To be perfectly honest I liked the old ones better... Sorry :)
But I'll live with them :) BRs seem much more consistent, and the like the community feature a lot. And the stats of course!
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My ghosts were still ON after the patch, as they were before. Cant see that any settings have reverted back or changed since the patch...
Also I just got the freeze on the lobby screen. Had to turn off the PS3 with the button on the backside. If it helps, here's what I did before the freeze:
I started the game for the first time after DLing the patch - checked that my options were allright - went and looked at the way cool statistics screen (and cried a little upon seeing my win/loss ratio online) - went online - clicked Join Game - started scrolling down the list and it froze just as I reached the last visible listing on the screen (I could see from the scroll bar that there were plenty more races in the list).
I really like the new track select grid: putting the reverse tracks below the forward tracks makes it much clearer when you're selecting a reverse track. Before the update there were a good few occasions when I accidentally selected a reverse track when I thought I was selecting a forward track
the speedlap problem is def. solved Paul, no more hangups.
yup ghosts on, no more problems. At least in the single player, dont know about racebox.
I have same problem as Okam, game crashes when scrolling through the available races, and reaching the bottom.
online is overrated anyway m8...muhahahahha...stupid joke I know...paperbag of shame ON.... :paperbag
I'm afraid the Vista pads are not completely gone. In a 8 player race I crossed several lit up pads, heard the little bell but no pickup appeared.
I guess the servers were groaning at that moment since everybody was trying out the patch, so I'll withhold final judgement on that :)
At least the permanently off pads are gone!
Girl feedback:guitar:guitar:guitar
Speaking on behalf of girl racers, patch is good, i like it.
Have campaign ships been made more shiny in the game and the select picture more blackish.
They should put special option in just for girls to do barrel rolls by pressing L3 as we have longer nails and LRL is too hard for us.
well done to the programmers.:guitar:dizzy:dizzy:dizzy
BRs are so smooth to put, awesome ;)
My only complain is that when I want to choice music track on the pause menu, the selection is too bright, so I can't see which album I'm on. But I guess that's my pre-war cathodic TV :)
Thursday where are you!!! :)
After the patch, I encountered four problems that others have already described earlier today:
1. My control settings were reverted back to default (I think?)... all other settings were properly remembered, though
2. Game froze after finishing a speed lap session (with 0 laps finished, I just wanted to test out the new track/ship select/loading screens somewhere)... had to reboot my PS3, but luckily my save data didn't become corrupted *whew*
3. Game froze again while quickly(!) sifting through the race list in the lobby (I was looking for a specific host, so I just hovered over all the rooms that said "RACE IN PROGRESS" to find it), so I had to reboot my PS3 and fear for my save data again! :eek Luckily everything was okay, but I instantly made a fresh post-patch backup of it, just to be on the safe side.
4. I noticed _huge_ video lag when someone was eliminated anywhere near me (at one point the ship right in front of me ran into a bomb and blew up, bringing the FPS down to under 10 for a second or so)
Other than these I'm loving the new patch, albeit I didn't get to see much of it due to Wi-Fi access point problems. :( Gonna have to get back to exploring it tomorrow.
EDIT: Forgot to add, I haven't failed a single BR since the update! Biggest thumbs up to whoever fixed that. =)
when i got wipeout HD that crashed like 10 times over the first two days then it never did anymore, it kinda fixed it self.maybe thats whats happening.
I wish you could pick what music track you want while in the multiplayer lobby
Ive been saying that for yonks also Haydn. I have to go offline, then back offline, to pick my music track.
@ Sny
its just crashed 3 times when I've been in the online lobby just going up and down the lists of players.
Hope its down to increased numbers.
A little list of things I noticed about the 2.00 patch:
+ BRs work virtually perfect now
+ the stopping power of mines seems to be reduced ever so slightly, not sure about rockets
+ the changes to the online menu are very handy
+ the lighting seems to be slightly crispier (most noteable on sunny tracks), could be my imagination though ;)
- there seem to be some menu elements affected by a strange shadow overlay, which makes them appear dull, such as: the progress bar in an online lobby (starting race, etc.), the campaign event images in SP campaign, the platinum ship models.
