Weapons and Tracks

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Originally Posted by Dimension

Yeah! Free Play, excellent!

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Indeed! What many of us like most about easy flying - don't worry, be racing. ;)

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And the new class slots right in the middle, that makes sense since it bridges that awkward "faster leagues/slower leagues" thing by slotting one in between, very nice.

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Yes, nice idea. Although making Venom slightly faster and Rapier a little slower might also have worked. But I am not complaining. One more class or not, honestly I don't care much. :) It's never been the different classes that got me hooked. I was mostly looking for Phantom and then sticked with that.

Ben

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Chill:
''one in between'', not blended
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Hopefully the new class will add to the longevity. Not sure whether they've toned the other classes to accommodate or they've literally just stuck another in there. Perhaps Flash and Rapier are equivalent to Rapier and Phantom from the other games, and Phantom in Pure is just uber-pants-wettingly fast? Can't wait if it is!

Where did it say there is a voice which tells you what weapon you have :?:

I hope there is one because i would never remeber the weapon icons for some time.

Well, if there aren't any voices for the weapons, you'd be directing your attention to them more than if there were. This would be a better tutorial than if they always gave out all the answers, right? Besides, I like the idea of having to learn these things over others anyway. 8)

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Originally Posted by Lance

Chill:
"one in between", not blended

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thanx for that. This will make the pilots starting way in the back more carful not to hit into the lower class, ya? :D

note by Lance: read it again. the CLASSES are NOT MIXED together. only one class of ships participates in a race. there are five classes: vector, venom, flash, rapier, phantom. at no time and in no location are any of the classes on track together with other classes.

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Originally Posted by Hellfire

Perhaps Flash and Rapier are equivalent to Rapier and Phantom from the other games, and Phantom in Pure is just uber-pants-wettingly fast? Can't wait if it is!

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I seem to remember Colin said Phantom wasn't exactely faster than before, so I'd stick with the idea of Flash filling the gap between Venom and Rapier.

Ben

I like the continuous flying idea - serious hypnosis, and may be possible to play while riding the bike in the gym. Dedicated zone tracks.....mmmmmm :banzai

As for Flash: A-Aaaah. Its a kitchen/bathroom cleaning product in the UK, but I`ll get over it. (Also Harimau reminds me of a well known brand of euro-confectionery. I may never be able to take this ship seriously, unless it seriously rocks)

Is it too late to change the Flash name? Can we choose some here, then have a vote? Please???

If I remember correctly, Colin said he wasn't sure whether Phantom was any faster than the previous versions, but it would definitely be fast enough. It could still be insanely fast, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. :wink:

I'm also salivating over the thought of dedicated zone tracks. Hopefully because of this they won't suffer from any of the problems of the tracks from Fusion, like slamming into ceilings or flying off the track *coughFlorian3reversecough*.

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Originally Posted by Hellfire

It could still be insanely fast, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. :wink:

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Man, that would be awesome!!!! You'd go so fast that sight would start bending. That would be sweet!!

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Originally Posted by lunar

I like the continuous flying idea - serious hypnosis, and may be possible to play while riding the bike in the gym.

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Me too. This PSP may help me get in shape again!! I'd spend all my time riding and playing!! :wink:

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lunar, it's too late.

the Harimau sure looks as though it will rock
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Ok! then it will be like Time Trial in wo64! Great! and therefrom the single lap ghost saves! :D

about the voice. already from wo1 I didnt like it - how did it know what weapon was coming before it was launched??! 8O
ok may b the crafts cummunicate wuth eachother ? :? but weren't they sabotaging eachother in fusion, the storyline anyway ..
the icons were allways enough for me 8) system I like the most till now is the 'warning' from 3/se but still say before launch! :|
bad thing in 3/se 2/multiplayer -> the voice will let your oppnent know when you've got quake or plasma!! :evil:
it'd be good if there was an off/on switch in gameOptions but if it's gone in pure then :robot I'm glad!
:idea: Idea i got is >> warning sound when missile is locking you, 'incoming' voice, different sound or/and blinking text when rockets/missiles fired (Not before)
-> gives you a split sec to dodge (try dodge missiles :mrgreen:) or use shield if you got one. for mines - keep your eyes Open!! 8O
may be also for quake ther'd be an 'incoming'_voice,_different_sound_or/and_blinking_text as just mentioned
but for the rest of the weapons use same method as for mines! ;)

btw came to think that even without a shock function in wo1, when hit by rockets or missile,
the violent movement of the screen makes for the most noticeable feeling of all wopeouts!
:) right?

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zargz, I figured that since the weapons pick up thing seems based on various electronical inputs (from different colour variations of the pads) enabling different pick-ups, a "supervisor computer" could easily collect all weapon related information and forward it to the ships on track. The internal computer then filters what information concerns you and hence knows which weapon could be fired at you next.

What I really miss in WO3 is different warnings for mines and other weapons. It would help BIG time to know whether you are going to run into a line of mines or whether it were best to thrust into the next turn in order to avoid rockets.

The best "wham, you're hit" indication for me were the great explosion sounds in 2097/XL. This, together with the screen shaking gave a pretty good impresion of what just happened. :) WO3 feels a bit awkward in this regard, since the sounds are still there, but the craft doesn't seem to respond physically to impacting ordnance.

Ben

your negcon doesn't shake but the ordinary shock d-pad gives you a formidable shacke-down! so yeah you can feel it! ;)
I can't recall the screen shaking on 2097, only on wo1 but I might be wrong .. :|

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The internal computer then filters what information concerns you and hence knows which weapon could be fired at you next

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Exactly >> could be fired at you! not will be fired at you with 100% certainty!
:x No way the computer can forsee the intention of the pilot !
or can it? .. in the not so distant future .. http://www.geocities.com/zargz/leenden/phm.gif ..

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The weapons system, as I see it.

Activation: All weapons are pre-loaded onto the ships. Passing over a weapons pad activates a specific payload onboard the ship, and illuminates the appropriate symbol on the pilots HUD.

Warning: The onboard computer system detects the incoming threat and issues a warning to the pilot.

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Originally Posted by zargz

your negcon doesn't shake but the ordinary shock d-pad gives you a formidable shacke-down! so yeah you can feel it! ;)

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Only I usually turn vibration off as it distracts me from the racing part. :)

G'Kyl: Riiiiiight! :D LOL!

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Warning: The onboard computer system detects the incoming threat and issues a warning to the pilot.

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*groan* well ..
I'm still not convinced, infoxx >> you get warning for mines and then after some seconds
you see them deployed and deployment as we know it is instant after pressing O-button .. :?
same goes for rockets and missiles .. :roll:
that's been buggin me since wo1 :D heh!

Praeterea censeo autopilotum esse delendam

Who says I was talking about Wipeout 1.

This is the Wipeout Pure forum.

Gee... I thought we were speculating about that.

Flash, I like the name, I chose it :P and no, I cant remember why 8O

I felt the gap between Venom and Rapier needed bridging, rather than bump venom up and / or reduce rapier we opted for a fifth class.

Weapons - My personal preference has always been to have verbal warning of which weapon was incoming, rather than verbal confirmation which reinforces the visual confirmation of which weapon you have picked up.
This is an issue which divides people, but for Pure you will recieve verbal warning for incoming weapons which are distinct, ie mines, rockets etc. The weapon icon tells you which weapon you have picked up.
We toyed with the idea of a female voice for incoming and a male for pick up, but for various reasons this was dropped.

As for the weapon system, I agree with mr Foxx 1000%

1000% huh??! 8O
Ok. then we wait'n see :mrgreen:

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so what voice did you go with male or female?