Fastest Lap in a Feisar EVER - Giant Region Free Challenge!

HOW FREAKING FAST COULD A FEISAR GO IF A FEISAR COULD FAST GO?

Warning: The following challenge does not abide by anyone's feelings about how different versions of the games run.

HERE WE GO! This challenge is to see what the fastest single race lap time in a Feisar EVER can be. Every game from every region is eligible, I have selected what seem to be the 2 fastest tracks in each game. If you use an emulator to play on PC, that's fine, just mention beside your times how you are playing the game. Also for the other games please mention if it is NTSC or PAL(except for XL, 2097 and SE which are obvious).

Please choose only one of the tracks per game to enter times for, to keep the compilations easier. Remember to keep a paper and pencil handy as you race because let's face it, none of your Feisar laps will likely make it to your memory card!

Here are the eligible tracks from each game. Remember, Single Race Lap Times only.

WipE'out" - Terramax and Karbonis - Rapier class
Wipeout XL/2097 - Talon's Reach and Sagarmatha - Phantom class
Wipeout 3 - Portokora and Manortop - Phantom class
Wipeout 3 SE - Talon's Reach and Portokora - Phantom class
Wipeout 64 - Any track as fast as you can go!!!
Wipeout Pure - Exostra Run and Staten Park - Phantom class

This is going to be a six-month long challenge in order to give everyone plenty of time to warm up their Feisars.

Please just edit your first post to update your times, do not post more than once. If you change your mind about which track you want to enter times for in a game, just delete the first one.

At the end of the challenge we will see who has the fastest Feisar lap time in each of the above games, and who has the fastest Feisar lap time EVER. (Which will probably go to the Exostra lap time...perhaps!)

P.S. As in the WO Zone tables rules, NO cheats (Ex. unlimited hyperthrust, weapons, shield, white boost pads) are to be enabled for this challenge, only those "cheats" which unlock the speed classes/tracks. Thanks.

Depending on how many participate, I will try to make a standings post for each game and fastest lap overall about once a month.

Good ideas!

See you soon here. I've got only Wipeoutpure, but I'll be here

;)

Here is my post for my times, I will add in the times as I get them.

WipEout NTSC - Karbonis - 00:35:50 (PSOne with NeGcon)
Wipeout XL - Talon's Reach - 00:21:10 (PSOne with NeGcon)
Wip3out NTSC - Portokora - 00:25:00 (PSOne with NeGcon)
Wip3out SE - Talon's Reach - 00:21:64 (PS2 + Negcon)

this is really a sweet challenge for Feisar lover.
You can count me in for most of the versions

Ooooh, cool! And best of all, we've got plenty of time for this challenge - a God-send for me, as I'll be busy at college for most of the year. :+

I think Karbonis is the shortest track in Pure, then Exostra Run, but great idea for a challenge, I`ll be entering some times in this post. :)

I see your point in post #8 Medusa. :+ A lot more fun with the original instead of the greenie Pure tracks too.

Look forward to posting some times on this challenge, great idea :D

I should explain: I left Karbonis (and Portokora, etc.) out of the Pure tracks because they are "simulation tracks" if I am correct (please correct me if I am wrong), and I thought I'd leave the challenge as real as our favourite simulator can be...you know, no simulations on a simulation, if that makes sense. (Also now there is more variety of tracks, since each game does handle differently.)

I don't think this should count in the fastest lap EVER category, since it is essentially a SIMULATION single race lap. Make sense?

(Also, I left Fusion out of this challenge. I'm sure you all know why. Or can think of a few good reasons why...;))

WHY I CHOSE SINGLE RACE FOR THE CHALLENGE:
Simply because in a time trial you only get one turbo per lap and in single race you can sometimes use three on the same lap (although I've never played Wo64 or Pure so not sure how that works in those games???) So theoretically a faster lap can be done when racing a full field of opponents ;8

Arggh, I just got off my PS2.

Florion Height Track 1 for the win!
Wipeout 64 - NTSC Emulation
Klies Bridge
Lap time
22.7

Exostra Run, Pure: 19,76

Wipeout 2097 Talon's Reach : 19.5
Original ps + 2097 with Negcon

Hi All.

I Start this challange with Staten Park/Phantom/Feisar 0.20.78 p (single race lap time)

Read You soon!
CdRom

Here are my times: SORRY, THESE ARE TIME TRIAL SINGLE LAPS...:redface:

WipeoutPure, FEISAR

Staten Park : 19.52

Exostra Run: 19.68

SOON THE RIGHT RACE TIME :+

You'll want to redo those again.:turd
I don't know why single race :?

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3121/record178xo6.jpg
17.8 seconds. Phantom/TT/Klies Bridge/Project64 emulator (640x480 res).

