Gran Turismo PSP/ Gran Turismo 5

Well I've been playing GT5 heavily for about 4 days now, and to be perfectly frank, it's dull. Only in the same ways that its predecessors were, but this time it's much more of a disappointment.

I've always enjoyed the GT games, I've played all of them almost to completion, but this one really frustrates me. The load times are huge, the menu system is cluttered and confusing, there are far too many sh*t, slow cars that you're forced to use, the licences are a pain in the arse, there's little sense of speed (even in the really fast cars), it's full of glitches, and – criminally in my opinion – the graphics are thoroughly underwhelming.

But most of all it's just f*cking boring. I've crawled my way up to A-Spec level 15, got a few licences, bought, won and tuned a load of cars, and won some races. But it's left me feeling like I've wasted far too much time in menus and stupid events.

I was planning on buying a decent Logitech wheel etc. but I can't be arsed. Last night I turned it off and put Wipeout on… I was racing within a minute of the game being on, every event – regardless which type was exciting from start to finish. It's a thoroughly polished, great looking racing sim with a nerve-shredding sense of speed. To put it simply, f*ck GT.

P.S this rant got a little out of hand as I was writing it, I'll still play GT with my girlfriend (she won't play Wipeout), but any fears that it might take over entirely have certainly been allayed.

I'm Level 32 A-Spec and Level 36 B-Spec and I already made 60 000km lol.
All Licences Gold, and Special Events execept 2 S.E of S.Vettel with the Redbull X2010 (1 Gold, 1 Silver and 1 Bronze lol).

I made a video to show what is Gran Turismo 5 for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd9Ry0waEEY

Hope you like it :)

ps. Happy New Year! :D

Ah, GT5 How I love ye! :D
So far, I'm A-Spec level 28 and B-Spec Level 20 and my god am I loving this game!
An incredible feat on playstation IMHO, good thing my WOCup opponent has dissapeared off the face of the earth or else I would have been in BIG trouble :P

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Originally Posted by Colonel__Gaddafi

Well I've been playing GT5 heavily for about 4 days now, and to be perfectly frank, it's dull. Only in the same ways that its predecessors were, but this time it's much more of a disappointment.

I've always enjoyed the GT games, I've played all of them almost to completion, but this one really frustrates me. The load times are huge, the menu system is cluttered and confusing, there are far too many sh*t, slow cars that you're forced to use, the licences are a pain in the arse, there's little sense of speed (even in the really fast cars), it's full of glitches, and – criminally in my opinion – the graphics are thoroughly underwhelming.

But most of all it's just f*cking boring. I've crawled my way up to A-Spec level 15, got a few licences, bought, won and tuned a load of cars, and won some races. But it's left me feeling like I've wasted far too much time in menus and stupid events.

I was planning on buying a decent Logitech wheel etc. but I can't be arsed. Last night I turned it off and put Wipeout on… I was racing within a minute of the game being on, every event – regardless which type was exciting from start to finish. It's a thoroughly polished, great looking racing sim with a nerve-shredding sense of speed. To put it simply, f*ck GT.

P.S this rant got a little out of hand as I was writing it, I'll still play GT with my girlfriend (she won't play Wipeout), but any fears that it might take over entirely have certainly been allayed.

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I share your frustration. I find the leveling system tha prevents you from entering events to be a ruse. Most events don't even help me that much with getting to level 21.

Having just gotten the game, I have to say I am not wholly impressed by this latest effort by PD. It is a good game for sure. Some of the events are kind of fun, and I’m loving the course maker even though it is limited in what you can do.

First thing I have issue with is the graphics. The cars look good, the levels have surprising detail, and overall presentation is pretty good. However, shadows seem to have been overlooked in QA, and that does not help the game load any better as it struggles to compensate the textures to provide the best possible frame rate. Level loading should be done by the time you get into an event, but it still has draw distance loading and directional camera loading problems. It does slow the game ever so slightly, but only really is a hindrance when you are in a pack of cars trying to get in a better position.

Second is obviously the cars themselves. I love the fact that PD put in over 1000+ cars in the game, and with automotive history, that equates to a lot of vehicles. But, somehow most of the 600+ “standard” cars seem like PD didn’t even want to include them much less give them any thing more than a spit-polish graphical update. They are also the odd man out in terms of what you can do with them, such not being able to change your wheels(rims) to performance ones, lack of ability to take to photo travel, and no in-car view just to name a few. I would rather have all the cars be premium, and deal with lesser number of available vehicles then have 86 skylines, 45 silvias, and 30 different variants of a Daihatsu. They should have focused on the new and the historic vehicles and the “standard vs. premium” thing wouldn’t be necessary.