- while the display of how far along a game is (at the online/join game overview) comes in handy, the words RACE IN PROGRESS stay on a little too long, as compared to other valuable info such as the hoster's name. How about adding a little icon for 'RACE IN PROGRESS' so it doesn't have to flicker back and forth?
- the stat on 'photos taken' is broken for almost all players I have talked to, mostly displaying several thousand photos.
- I don't quite see how the 'nudge' system is supposed to work... :paperbag
Frankly, I prefer the old ship/track selection screens, but the new ones are not that bad.
The statistics are impressive, but it lacks colors. I know the wipEout HD theme is grey/blue-green but if you could use yellow for gold medals, at least use every possible colors for the other statistics (stacked bar with only 4 colors and more options ... very ugly).
Also, I didn't took > 1000 photos. 10 at most ! The stats are wrong.
I tried an online race, and BR were getting out pretty easily. Thank you all.
I've noticed some pauses during gameplay too (racebox, phantom)- is that niggle back from the dead also?
Other than that, cool upgrade! The only major downer was the readme file...how naughty is it of SL to tease us like that? ''Fury is out now to buy........'' Who the hell wrote that? Is it Zicos revenge for all the hate mail?
So far no problems for me apart from the dark campaing menus and ship skins ( they were platinum and now look black).
A few things i dont get it:
- Why do i have 16590 photos taken?
- Favorite ship is definitly wrong as it does not represent the ship usage time, or my most used ship which is Assegai.
Also the Race total is for what? Racebox races? Or campaing aswell?
i havent had one issue all day...in fact all of my gripes have been addressed :D....totally pumped for fury in 2 days!!!
My photo count is also off kilter. It looks like there's something off with the byte alignment.. 8k-"number-of-my-photo's" seems to be what it is showing..
Also, my ps3 consistently freezes when I scroll through the available online hosts when they exceed the displayable amount. What I find strange though is that the audio just plays along. That means the software is still in control of something but it doesn't respond to input anymore.. At least not noticeable.
Greetings,
Here are my post-2.0 remarks:
1/ Zone Mode
Slowdowns / Framerate drops noticed during Zone Mode. I played 7 zone rounds on Analpha Pass after the patch had been introduced, and noticed around 3 slowdowns per Zone round mode played.
[Note that i reach between 64-70 zones per Zone round]
2/ Nudge
May anyone kindly clarify to me the use of the 'nudge' feature?
3/ Black color background in campaign
I truly dislike to background color of the medal screen in the campaign. The black color is simply ugly, and does not suit my Elite gold medals.
Unlike a few here, I have not had a freeze yet.
To be honest, the one thing in all of these patches that I've really wanted is a fix to race-devastating trackside objects. It feels like the track walls just arent big or tall enough to contain your ship in Phantom - it's very frustrating when I'm hurling around corners at some speed, only to snag a post or some kind of track-side object, stop dead and be hurled backwards, totally destroying my race. And how did it get past the checks to write "HD Fury is available now"...it isn't! Even though I knew the date, I still quit after reading that and checked the store. Grr.
Also, what's with all the bugs and gameplay choppyness? I love Wipeout HD, and the clearly passionate dev team, but really, who the hell is checking this stuff? I've never known any other title with so many issues and problems needing (and caused by...) patches.
...Only a few days till Fury though, that's something (though I can't play it for 10 days as I'm going away! ARGH!).
You have these pictures before entering the grid with the race events... Like Meltdown, Headrush... They have a ship with some logos on it, and there are some sound effects playing. Not sure I can explain better what they are. They are the things you cycle through right after pressing "Campaign" on the main menu.
What I'm saying is I remember them having more vivid colours before this update, just like the platinum skins of the ships were more shiny in the menu before this patch as well.
For example, Meltdown's background was actually white, and the decorations/text also I think, were purple I think (don't have HD up and running atm.)
Now it appears there's a grey fog drawn over them and the platinum skins. I personally would like that to go, thanks :)
After a few more races i ve noticed some hicups.
Hi,
after the 2.00 update i encountered massive frame drops
while playing online. anoying. once smoothly,
now like a "Feldweg". Hope SL will speed it up again.
