slowing yourself down. With Feisar, you don't have to be on your airbrakes nearly as much. The 80 shield stat is just an added bonus along with the improved thrust and speed that comes with the Fury version. Pretty well balanced, if you ask me.
Of course, most of the ships available are still fun to race with in their own way. You just need to treat them a little bit differently. :P
17th August 2011, 10:41 PM
trackripper

Anyone else here find Mirage rolling even when you don't want it to?

I was on 18 health the other day, in a furious Sebenco Climb SR race with weapons flying, went over the peak, and Mirage BR'ed by itself. Then I got hit by 3 cannon shells. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

The Icaras+ is really really responsive to initial touches, but if you use it on say, Sebenco Climb or Sol 2, you find that as soon as it gets into the turn, it's... a bit unwieldy. Feisar+ is VERY twitchy, along with Qirex+. Furymau strangely isn't that bad, and Assegai+ is the polar opposite of Icaras+. Mirage has the balance in turning ability IMO. Decent response and decent turning rate.
18th August 2011, 01:11 AM
Kyonshi

First of all, if you guys want to see what Mirage is fully capable of, you'll watch Dark Phantom 89. Because Mirage = Dark Phantom 89. Even when you see it, you can't believe how solid he is with it. He's actually the one who i think will win the WO Cup, and i dont doubt him at all.:)

Mirage is one of the best ship around. Already a good all rounder in HD, the Fury version is just a giant leap in term of balance and proven performance. I used it for a very long time, and even with my immense love and long-time dedication to FEISAR, Fury Mirage is fierce competitor that i can always thrust in moment of doubt. My other favorites are: HD/Fury Auricom, Fury EGX and HD/Fury Harimau. I can't withstand Piranha and AG-Systems. Yes, AG-Systems. Everybody uses it and i dont really like to follow the herd like a sheep. :P I prefer putting myself to the test with unloved, difficult ships instead of using the easy AG-Systems path. But no, i still won't touch Piranha, its an aberration :lol
18th August 2011, 01:43 AM
amplificated

dp89 already lost to bazzman32 a round or two ago :/
18th August 2011, 03:11 AM
Kyonshi

Holy ****. Im falling from freaking high :( DP89... WHY THE HELL DID YOU DO THIS TO ME??1!!11?!?

Nah just fooling around :) You're an awesome gentleman and pilot and you'd deserve the champion title thousand times, pal! :D:+
18th August 2011, 04:03 AM
amplificated

He was quite disappointed as well IIRC. Oh well
22nd August 2011, 10:29 PM
Challenger #001

The twitchiness of the Qirex+ is precisely why I like it so much. It's difficult to get used to after the smoothness you need to demonstrate when flying the Triakis or Auricom for example, and even the FEISAR and Mirage are smooth curve style ships. You're gentle with them, take it slow. Qirex is a lightning-reflex ship that you have to be on your toes with all the time. But the fact remains is that if you harness that twitchiness, it can take corners so tightly it defies belief. Scrubs off a lot of speed, but the Modesto Heights Reverse right-hander spoon curve really lets it shine. It's the only track I can outright give Dark_Phantom_89 a run for his money on a weapons off race besides Mallavol.
22nd August 2011, 10:32 PM
trackripper

Broke 30k loyalty with Mirage today. So much for never piloting it due to its looks. :P
2nd place is Qirex, followed by Feisar.
22nd August 2011, 11:09 PM
Colonel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Challenger #001

It's the only track I can outright give Dark_Phantom_89 a run for his money on a weapons off race besides Mallavol.

Racing at Mallavol? I want some of that!
22nd August 2011, 11:14 PM
trackripper

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right...

...now it looks like I'm spelling it wrong.
23rd August 2011, 08:22 AM
F.E.I.S.A.R

I'm more for turning and technique,so I don't see the 7/10 speed stat as a disadvantage. If anything,it can even be turned into an advantage.
I don't use the FurySAR much because it...just looks blocky(from the ship point of view)
AG-Sys,I use occasionally, but I don't use the FurySys
I seem to be a sucker for HD ships.
So,I mainly don't use the FuryRex,FuryCom,FuryMau,FuryRage,FuryRas,FuryKis,F uryNa,Fury45,FuryX and FuryGai...
7th March 2012, 12:36 PM
MegaGeeza22

I just tried the fury assegai out... i love it! iv been doing speed laps with it and iv broken all my old lap records with ease.
Its a shame the leaderboards arent working, im in the best form ever 8)
I will still miss Qirex though... ;)
7th March 2012, 01:16 PM
Dark_Phantom_89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyonshi

First of all, if you guys want to see what Mirage is fully capable of, you'll watch Dark Phantom 89. Because Mirage = Dark Phantom 89. Even when you see it, you can't believe how solid he is with it. He's actually the one who i think will win the WO Cup, and i dont doubt him at all.

Mirage is one of the best ship around. Already a good all rounder in HD, the Fury version is just a giant leap in term of balance and proven performance. I used it for a very long time, and even with my immense love and long-time dedication to FEISAR, Fury Mirage is fierce competitor that i can always thrust in moment of doubt. My other favorites are: HD/Fury Auricom, Fury EGX and HD/Fury Harimau. I can't withstand Piranha and AG-Systems. Yes, AG-Systems. Everybody uses it and i dont really like to follow the herd like a sheep. :P I prefer putting myself to the test with unloved, difficult ships instead of using the easy AG-Systems path. But no, i still won't touch Piranha, its an aberration.

I've only just seen this, and I would like to express my sincerest gratitude for your kind words Kyonshi. It's much appreciated. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyonshi

Holy ****. Im falling from freaking high :( DP89... WHY THE HELL DID YOU DO THIS TO ME??1!!11?!?

Nah just fooling around. You're an awesome gentleman and pilot and you'd deserve the champion title thousand times, pal! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by amplificated

He was quite disappointed as well IIRC. Oh well

Ahh yes, the Quarter Final match. I lost because I am a complete novice when it comes to anything other than Phantom speed, and Bazzman beat me fair and square in those classes. In hindsight, I know that things could have been handled a lot better, but I was very competitive back in those days (too competitive if I'm honest.) They say that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and it was probably for the best that I lost that match. It exposed my weakness and showed that I'm more of a one-trick pony when it comes to HD. Phantom is the only thing that I can do and place high on the leaderboards at.

Nowadays, I only play casually, around once a week for an hour or so. Just enough to stay acquainted with my beloved Mirage. Anyway, I've gone off topic for long enough, so back we go.

I can see why a lot of people give the Mirage stick, and I'll fully admit that it's not exactly the most aesthetically pleasing ship of the bunch. If you're able to get past the looks (it's what's on the inside that counts after all. :p) then it's a really decent ship. It turns beautifully, has a good centre of gravity and despite it's bulky appearance, is actually fairly light, so barrel rolling in it is a breeze.
7th March 2012, 02:12 PM
Colonel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Phantom_89

It exposed my weakness and showed that I'm more of a one-trick pony when it comes to HD. Phantom is the only thing that I can do and place high on the leaderboards at..

I have to disagree with you there mate, when ever I do any Racebox you're always right near the top of my friends list, regardless of speed class. And I've got some fast friends ;)

I had a bash in the Mirage the other week and it was a pleasure, felt very balanced and lacked the twitchy tendencies of so many other ships at Phantom. I also had a really good session in the Fury Qirex, so maybe you and Chal are onto something :)