Third is kind of two things. One being the leveling up you have to do in order to not play something you shouldn’t be. I find it to be condescending and insulting to the player that this even made it in the game. It also makes licenses absolutely useless as far as game progression goes. I mean really, if I were to acquire a very expensive powerful car because I raced my ass off for it, I should be able to use it, not have an artificial level cap I need to progress to first. Gah! So Frustrating! Second in this is this B-spec mode is also hampered by these “limits” imposed by the game structure. It makes it not fun, a chore, and boring all around. Get rid of the leveling structure and the game would be “GT”.

Fourth and last is the entire menu setup. Who thought gamers would want to accept and re-accept again for almost everything you do in game. It makes it time consuming, boring, and your more than likely to alienate people who will just find it frustrating and turn it off. Sure it looks pretty, but functionally it is a nightmare. Many of the menus could be combined. Car delivery should have an accept all option, and you would cut down on all the useless “OK” buttons you have to press to get anywhere.

Like I said GT is a great game and I will be steadily trying to get all the SuperGT vehicles in my garage, but there is a lot of work still needing to be taken care of on PD’s part.

Give it some time, it will grow on you.
As a veteran of the series i was really disappointed too but i now enjoy it! :)
Also, playing it with a wheel is definitely how the game was supposed to be played, keep that in mind...

Just curious if this year GT5 will have DLCs (e.g. new cars, new tracks, etc.) and that the course maker would be more user-friendly, just like in MNRacers. :dizzy

Just a little video. It's my first ^_^
A trailer will rise \o/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AivsYm6aX2Y

Anyone wanna level faster in this game go to seasonal events then bonus race - I only did 5 races, went up 9 levels (12 - 21) and got about 3 million credits! The xp/money there is INSANE!!! Now got the GT Honda I wanted and thought it would take months to reach! Also in seasonal events are leaderboard time trials!

And I think the game rocks! Of course it doesn't feel fast after playing lots of Wipeout but it's a great feeling if you use the cockpit view, turn off all the auto driving **** and racing lines etc. just turn up your tunes and enjoy driving cars in locations you can only dream of! :D More non-race track locations would've been cool though...

@MENGKESHI: Yeah, I raced in the Bonus race #3 and got third place in a Citroen C4 WRC. The two other Bonus Races... are hard. :(

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Originally Posted by MetaKraken

@MENGKESHI: Yeah, I raced in the Bonus race #3 and got third place in a Citroen C4 WRC. The two other Bonus Races... are hard. :(

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Hey MetaKraken, Yeah I know what you mean. I didn't do week 1 but the NASCAR/Nvrburgring race was strangely hard - I had about 4-5 goes before the competition closed (I only just found out about bonus race) but I could only get 9th before it closed :( Have had no problem getting first in any of the others (weeks 2-3) though - I think it's more about upgrading your car than having any particular racing skill... I did that Citroen WRC one too and also came 3rd... But then I installed all the turbo upgrades and the gold medal came no problemo! This week's (week 4) final bonus race looks really fun - GT cars on high speed ring!! :D

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Originally Posted by MENGKESHI

Anyone wanna level faster in this game go to seasonal events then bonus race - I only did 5 races, went up 9 levels (12 - 21) and got about 3 million credits! The xp/money there is INSANE!!! Now got the GT Honda I wanted and thought it would take months to reach! Also in seasonal events are leaderboard time trials!

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Wait until you reach lv.35, then you'll see how crap the xp system is.
I've just golded EVERYTHING last night , except the last 3 endurances on A-spec, and i'm only lv.35...
So if i want to reach the final race at lv.40 i have to race the 24H Le Mans 4-5 TIMES! (according to GT planet and the XP required to gain the levels)
The only really bad thing in the game is the whole B-Spec idea, the XP system and of course the NO save option during endurances.

Seriously i gave up last night at the thought of platinum.
It doesn't prove how skillful or good someone is, just how much days he/she lost just for boring grinding.
It requires so much grinding that the game should be called Grind Turismo 5... lol
I prefer to do time trials on Nurbugring all day just for fun rather than racing 5 times a 24h Le Mans race with no save option...
Just my thoughts...

I've had a month away from the game, playing the God of War Collection and practising for my short lived time in the WipEout HD Cup. Going to try and get back to it tonight with my wheel set up.

This might make or break it for me - if I don't find it compelling enough to keep playing, it'll be going in the trade-in pile.

Funny you should say that Foxxy, I've also had a break from GT recently by plaing some Blur for the first time in months (Which is just great) and NHL with my buds (Once again great stuff), My wheel is not set-up anymore and cause I'm lazy I can't be bothered to set it up...If I was desperate to Play GT it would be set up right at this moment...that makes me sad :( GT5 is an incredible game but I guess it can't last forever, Pretty gutted about the longevity, I don't appreciate a month and a half into a GT Game release to be 94% in. The driving and racing is stellar...the game itself not so much.



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I'm doing my 4th 24h Le Mans of this week on B-Spec. Almost Level 40 here. about the seasonal events... they are not that hard. tonight I'll probably try again the last gold remaining on the S.Vettel Special Event... Suzuka. only silver until now lol. Driving the Redbull X2010 it's like playing WipEout 2097 with the Piranha lol

Just got all golds in the licences with my trusty DS3. I have to say I was a little disappointed, with the S Licence especially, I was expecting much more of a challenge there :/
I swear they used to be much harder than that...?