Previous record: 18.2 seconds in SR mode (w/ Cyclone).

Time Trial is better for tracks like this with a very fast first section, because you get two turbo boosts per TT lap (one fired just before the finish line on the previous lap, one when you start the lap), while you rarely ever get two turbo boosts per SR lap - you might get three in a SR lap, but you cannot use the third one on that track anyway.

Klies Bridge is a mirror image of Talon's Reach, but the starting grid is perfectly straight, making it slightly faster.

I don't think ignoring stick2trax and taking a shortcut at the big first hill would make much of a difference on this track, at least not with the Feisar. It wouldn't be illegal because there are no buildings to clip through, but the missed speed pads and the hard landing make it not worth it imo.

"you get two turbo boosts per TT lap...you might get three in a SR lap, but you cannot use the third one on that track anyway."

I disagree, it totally depends on the "luck of the draw" (otherwise called the weapon bias of the game?) and how many weapon pads you hit on the way. On my Karbonis V WipEout time I entered above, I used 3 turbo boosts on that lap (and hit the wall on one of them, so a faster time on that is definitely possible).

Yes, with TT you are guaranteed 2 turbos per lap, but you can get more in single race. (At least in the races I have tried.) Practice means...you have more chances to pick up triple turbos!

Besides single race separates the men from the boys...er, women and the men from the boys - requires more skill to keep your cool in a single race than a time trial, no?
(see my above post in which I stated reason for single race lap, if you want)

But this is all beside the point, back to the challenge at hand...

Yeah, well, this isn't a keep-cool contest, but a lap time contest. ;) ;)

Also, I got three turbos ONCE in ~2 hours, and got quaked into the wall before I could use the third one. My times stagnated at 18.2 and I couldn't get them down for the life of me. Thusly...

"I got three turbos ONCE in ~2 hours" Yes, and that's another reason this is a six-month challenge;)

Perhaps I named the challenge a little too loosely, however once this is over we'll know what the fastest SR lap can be won't we? (And maybe then someone will start a Feisar TT challenge for whatever game and track it was.;) ;) )

Anyways nice time Brother Laz, you are teaching us all we ought to give WO64 a bit more respect!:o
P.S - what does "w/Cyclone" mean?

...we are getting a bit off "topic" here, more times anyone??

I started a Feisar Phantom class 2097/XL TT Spilskinanke Challenge, once.

A bit too tightly focussed and brief for your purposes, though.

Wipeout64
Not emulated - Nintendo 64 console (PAL)
Feisar / Klies Bridge / Phantom / Time Trial mode

19.0

Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2

John

PS: Sick time brother laz, how did you do it? I took every speedpad and used two turbos.. :o

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Medusa

P.S - what does "w/Cyclone" mean?

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Cyclone is a reward for completing the weapon challenges, it doubles your weapon damage. This doesn't do much for your lap times, but occasionally you may get a thunder bomb and drop it and eliminate some drone behind you that might otherwise have quaked you. Who knows...

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Quote:

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Originally Posted by Auri

PS: Sick time brother laz, how did you do it? I took every speedpad and used two turbos..

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I must admit it was a very lucky run, as you see on the screenshot it's a 0.3 second difference with my previous best time.

The most important things are:

> Don't swerve all over the place, and try to take corners sharply. Any speed up located at the outside of a bend should be approached from the centre of the road. (This applies especially to the one at the crest of the first hill, which I'm convinced they put there to make you drift to the outside and lose time)

> Critical section 1: cutting the 90° left hander at the bottom of the hill. Pull up immediately after going over the crest and fly across the terrain. The straight section after the turn is long and slow, so you absolutely have to skip some of it or you'll die of old age before you reach the tunnel. Unlike on Talon's Reach, this doesn't involve flying through buildings and violating stick2trax, so feel free to ignore the official track layout.

But don't get greedy and attempt to skip half of the track. The Feisar isn't a Piranha, all you'd achieve is a hard landing followed by an uncontrolled dive into the tunnel. Also, do not attempt to break the long distance flight record. Taking a shortcut is fine, but get back onto the track without delay. The Feisar will stay afloat for about a second without losing speed, but then it stalls and falls down like a brick, killing your lap time. This is very important.

> Critical section 2: take the long wide left hander as tightly as possible, then as soon as the right wall drops away, turn hard right and use your second turbo! By using your turbo here, you can stay under turbo power until you're almost at the line. Don't wait too long to activate the turbo, or you'll crash at the upcoming bend.

The final bend can be a bit tricky because you're going very fast and are likely to hit the outside wall, the pitlane divider, or end up swerving all over the place. The bend itself is short and sharp, so a short tap of the button will suffice. Just be sure to do so very early; and hope you come out on the left side of the track. Oversteering here causes you to swerve and lose all of your turbo speed.