I occassionally watch TV now while piloting at phantom.
Thought this was a patch...
regards
For me the freeze seemed to occur at the bottom of the screen, like it couldnt handle the actual scrolling bit - was it the same for the rest of you?
Several freezes scrolling online lobby. Music continues to play but the PS3 doesn't respond to any input other than hard boot. :(
i also got a freeze while scrolling the lobby today
Almost every color scheme has this kind of thing / effect at a constant
distance away from the craft (moving with the craft). But only in
SUPER ZEN it looks wrong.
I like it.
But let me tell you something. WipEout HD's interface isn't professional
up to, well, my standard. First off, it isn't clean. Anti-aliasing is missing
virtually everywhere. For example, within the Statistics all the track icons
are aliased. Secondly, and even worse, the interface lags! It happens
rather often that I select the wrong menu coz of lag. Same holds for the
menu popping up when pausing a race. If you go through the menu,
switching some music options or whatever, the menu lags. Why?
And please, bring back the semi-transparent menus. The new coloring
(i.e. the contrast) looks way off, esp. when pausing the game or when
being in photo-mode. Just my daily rant. ;)
(Analpha? xD)
There are some huge slow-downs randomly distributed in time when
racing ZONE. They are game-breaking.
Far-views now runs as smooth as cockpit-view. That's a huge plus! :)
Everything moves more fluent. But there is a downside. The game now looks
much more aliased in motion. If you look in the distance you will see that all
the edges are pronounced like never before. Same holds in ZONE mode, esp.
the SUPERSONIC color-scheme now produces a rather aliased look. :( Either
this is the penalty for the improved framerate or there is a bug within the
rasterizer. I don't know, but it seems like that the polygonal edges are
computed without sub-pixel accuracy, they do pop. Something is clearly
wrong with the rasterizer. Here is a worst-case example; Pause the game
during a ZONE session and go to photo-mode. Now use one of these filters
and compute a screenshot. If you continue the game you will clearly see
that all the polygonal edges are now much *more* aliased than before. You
have to restart the game to get rid of it.
I know, that's why I am talking about it only. It was fine before whatever update changed it, they haven't changed it back since.
I agree with this, I don't like the pause menu so much anymore. It seems that everything that was a light grey in the menu/game got changed to a darker one... Doesn't look very good to be honest.
Well, overall, I'm quite happy with the 2.0 update. Barrel rolls are just....beautiful now. My times are improving solely from that, as I don't need to try to get as much air as possible to attempt one anymore, which allows me to not only execute the BR and get back to the ground as quickly as possible, but it's also allowing me to pull off BR's in places I usually had trouble doing so or couldn't pull one off at all. Sooooo happy!
I haven't personally had any real issues that I attribute to this update (other than the thousands of photos I've supposedly taken ha ha). I mean, I had a few laggy type issues while racing online, but that type of things happens sometimes anyway and didn't seem like anything out of the ordinary.
I was a bit disappointed to see that the in-game chrome skins look as they always did, as I'm partial to that black chrome look they're now sporting on the ship select screen (that many have complained about...TheFrostE knows the deal though ;) ) . I assume that black chrome look is some sort of mistake or whatever.
Didn't experience any speed lap freezes or scrolling freezes, as others have reported...though I didn't attempt any speed laps, nor did I scroll to the bottom of the list...ha ha.
Anyway, I think SL deserves major props for all that they've done and for being so active on this forum. SL has certainly earned my respect! Thanks! :+
Oh yes, some positive thinking before people think I am grumpy:
Thanks for fixing the weapon pad issue! I now get a weapon every time I hear the beep of the weapon pickup. In the situations where before I would've got none, it now takes a while longer than normal, but it works! It's still not perfect (IMHO it should be like in Wip3out, instantaneous) but it's much better than before. :)
The lighting has indeed changed, now objects cast true shadows :) See this tiny beam of light, it will actually affect an individual area on the ship, not like before. Awesome :)
And now some mitigated:
Fire effect has been downgraded on your ship, but it now shows up on all ships, not just yours. It is very ugly on your ship, but looks ok on the others. Sometimes it's barely visible in a race on other ships but the red light effect is always there.