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How did the old veterans (Old wipeout series players) feel when they first tried HD?
I have 6 years of background experience on Wipeout, and I play HD for a week so far and I feel terrible... I can't seem to race cleanly on Phantom. I'm always banging into the walls and overturning due to the habit of power sliding the ship in W3O and Pure. Modesto Heights and Metropia (weather reverse or normal) are impossible to me. :frown:
I gave up after 3 weeks, I was fed up of the same thing :lol
Came back a few months later when I found WZ :)
Darkdrium777 did a load of tests a while back. I think this was one of the things he was testing. Maybe you can ask him if he can dig it up for you, or maybe someone else can. I would but I'm not sure where to start searching, so someone else can probs find it quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjM1zw1z
I'm finding HD to be a godsend after Pure and Pulse. I find the handling to feel more floaty and it seems to make all the difference. (Ya hear that Colin Berry, I just called you god:redface:)
But, it is definitely nowhere the beautiful sliding of the old games...then again, now there's sideshift. I sideshift the snot out of this game, it seems to make the difference between good laps and wall laps (nevermind fast/slow...).
And Icaras...Phantom feels really slow in HD. I use Icaras because it has the highest thrust of the max speed ships. And also, the engine sound is quite similar to the W3O Icaras sound which makes me all warm and fuzzy with nice memories...
I'm sorry precious AG-SYS, you are just too slow in this game for me. :frown:
I have the same problem. AG-S just feels too sluggish so I don't really have much feeling of speed or momentum in it. If you like AG-S though, the Fury Harimau is very fast and nimble and quite a lot of fun to race with. But Icaras (HD) is prettier.
So I see I'm not the only one to be frustrated beyond reason...
Well, when you see the name Xpand122, that's me banging my stubborn mind into the walls in HD. :g
Modesto is just a horrible horrible track, few people seen to like it.
It's just so hard to string any laps together that don't involve at least one pretty major hitting of a wall.
Metropia can be tricky, especially reverse, it's the mag strip that I tend to fall foul at as it lulls you into thinking that it's straight when it's not, so you end up hitting the side walls.
AG-S Fury type is balanced very differently than the HD version, I've tried using it but find that the nose of the Fury version seems to stay higher, like the center of the crafts balance is weighted just slightly more to the rear so it tends to bounce around more, plus it's left to right handling differs, it's like it's balanced on an ice skate V, where the HD version is more of a U.
As for the relative speed tests of the crafts, I think it was Elhabib or Hellfire that did the original ones.
It was something like 7% or 15 kmph difference between Feisar & Icaras, but in the reality of a race this difference means almost nothing, you just have to see people like Wellington86 in his Feisar make mince meat out of opponents to realize this.
Why is it, that when I'm choosing my feisar fury ship (the zone one) in Ã* online lobby, 9 out of 10 times the feisar HD shows up? Can anybody tell me? It's quite annoying.
I was playing Wip3Out, Wipeout Fusion, Wipeout Pure and i didn't have any problem with sterring in "Pulse" nor "HD Fury", best of it is that, when i play a little Wipeout Pure on Phantom, later i'm better in HD... strange isn't it?
In Ubermall time trial or such, when I boost off the hill to do the super awesome shortcutty thing, I seem to bounce when I land. The time trial is on raiper speed, Harimau ship usually. (Tried with Feisar and got the same thing, though.) Am I doing it wrong? o.O
Either that or I hit the ceiling of the gatelike structure that's in front of you on that jump. (If you know what I mean, if any of that even made sense.)
It's ok if you bounce, just do another barrel roll if that happens :banzai
Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure the fastest technique for Rapier Time Trial doesn't involve the shortcut. I'll have a quick check then edit my post accordingly.
Edit: Yeah the boost-shortcut is definitely not the fastest method for Rapier Time Trial (or Flash or Venom for that matter) :)
Oh. o.o But that shortcut is so fun. :P
And I usually botch the next turn anyway. T.T I'll check YouTube for videos.
I think getting to chain 3 br's is a pretty fun trade-off, so not all is lost
Lol I just sent FlameCrow the video I made you a while back amplificated :P
:lol, I knew this scenario was familiar - even down to the Harimau! But I wasn't 100% sure about the methods without referring to the video, it's a bit different to SL and it's been a while
We all love lag-ramming, it's our favourite. But how about a different kind of lag, do we like him? I don't, he's a **** :brickwall
Since November or so, around 70% of the time I suffer to what is often major online breaking input lag. I think JABBERJAW (and Kyonshi perhaps?) have mentioned this before.
It sounds like a lame excuse for performing badly but quite honestly even if I win a race, that game just isn't enjoyable when this happens.
I don't know what causes it, but try deliberately delaying EVERY controller input (steering, sideshift, BR-input, absorbing, everything) by up to 0.1 seconds and see what happens to your racing.
I've tried 3 different PS3s, each in turn with a 50" Plasma TV, a 42" LCD TV, a 27" LCD Monitor and a random old CRT from a cupboards somewhere. I've tried 3 different controllers (2 DS3, 1 Sixaxis), both wireless and connected via USB. Nothing so far has made a difference.
This has never affected the offline aspect of the game, and sometimes online is lovely, plays just like it should, lag-ramming and everything (which is small-fry compared to this, trust me)....but 7/10 times the game becomes unplayable,
lamentable and impossible to enjoy.
Please help...I like playing online :(
Ditch the south and come to a place with real internet connections. :D
Have you tried seeing what it's like without being in a chat room?
Those are the only things I can think of...
I still wonder if I get this. I can do well offline but suck so badly online. I know that a lot of it is just that concentration fades for me outside of TT. But when you were just doing TT on a specific track and doing really well, and then you go online and just can't race properly, it does make you wonder. Sometimes I would have great sessions. Lots of fun - win some lose some. But after a while too many were crap and the good one were too rare, so I don't really play much any more.
But to know if it's affecting me I have to check somehow. So how do I test for this? With only 0.1 s difference I'm not sure I'd notice because it's so little relative to the speed I run at, i.e. at least 10 seconds just to get of the sofa, an hour to get out of bed, and half a day to wake up, so 0.1 s is like 5 % of the blink of an eye.;)
Makes quite a lot of difference in the world of WO though does 0.1s ^_^
I know. So how do I test for it to see if I'm getting it? It's not like I can do much I guess, but maybe if it happens and I can identify it then I can try restarting the PS3 or can notice a pattern as to when it happens.