WipEout HD Videos

Mediafire won't compress it either way. Regardless, it's over 200 megs so that won't work unless I pay for it. ...Plus, why .rar? .7z's far better. Go hug 7-zip!

It's not being interlaced, I just OCD over quality. See, most cameras record at either 24 or 30 FPS and most people don't notice the difference. Youtube downverts all videos to 24 FPS to save space, and runs them through a conversion process to try to make them smaller to stream better. The problem is, it doesn't check filesizes of the new, converted videos against the original upload.

I have actually gone and redownloaded videos I've uploaded. The converted videos are actually larger than my original upload, which is just plain *stupid*. My originals are at 60 FPS (and people definitely notice the difference between 24 and 60 FPS). They bring the quality down in an attempt to save space, but in reality it makes the video bigger, and then they serve the crappy bloated file anyway! Morons.

So yeah. I'm just gunna stick strictly to torrents for my Zone videos. Regular racing seems fine at 24 FPS, but Zone quickly starts getting confusing once I'm to Zen or so.

what's your capturing device? quality is.. well... not that great if we're analyzing HD quality, colors are slightly faded/desaturated as well as noise being in the vid, that could just be a capture setting though.
the vid also looks overly compressed, clusters of pixels are being assigned the same color creating the typical hard edges on color gradients, it's something youtube will do as well which is normal, but if the source is already like it, it's only going to get worse
i'll give it an upload to youtube and see what comes out of it

Cipher

EDIT; video quality looks approximately the same as the source to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYivM...ature=youtu.be

nice run btw :p

The capture quality is good. What I torrented is not the raw capture, that's still 2.5 gigs or so. That looks almost crystal clear (except for the white lines on the walls and floor of the track, that's the capture device's fault). What I uploaded is lesser quality, about the same as what Youtube has, but the point is the framerate.

Let me explain that. A movie doesn't actually move. What you actually see is a series of pictures shown to you at high speed, so fast that your brain just stitches them together and goes "whelp, that's gotta be motion".

The bare minimum for most people to switch from "this is a slideshow" mode to "this is motion" mode is 24 frames per second (FPS). 30 FPS is what most handheld cameras run at since the math's easier (most displays run at 60, 30 is half of 60, 24 is awkward and can cause noticeable jumps). WipEout renders at 60 FPS (well, 59.94, but it's close enough).

Instead of focusing on the quality of each image, relax your eyes and look at how smooth the motion is. Higher FPS means smoother, more realistic (or "dreamlike") motion, not a sharper image.

I'm complaining about Youtube because, even though the quality of each frame stays the same, it has to lop off over half the frames and even after doing that, after its own conversion process, the resulting file is actually larger than what I originally uploaded! Seriously, go find a program that lets you download Youtube videos and compare it yourself. It's just plain stupid! The quality overall is lower, but I'm talking about the quality of the motion, not the quality of the images


The capture device is an Elgato Game Capture HD. It's powered off of USB 2.0 and I think that's the main issue. 3.0 supplies more power and has a higher transfer rate. If you know of any alternatives let me know, but I will never, ever buy from Hauppauge again. Every device I've used from that company either has absolutely crappy capture output or the passthrough device is broken such that I either get a black screen or the picture's so distorted that it's unusable. I had an HD PVR 2 before the Elgato and that was just.. Eugh. Somehow it had hsync issues. I didn't even know that could happen.


Thanks, I did even better last night but I don't want to saturate the world with my uploads. <w< Gunna wait till I pass 100 to upload again. Believe me, I'll get there, I'm still getting about 3-8 zones further every night.

LOL, i know how a movie works, i'm a digital artist & programmer after all :p
so yeah....

anyway, i don't think the video or youtube is the problem, it plays silky smooth for me
There's 2 reasons why it could be choppy for you;
1) you're able to capture & process more frames per second than the average person
2) you're computer hardware, try playing the video on a totally different comp with most importantly, a different monitor

as for the elgato, yeah... not the greatest out there, especially the USB, it's too slow of a data transfer rate, need them PCI or thunderbolt rates

Personally i use a Matrox MXO2 Mini with the PCI-express card (for my MacBook Pro) and Final Cut 7
Though it is expensive, it is superb quality and is not limited to HDMI or playstation specific AV in (MXO2 has RCA, s-video, component & HDMI)

there's also BlackMagic which have some great hardware as well, though i chose for the matrox since it is real time and supports a metric ton video formats (among which 1080PsF)

Cipher

Is there anything out there that'll capture 1080p at 60 FPS and supports recording raw frames? You're talking to someone absolutely obsessed with quality and with more processing time and storage space than any sane person really needs. I have a desktop that has a 3 TB HDD in it so there should easily be enough space to hold all the data. Said desktop also has an i7-3930k (twelve logical cores) running at 4.4 ghz so I won't need to worry about transferring the footage to another system to encode things.