Same here Yeldar... License S is probably the easiest :(

...and they force you to use the skip recovery force in a lot of the licence tests :-

I still want a wheel + pedals though, I want to feel the Nurburgring :mr-t

i didn't use skid recovery... only on a special event. Top Gear with the Lotus Elise. PS. Nurb... It's SO awesome :D

Yeah I haven't really touched the Nurb much yet except for the AMG challenge...mmmmthat was nice :)
Still only level 16 so I can't access the last one yet. Grr.
My friend ruined the steering/front bumper on my TVR Tuscan RM yesterday after I spent all my money improving it :brickwall

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Originally Posted by DreamyElf

Wait until you reach lv.35, then you'll see how crap the xp system is.
I've just golded EVERYTHING last night , except the last 3 endurances on A-spec, and i'm only lv.35...
So if i want to reach the final race at lv.40 i have to race the 24H Le Mans 4-5 TIMES! (according to GT planet and the XP required to gain the levels)
The only really bad thing in the game is the whole B-Spec idea, the XP system and of course the NO save option during endurances.

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Yeah sounds bad, we'll see when I'm at that lvl but I'm planning on bonus racing/playing online to get a spec to 40. Getting b spec to that lvl sounds like a nightmare and I don't know if I'll ever bother... No save during 24 hr le mans? You guys need some snacks and nappies lol

If anyon'e into drifting, then I have a newly created track known as Drift City. Check it out. ;)

And if anyone's into racing, I have a firstly created track known as Sky Peak Circuit, which is good for vehicles with speed and grip. :D

This is the first time that I'm giving one of my cars to my friend (who is from Japan) as a gift, to make them happy. :D

I said I'd loan one of my Japanese cars to a girl at work because she can't find the right car to get through one of the Japanese championships. I told her not to trash it, so fingers crossed she hands it back unscathed! ;)

Wow I didn't know you could do thing like this, that's brilliant :)

Yeah you can send one car per day. :)
I sent my precious Shelby GT350 to a friend and now he refuses to send it back! lol

Just a question; if your friend's profile icon is pink, would it mean female (seeing as how it's easy to misidentify on whether the pink icon from your Community list are identified as female players or not)?

Your wipeoutzone profile icon is pink :P

I think MK means whether or not something is pink because someone's profile is set to female, i.e. the game will set it to pink automatically, rather than just the user choosing pink. Not sure as I don't have the game.

Ah ok hehe sorry... I only have two friends in the game both with grey icons. I set my own profile icon to a Honda NSX! :)

Finally got back to some GT5 tonight and won the professional level GT Championship. Bit weird to get the "ending movie" at level 16, but hey ho - there's plenty left to play.

The AI is still pathetic, though - I ended up abandoning my race at Nordschleife because every time I got alongside an AI car I just got barged onto the grass.

Glad I won it in a car that was underpowered for the championship, too - an NSX at around 524bhp when the limit was about 70bhp more than that. :D

You've just unlocked the short ending, the real ending is after the Dream Car Championship and it is an amazing one i must say... ;)

I totally agree on the A.I., they drive so bad you must try to avoid them all the time. lol
Wait till you reach the Nurbugring GP on the Formula GT championship, there's a serious bug in which ALL the A.I. cars spin almost every lap in the S curve after the final big straight! :dizzy

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Originally Posted by DreamyElf

I totally agree on the A.I., they drive so bad you must try to avoid them all the time. lol

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lol yes i was doing the super gt race at fuji, got my way around them and was 1st going into the second lap, because that straight a fuji is massive and i was a little unsure of how well the car wanted to stop i was a little cautious going into the 1st corner, then Thicko A.I. decides its too much effort to attempt an overtake and just ploughs straight into the back of me, ruining my lovely yellow hat Nissan. :(

as japanese comentators would put it " WWAAAAAAAAA CRASHUURRRRRRRRRRR!" :lol

Yeah I tried the Formula GT. The FGT (Formula Gran Turismo) doesn't want to win, instead would rather spin out on every corner I navigate through. :(

same here with FGT races on a spec ive avoided them untill i can control it like the ai

winning the fgt cup with no aids on was too hard for my liking:twisted

has gt5 got these cars
audi tt
mr2
mg tf160

Yep, 3/3 :)

Looks like I managed to solve the problem for FGT Championship! :D

If you find your Formula Gran Turismo car spinning out, try turning on the Skid Recovery Force and ASM. This will prevent your car from ruining your chances of winning. ;)

Small bump here, anyone played the Spec 2.0 update + the DLC? Totally renewed my love for the game, just in the middle of the Tskuba 9 hour enduro and then all that's left is the final 24 hour race at the nurb. I done the other one with some friends. :D