(SSGX Origins) Let's make a Wipeout game! This time for real!

Yeah, I don't know much about scripting but as far as race positions go, it would probably be just incremental placed raycasters in the track attached to fixedUpdate. I can probably pull a script from the racing game tutorial. Stopping them from going backwards would be harder, but there's probably a script out there. For C# Unity tutorials, check out the Unity Community forums, or the Unify Wiki for code samples.

Edit: For speeds, I haven't really gotten a set speed yet, because for my project I plan on having speed classes like Wipeout 64 as well as top speeds and accelerations for each car. Collision detection is a bitch. I have a ramp in my second track, the desert one, and the damn cars go through the track like its not there. I saw a Don'tGoThroughThings script on the Unify Wiki which is supposed to improve that, so I'll check.

As for AI, I haven't gotten that far yet. I'm still trying to get the damn things to stay on the track and steer properly. I'll attempt to get some decent in-game footage.

I've checked this script already ("Don'tGoThroughThings") and it does almost nothing, just when ship get through it's f****** it up somewhere up, but if it don't then it'll just get through wall as always...
btw. I have GUI speed/shield meter made already and u can check it out some pages back on this forum ^^

@Rotational_Aspect: I want to see some preety images too :P I'm really curious :g

Sadly there is not much to see right now, I am focussing more on the engine and getting features working before I make art assets. This means I am still flying cubes and cones around!!

The biggest job I am doing at the minute is bringing all the individual features together:

Ship selection system (Python version complete, almost finished a simpler logic version) - track selection would be similar too.
Basic weapons (laser, cannon, missiles etc)
Camera system (finished)
AI (a basic working node based system is finished)
Race start (i.e. 3, 2, 1 GO! etc) working and finished
Lap times (I have a basic logic version working that stores best times etc)
A basic hud- at the minute it just shows speed but once I design the cockpits I can expand this a bit.
Ship damage (I came across a bug in compound collision hulls so I have to compromise on this)
System to stop players (or inform them) they are going the wrong way (complete:rock)
Very basic race position system

I still have heaps to do, but now that I know what I'm doing with Blender its not an uphill struggle! I still have to decide the overall art style too, although I have an idea of what I want.

I do occasionally get time to doodle- here are a few of them below:

By the way dragiron, why not try Playmaker in Unity? Its similar to the logic blocks in Blender, allowing visual scripting.

My latest thoughts (lol)
I've just played WO Pulse and watched quake working and i thought: hmmm, if quake is flowing along track so precisely then it needs an curve to follow along... And then: probably if i could make such curve in unity with lenght value (somehow made work) i can make unity check for ships distances from the beggining of that line (which is counted in one directon only... don't know if u know what i mean) and using that to show ship's place according to other ships, and same stop it from going backward when distance from finish is growing... those are only my thoughts :P

zero3growlithe: your idea is sound, someone actually made something similar in Blender but it was very, very complicated and involved some crazy maths.

I'm rubbish with maths so I've gone with an easier option by calculating distance times speed- since I can now tell when I'm going backwards I can stop the calculation (so the player can't go backwards and still be in the lead!).

The other less accurate way would have been to count the track nodes as ships go through them- the more nodes, the further ahead you are-the only problem is this approach is as only as accurate as the amount of track checkpoints you have (i.e. if you had three checkpoints you would only get an update on positions three times per lap).

Blim! Another idea xD
Node based position checker as you said but improved with distance checking from closest node which player/ship passed, for example:
Ship 1: Is 20 meters from 9th/20 node and is 1st in ranking
Ship 2: Is 5 meters from 2nd/20 node so he's last (that means that when someone is on higher node he's automatically on higher position, then it is only metter of checking if another ship is in the same node, if yes, then it counts his ranking based on distance of another ship from this node)
Nodes will be set on straight parts, so if there is a turn it will need more nodes so position could not be mistaken in any way.
Sounds logic?

