Even though some of my times are already in there (thank you!), I don't quite fancy entering in 240 updated times.
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Even though some of my times are already in there (thank you!), I don't quite fancy entering in 240 updated times.
Excellent Video I love thanks OSSAMA... I'm just disappointed I am not my nickname ... :lol
I'm sure Connavar could come up with a filter that only used Multiplayer times entered over the 4 speeds.
So that's only 64 times that need to be entered.
After all,you will only be playing online.
Those will be the only times that matter.
REDUCE it to ONLINE MULTI PLAYER TIMES to sort who races who, and how the divisions are sorted.
I edit my first post again to include the list of KGB (Worldcup Pilots), thanks KGB, great Job !
ENGLAND
kgb1971 ------ OLOuk -- -------- Judas
Hellfire ------- Andybob35 ------- Peh-Hok
Greenix ------- Wellington
Amorbis ------- Lunar(English not Italian:))
FRANCE
EPSILON ------- Nyctalopian
Kanar ---------- Spoon56
Kaori ---------- Wotan998
Asymeel ------- Kingheim
SCOTLAND
Stin
Osama bin haydn ;)
PORTUGAL
Xtriko
CANADA
mjolnir74
Redscar
Darkdrium777
NETHERLANDS
Mad-ice
SaturnReturn
Luxoflux
AU-NZ
Blackwiggle
KIGO1987
djKyoto
trentdf
JAPAN
Aka-sho ------ suurenko
rerealm ------- ossama
Edelweiss ---- reach-big7
hn9354
U.S.A
TheFrostE
cerium
feisar31
LOUDandPROUD
ITALY
alterego
il_NIK
NORDIC
Tordmulen ------- Zoth-Ommog
Chaos80
JJPAP
Soccermums
Ohh, i realise that i didn't said i was interested :redface:
You can add me :banzai
I know of 2 others that intend to fly for USA and they are both damm fast.
Same for Italy.
Where the hell is the Spanish Team?
count me in if there's room :)
Same here, hope there's still enough space in the Dutch Team?
I don't remember using the Blue AG-S livery. :P
It seems like PORTUGAL and Xtriko is the only player there. Hey Xtriko, does Spitfire2097 play HD as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwiggle
This diagram sums up my idea for the tourny setup.
* Groups of 4 play each other twice, groups of 3 play each other 3 times.
* The winner of one group, plays the runner up of another.
* as you can see there are multiple teams of the same nationality in the same group, but only the highest ranking team can go through, even if they finish 1st and 2nd, guarenteeing theres not multiple teams of the same nationality after round 1.
As you can see ive included flags that currently arent present, and used the european flag to replace portugal as theres only 1 player!! obviously the nationalities taking part can change.
If anyone else with tourny setup ideas can make an image from it, we might actually come to a conclusion very quickly.
I'll also race this potentially fantastic cup for team Netherlands if the setup and qualifications allow me :)
Awesome video Osama!
If it's nation based, why not do it like the Super 14 Scoring system?
Every nation team plays everybody (say over teams minus one weeks), and the team with the most total points gets 2 points (1pt for a draw).
Then at the end of it the top 4 nations vs each other in sudden death (1v4 and 2v3), then the two winners vs in final.
Gives a chance for everybody to play everybody, no?
Lets say for sake of argument, that all teams propsed are filled (including multiples) then thats 16 teams.
We'll need to play 15 games before leaving round 1. :paperbag
Im all for as many games as we can get away with, but if people want to race all 16 tracks against each team... thats a REALLY long tournament.
Can I be in the tournament? I fly for England :D
@Epslion: Well, I'm in, too! Plz
Though, Need to find some mates for what ... a joined Austria/Swiss/German team, maybe.
btw, IMO 1st round(s) should be something like soccerworldcup setup: n groups w/ m teams. First 2 or 3 teams advance to the next round. Than next n group w/ m team or direct head-to-head depending on teamcount. Would prefer a 2nd group round with semi and finals following the group phase. Maybe for the losers of round 1 and 2 there could be a special loser racing cup so it's not so boring out there. my euro cents. I that was already said ... >/dev/null
I am sorry to say this Osama, but I totally do not like this system. If you are in a group of very strong teams, you can be knocked out very early. Or I don't understand it at all? :paperbag
Especially because it is the first World tournament, we have to know how teams are compared to each other. See page 8 of this thread.
I suggested something like Haydn is proposing a while back. Personally it is my favorite of all the idea's. I have never seen a world cup where everyone plays each other, this will be a logistical and organizational nightmare and will take ages, lets just keep it simple PLEASE!
The whole point of a world cup is to see who is the best in the competition, if you get knocked out first round, tough! The favorites do not always win, the underdogs do not always loose (Denmark, Greece both came from no where in the Euro's). If England go out first round then fine, good luck to whoever beat them, it is their fault for not performing on the day.
Why do we have to make this so complicated, it is just meant to be a bit of a laugh.
EPSILON: Have you taken control of the list or am I still updating mate. :)
:lol Come and get me! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by insertcoin
IMO for simplicity's sake, have each country hold qualifier rounds from which the four best pilots will emerge (And backups for when real life takes precedence), and then from a random draw pit two different country teams together, have them climb a ladder this way until the finals.
And for those countries who have just too many pilots, use the division idea. The points don't add to those of the team competing for the world cup, but they still can be crowned winners of their division, with say an honourable mention.