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If you do both right, you get a lap time between 18.5 and 19.0 seconds. From there, work on nibbling off a few tenths of a second here and there until you can consistently do 18.3 laps. At that point, it's just a matter of doing so a few dozen times until you get lucky and everything happens to go your way...

when i ll have time to do it i will move your post to the sticky thread about piloting tips of Wipeout 64.
Because this is very interesting and must be shared to everyone but a bit off topic here
Thx for your description Brother_Laz :+

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Just copy it over, and leave the original here in this thread, please
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Mission Clear Major Lance:cowboy

Ok that sounds good. I will try the things you mentioned.
I already did many of them and I constantly do 19.0 at least. But 17.x wohooo, that's good. I don't think I can beat it.

;) Yeah I'm 100% sure I won't beat it either (aren't I humble??).

When I started this challenge I thought for sure Talon's Reach or Exostra would take it. Now I am wondering, will Klies Bridge have any real competition???

Heads up everyone, I will do a standings post on January 31 (if all goes well!) just using everyone's best times so far. Look for me, I'll be at the bottom!

I'll try this afternoon again on klies bridge, I want to get closer to laz' time. when I did mine I thought anything below 19 would be very good..

So we have had about a week to get this challenge going, and these are the standings for fastest FEISAR single race lap time:

1. Brother Laz - WO64 (emulated) - Klies Bridge - 00:18:20
2. Asayyeah - WO 2097 - Talon's Reach - 00:19:50
3. iL Nik - WO Pure - Exostra Run - 00:19:76
4. alterego - WO Pure - Staten Park - 00:20:78
5. insertcoin - WO64 (emulated) - Klies Bridge - 00:22:70
6. Medusa - WO XL - Talon's Reach - 00:22:70

Regards to those who posted some great Time Trial laps but the challenge is for Single Race lap, so those laps are left out. Looking forward to seeing more times and perhaps seeing Klies Bridge lose its first place???

Next standings post will be February 28th and standings on each game along with overall fastest lap will be posted.

( Brother Laz' time is 17.8 in TT, ruuuuuaight? )
So I have to do single race? I thought TT is ok too.
Then I try single race and get three turbos hehe.

oh man i suck! i downloaded a PC version of Wipeout XL - i was using a keyboard!!

Talons Reach - 24.8 >_> lowered this to a 22.1 - still not fast but getting there

Sagarmatha - 26.6 <_<

I NEED A GAMEPAD ;_; if i get those games and neggie off Skipper in time ill update with my faster times off the PSX. ;)

auri: Yeah, but I only used Brother Laz's SR time if you look close! And you may even get more than 3 turbos eventually on one lap;) . I got 4 turbos on Talon's Reach the other day, but my lack of practice and control meant one really wasted opportunity! Oh well. If I could just get to the point where I can control 2 per lap it'll be a slight miracle...

The Gracer: Don't worry, you still have about 5 and a half months!!!

oh...excellent! and medusa - trying to control a turbo with an ergo keyboards clicky keys is like...flying a retarded sheep on acid! Again!

Ok I get it, SR only.
That will make me have to practise so I don't waste turbos into other ships.

Don't forget to try and use a gamepad with project 64 too!
Xbox 360 gamepad FTW!
(I don't own an Xbox 360. Microsoft are EVIL!

New time: Klies Bridge
21.4

Hey Medusa! Your "How freaking fast could a FEISAR go, if i FEISAR could fast go has made it as a quote!"

New time, Exostra Run Pure AU
20.61

Nice times! (Darn it, I did a 21:6 on Talon's Reach and I'm still the slowest!!)
(Yay made the wipe quotes again! At least I can shoot my mouth off. If only I could shoot my FEISAR off as well...)

Here's my contributions:

Wipeout - NTSC A - F3600 - Paul Jackson - Dual Shock (Analog Disabled)

KARBONIS V: 35.7
TERRAMAX: 37.2

Wipeout XL - NTSC A - F5000 - John Doe - Dual Shock (Analog Disabled)

TALONS REACH: 21.6
SAGARMATHA: 22.2

Wow. I pulled out my old copy of Wipeout 64 - hadn't been played in awhile but still in good shape - and on my first few runs I did a

0:20.7

on Kiles Bridge. And ever since the closest I've gotten was 20.8 and I worked my you-know-what off for that one.

Whaaa, crazy. Put it back on, that you know what thing and try more! :)

Kiles Bridge update:

Unbelieveable how I was able to shave off one-tenth today. I feel maxed out.

New time: 0:20.6

Holy Crap:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1...0040rg5.th.jpg

I think I was really lucky to get that time. O_________________O;

Congrats RJ : sweet 20.1 :+
Sub 20 possible on KB ?