Installing anything from Adobe is a flat-out deal-breaker for me. The device must be able to support capturing in a format that's easy for other software (mainly ffmpeg) to understand.


With the Elgato I'm using my laptop (i7-3840qm running at ~3.6 ghz via USB 3.0 to an external 4TB HDD. I feel I should mention that it's got an overclocked 680m and a 120 hz screen, too.). Things would be simpler if I could stick with this, but if PCI's going to be the only way to get great footage I'll be happy anyway.



Also, isn't it illegal for hardware to ignore the PS3's "do not record" flag? I thought that's why so many capture devices come with those Component cable converters.

it is indeed illegal to record the PS3's HDMI signal (the device needs to be HDCP compliant (which the matrox is) but the ps3 doesn't even allow recording of game footage which is sad), but i'm not recording the PS3 over HDMI, nor am i converting the component to a digital signal, it comes in analog via component and goes out analog via component, but if i wish i could hook up HDMI devices as well (ones that allow recording obviously)

as for device suggestions, if you wan pure 1080p @60fps, you're going to need a big wallet, i do think nearly all are PCI though, some may be thunderbolt

but there's a couple;

http://www.adlinktech.com/PD/web/PD_...&seq=&id=&sid=

http://www.aja.com/en/products/kona-3g/#techspecs
http://www.aja.com/en/products/kona-lhi/#techspecs

http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/prod...link/techspecs

http://www.datapath.co.uk/products/v...cards/visionav
http://www.datapath.co.uk/products/v...s/visiondvi-dl
http://www.datapath.co.uk/products/v.../visionrgb-e1s
http://www.datapath.co.uk/products/v.../visionrgb-e2s

http://www.datapath.co.uk/products/v...ds/visionsd41s

http://www.epiphan.com/products/dvi-...bers/dvi2pcie/

http://viewcast.com/products/osprey-cards/osprey-820e

http://www.sknet-web.co.jp/english/m...ification.html

http://www.sintroncorp.com/products/VDB-510N1.html

http://www.timeleak.com.cn/en/articl...id=2&ps_aid=18

IMPORTANT;

You'll have to check each one of them, cuz not all support audio/hdcp/HDMI Cable/ software/..., others compress the data while recording, so read the tech specs carefully
prices range from 700-2000$
so i'm not sure if you have that much over for it :p

as for your system, same CPU here, combined with a GTX680 CU II, 16GB 1600MHz ram and 7.5 terra disk space :p

ALSO!!! sorry for hijacking this thread
@nofew take it to pm if you have any further questions :p

Cipher

Another Reverse try....

Wipeout HD - Vineta K Reverse - Flash - #2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qky7l3811VY

I hope you liked it ;)

SeeYaa

Hey Cygate, as impressive as every one of your vidz!! Awesome, great skillz!!!! Especially the triple BR at the beginnig. Ever tried the double with the turbo?

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PRE or POST P.51 for this one? Would love to see ya online!! Greetz from vienna..

The Process of the Syncopia Glitch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCBqyRNDum4&feature=youtu.be

@liquid_kit

Thanks ;)

"Ever tried the double with the turbo?" You mean in the middle section before the tunnel? Not really!
The run was on Patch 2.10. On the same day i was racing this track with my offline and online PS3.
With Patch 2.51 i ended up with 25.97 seconds (have it also captured on camera with the same method)
After this i turned directly to Patch 2.10 PS3 and within 1 hour i got 25.58 seconds. Crazy but true.
But i´m satisfied because the old records from other racers were also made with pre 2.50 patched Wipeout.So equal conditions ;)

same opinion:
which sense do speedlaps have if the the game prevents me from getting good results??
that is just ridiculous...
btw: TH4YA1 - nice run!