EDIT: Here comes imagination :P
Imagine two guys with grappling hooks racing in some kind canal or tunnel. Only our nodes are grabable so they need to grab nearest node to move forward, when they reach turn and there won't be any node to grab, both of them are finished... but if there was this one node in the "middle" of this turn and it was visible in straight line, they could continue.
Ok, but what about place? When one guy is on one node further, he is leading and that is obvious, but when they're both on the same node they have to assess who is further :g
That what i was talking about and that is how i want my script to work :nod

You are right- its weird as I had this discussion on BlenderArtists and we talked about the very same staged approach. Check it out, it may be useful: http://blenderartists.org/forum/show...race+positions

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I used it. It's pretty neat. But does it only enable 2D editing of the track? I.E. flat tracks? If not, that's ok because I can add the height in 3ds max. But overall it's a very nice tool. Really cool for prototyping the tracks.

Also I found a neat way of using fractal maps to create terrain. This will be much easier than modeling the terrain by hand and it has much more realistic effects:
Here's an example in blender using the default cloud texture:
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And the tutorial:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender...scape_Modeling

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@ Xpand: It works as displacement map from what I see :P btw. There is build-in terrain editor in Unity (brush type).
@ TrackEditor: Yes, there is one bug (i think): I can't run this program in any way on my Windows 7. Maybe that's the problem? :brickwall
Something like:
C:\Users\Zero3\Desktop\TrackEditor\TrackEditor.exe
The parameter is incorrect. error appears :|
@ Rotational_Aspect: There is some mind blowing disscussion on this site ^^

EDIT: F%$%$%#$%!!!!! My PS3 just showed me Red Light Of Death and died.... and again: FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU$%#$%#$%#$%#!!!!

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Nope, still nothing :| I have DirectX 11 and 9.0c August version (this one was needed for DarkGDK to work properly) and it doesn't work on this system but i'm sure this program is awesome as I heard what it can do so it has to be :rock

Mine works with no problems in Win7.... Are you sure it isn't your firewall?

Updated version is needed..
Try this:
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en...ylang=en&id=35

Mini update: making a HUD for some cockpit views- since my game has full 3d flight I thought it might be useful. Its only cubes at he minute but one indicates pitch, the other roll.

And sorry to hear about your PS3 zero3growlithe- is it under warranty?

@ Rotational_Aspect: Eeeeh, no... nevermind it as it's now YLoD so there is nothing to worry about :P.....*snif*...

Anyway, just uploaded my The Most Primitive AI Ever (node based) version of my game xD (those ships has veeery... "nice" turning capabilities... 1ms turning)
I'm at least happy with ship's stability i've achieved :)

@Xpand: This texture on your ship is not set correctly as i'm too lazy to do this in 3DS max and i can't set it in Unity itself to match ship's size :brickwall
Ehehehehe... 444 posts xD
btw. Before respawning your ship you have unlimited shield.

Very cool! I too will be going the node based route as it will be the easiest to do. You also have got the handling working well, so you are making progress!

The only crit is the collision detection- are all the normals of the track pointing the right way? I seem to be able to float through quite a lot of track areas.

Believe me that it's not track's fault that ship is getting through, something seems not right with Unity's collision detection system.
http://unity3d.com/support/documenta...ctionMode.html

Quote:

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For best results, set this value to CollisionDetectionMode.ContinuousDynamic for fast moving objects.

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Continuous Collision Detection is only supported for Rigidbodies with Sphere-, Capusle- or BoxColliders.

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Triakis had box collider and rigidbody's collision detection mode set to Dynamic Continuous and guess what... it did not work better...
It seems that everyone has to get used to it...

EDIT: Fixed!!! :P
@ Dragiron: You had some collision detection problems too, right? Here's the solution (u'll need to change some of your ships parameters if u want them to fly as they were before) In your "Edit -> Project Settings -> Time" change "Fixed timestep" value which is 0.02 now too something like 0.01 or lower (if collision detection problem still occurs). Hope it helps ^^
Be aware that it affects overall game's perfomance a lot!!!

Ah! That makes sense. The objects were travelling too fast, so the collision detection would 'miss' a hit.