@mad ice
to each their own :) no problem bud.
as exactly half teams qualify, we could easily continue the knockout system to determine 9th to 16th position. thats a minimum of 7 games each and a maximum of 9.
we'll then have larger nations coming in 2 positions though.
i guess i dont like pre-determined divisions. that means someones classed a weaker nation before we even start doesnt it?... unless im seeing it wrong.
Right well I've had enough of online for five years, not going to waste my breath screaming at bull****.
Not participating anymore, don't count on me. I'll stick to AI, at least stuff doesn't randomly happen with them on screen.
It blows, but I've had enough. Until something is done about laggy bombs don't count on me for any races.
Well, though I was born and raised in the USA, I'm actually 100% Portuguese, so I'd like to volunteer to fly for Team Portugal if that will help to even things out at all. I'll leave it up to you World Cup Organizers...Portugal or USA...either is fine with me. :+Quote:
Originally Posted by KIGO1987
2nd solution, I Update my first post when You add some new pilot ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB1971
Well i am not bothered either way EPISLON, though it makes more sense to have the list on page one. So if you want to do it then great, kind of silly doing it twice. I won't take offense.
By the way do you steer while Nyctalopian takes the airbreaks? :lol;)
Sorry KGB but i don't understand your post, can you explain please ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB1971
I personally favour Osama's system with the knockout style table. It might not be the fairest system but it'll be the most efficient.
I do have another idea to bring to the table, it is the idea of a tournament/league hybrid. Instead of going straight to a knockout where teams can get eliminated with only racing once, it'll give everyone a chance to score points and the teams with the most points move onto the knockout stage. I think this could be much fairer on the 'weaker' teams and still give every team a chance at the title. But with this would come lots of organisation and could potentially be very time consuming. I'm thinking of something like this with a knockout stage to finish it of the highest scoring teams.
Maybe more awesome trailers could entice more people to join in :lol.
I've attached a visualisation of my idea courtesy of Osama's already made table. There would be 15 races if every team raced each other, points would be awarded for a win or a draw. Very similar to a football league but with a knockout final. This is just an example and could do with some more thought, but I hope you get the general idea. The points on the table are not intended to favour anyone in particular, except for maybe Team England :).
EPSILON: Which bit do you not understand?
This one "By the way do you steer while Nyctalopian takes the airbreaks?" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB1971
:lol I think you know exactly what I mean.
What about the list though, It is up to date as of today.
If you would like to do it that is fine, I will delete the one on page 10. As I said It makes more sense being the first post on Page 1, and not hidden away where we can't find it.
Maybe it's: You are the weapons man, while your workmate is in charge of thrust and direction. :P
OK, I see (EPSiNYCTA) lol, yes we have no time to work at job...Oups, no time to play at work lolQuote:
Originally Posted by KGB1971
and for the list of page 1, yes it is more easy to see on this page. If there are a new pilot, post me a MP and I add it ^^
Epsi / Kgb you can add me for french team future qualification.
** et pas la peine de quoter mon post si tu postes juste après moi c'est inutile, tu vas t'attirer les foudres des mods **
advising Epsi to not quote me or someone else if he answers just after the one who posted ;)
im amazed no one else has posted an image outlaying their idea for how this should.
im not saying this needs to take place next week, but please, please, lets not leave this dead in the water.
Don't be surprised Osama, I already did! Looks that it was overlooked. I was thinking of combining that with your idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amorbis
Another thing we should be thinking of doing is a loser's bracket. If a team got knocked early on then they could still get a chance against the other losing teams. It would be a mini tournament for the losing teams or something similar.
+1 For the USA! USA! USA!
I've started preparing a thread which I think desparately needs to happen. But I don't want to post in case I'm stepping on toes. I'm hoping that if all goes according to plan that the proposed thread text can be viewed here:
Proposed thread at GoogleDocs
If enough people second the motion then I will edit the thread to make it as short as possible and post it soon. What do folks think?
That covers the basics.
I'll second it.
I really think we should use Connavars records site as a basis for rankings,it will cut out SO MUCH stuffing about with qualifications.
Just make it that those wishing to race in the World Cup have to have a certain minimum amount of records entered in the system.
What the minimum requirements would be to make ranking appropriate I'll leave open for further input from the forum members.
That looks very good SaturnReturn. I am in, anyway, anyhow.:banzai
It's time to Take some descision about this Fantastic EVent !
I'll tell you the truth ;)
I Want that this EVENT must be organize with best condition with best organizer.
My big problem here, is the language, in fact I have some difficulty to understand correctly in detail some post here.
And the WorldCup Buzz is not a joke, not a wind but it is REAL and this is why it is important to take the best descision about it !
This is Why I will delegate to members organiganiqation more able than me.
I Love Wipeout and It very Important to continue organizing the best this EVent with best possible conditions.
you have all participated in the development of this Worlccup and I do not live up to pursue it as I would like. Google traduction is a base but it is not enough for me to organize seriously.
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New organizer is :
- Mad Ice
- Kanar
- Osama (I wait his answer)
- EPSILON (I try my best)
and off course I'm not abandon this Worldcup but I want to appoint people to the challenge and especially skilled and at ease with English.
Now It's time to choose the best way, the best form of organization !
I hope you undersdtand my point of view of delegate it. ;)
WorldCup must live and lived !
If you have some problem, I propose to organize a big meeting between the organizers to make the best decisions and define the rules in detail.
to begin to be concrete, I propose to set a date (for details of this World Cup) in April ^^
If im needed, of course ill help out. :g
Damn, I needn't have bothered with my previous post then. Oh well, good luck guys. I'm sure you'll do a great job. Looking forward to the event :)