@TH4YA1

...yes, at the middle section. Like to hear about the equal conditions!:D

:clap:clap:clap

my chenghou TT try...
despite of wasting lot of time it is #1...
overall, there are 8 br remaining - maybe someone is interested??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGg-zG1sSto&feature=youtu.be

meanwhile this video isn't up to date - hit all double brs after the roundabout...

reach-big7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCct-vlOUaE

He's the reason I use AG-Systems.

Time Trial, Rapier, Reverse, Sol 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kibUGVWQs_U&feature=youtu.be

Another one. Time Trial, Rapier, Reverse Tech De Ra.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxRksmpLB40&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFNX...ature=youtu.be

Beast, as usual :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp6XAhbgJYU&feature=youtu.be
same race as booney, also sub28

Dude, you are a demon at those barrel rolls!

just got the disk version of WO HD on the old patch and after 10 laps I have already beaten my SL on venom c.project(r) by 0.5s. Consider that I have spent 2 years chasing a WR on this track and I kinda feel like it has all been a waste. So, for those of you out there going for a WR, you HAVE TO buy the disk on the old patch and don't update.
I went from 15th to 8th in the world in a matter of minutes...

scarfrogers: And that's why you use http://www.wipeoutrankings.com/ to compare scores and not the in-game leaderboard!

So I got curious. Normally I play strictly in 3rd person view zoomed all the way out. I decided to try a Zone event in first-person view. This is my first attempt: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10...son_videogames

but then again scar, not everyone started playing on the earlier patches, i started a few patches on and was beating times that people set on 2.01 etc, its still possible, just extra hard work ;)

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but then again scar, not everyone started playing on the earlier patches, i started a few patches on and was beating times that people set on 2.01 etc, its still possible, just extra hard work ;)

2.50/2.51 is slower because of the handling edit. The rest are all the same; anything else is in your head.

The exception is Zone mode as the dynamics were changed in a few patches previous to 2.50.

The ranking site contains times/scores from all patches. Personally I think it should be wiped/archived because the game is completely different now, but that would rely on everyone using only 2.51 from now on.

Ok guys, another weird thing happened during playing again. This time something went horribly wrong with Icaras. It was like this for the entire duration of the eliminator and even after it had finished. Anyone else had this happen??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkg1d...ature=youtu.be

Just shows why not to use an Icaras in eliminator ;)

But seriously, that was weird. It's probably a one time glitch or something, I don't really know. Maybe to do with the pogo barrel roll thing...?

Yeah, I've had that happen a handful of times. Nothing to do but quit, possibly after watching your score go down from 599 all the way down to 0!

Being the mature person that I am, I spent a good 20 odd minutes watching it laughing. Thankfully I was in my Goteki while Icaras was suffering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy_vTSLv09Y&feature=youtu.be

This is why I hate Sol 2, along with Chenghou Project and Modesto Heights.

So I have finally managed to get a World Record. It has been 2 years in the making...! This is on the older patch and after a few days I have improved so many of my times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcYegrcLHec

Sorry about the end, got way over excited :)

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blocked in Germany. I will upload another version music free unless there is a way around this...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSy22...ature=youtu.be

ok now you got me ANGRY! lol not really, well done mate. Sign of a true champ right there.

I will give it another go when possible. On your tail old boy ;)

That last BR after the boost is impressive, great stuff Booney.

I don't understand how you make it look so easy :(

Oh well, better start racing and stop complaining :D very VERY nice laps. Everyone. It all looks amazing.

For those who like tournaments with many battles and explosions, special thanks to

ALovelyLilith, T-zig, onlykpop, RizlaBoyBlue bye !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIAPCaHzRN4

^Good stuff :)
Gotta love plasma blasting someone :D
was that from during the ozone?

Cipher

No, no ozone , only a normal game with my best friends and some regular players !!!
Thanks Cipher !!!;)

^haha, didn't think you could get nice full matches still

but i was proven wrong today myself, had some great races with Liod and Feydius :) (didn't record, lpatop is out of diskspace :p)
though psn was doing weird, chats closing on me.

Then this happened;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evO2VjUK9FU

Cipher

Ahhh your PS3 was vey angry:twisted, you must handle her better next time !!!:nod