Right, because we all know at this very moment that Evolution Studios is going to turn Wipeout into an off-road racer just to spite everyone that worked at SL. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapier Racer
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Right, because we all know at this very moment that Evolution Studios is going to turn Wipeout into an off-road racer just to spite everyone that worked at SL. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapier Racer
I am actually scared about what's gonna happen to wipEout. :paperbag :cold
Heh, why? Just play the other Wipeout games that you like - it's not like they're negated the moment a new Wipeout game comes out (even if it's a good game). Many people only like the first 3 Wipeouts for example (which is cool), and I'll enjoy playing Pulse for years to come (no matter if people say it's "dead" or inferior to WOHD (which it isn't!:D)). Let's just be grateful to SL/Psygnosis for the Wipeouts we already enjoy. :)
Because some peice o' :turd studio might pick it up and turn it into a casual gaming peice of crap (hopefully this isn't EA for god's sake), Bill Gates might flash his wallet of Doom and buy it out, making the fanboy bastards at school beat the hell out of me (and I'm outnumbered at least 34 to 1 :cold). Again, and it may cease to exist entirely. I can't really play wipEout anymore, now that SL is no more. Sure, it's melodramatic, but they are a huge part of my childhood, distracting me from my mother complaining about not being a single - parent dole dosser/ Queen of the Universe. So, I'm really defensive about this. And, considering that I wanted to work for them, it's even worse. Of course, it isn't anywhere as near as bad as what the former employees went through, but everyone handles these things differently, don't they?
Yeah, I agree that it'd be a shame if the Wipeout series went downhill, and it was pretty :turd of Sony to do what they've done. What I meant was that it shouldn't detract from enjoying the existing games that SL/Psygnosis worked so hard on. ;)
Like I said, knowing that SL isn't around anymore makes it too hard to play, for me at least.
Figures.
The one game i can really connect too, and it's cut short.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
:'(
that's really sad indeed ...
i'm going to buy bluray after all.
need to play more wipeout, i miss you guys, and i'm not even level 50 ! damn
see you online, and good luck to all SL staff !
The implication was clear, attempt to give Wipeout mass market appeal and downgrade the game in the process :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by RJ O'Connell
It's already easy enough.
Man, I haven't been active on the boards for a while, but recently got back into the habit of playing some Wipeout here and there, and decided to check what's going on in Wipeout land... and I read this. And to be honest, it hit me pretty hard. It's very rare for me to get emotional over anything happening in the business of videogames, but this news made me pretty uneasy. I pretty much grew up playing Psygnosis games and have always had a deep appreciation for their work.
Heartfelt wishes to all the people who've lost their job, I'm sure you still all have a bright future ahead of you.
Bear in mind there's still hope - a handful of guys were retained and a few others are on garden leave while Sony makes their mind up what to do with them. Torturous for those involved, but it does mean that proper development (as opposed to being outsourced to Killzone & Motorstorm) might one day be resurrected at Studio Liverpool.
There's a proposed piss up on the 28th Feb for the SL guys.
...and I wish I could go :P
and what is "garden leave" ?
We can only hope such a resurrection takes place. :|
It's supposed to be in late February, but no date has been set yet.
I'll probably head down for it, tho'. :)
Pardon the ignorance, but what is this 'piss up'?
lol crowd of people hitting the town, said crowd consumes quantities of alcohol, usually vast quantities. :beer
I havent been around for a while and what news to come back to. What an absolute shame that this has happened. I feel the merger would have been more beneficial if they had shed most of Evo's staff rather than those at SL.
Wipeout has been a mainstay of mine since the original 15 years ago, and is one of the games that has kept me buying the Playstation brand (the others, Air Combat and Metal Gear are gone and also going be the looks of things). Its a shame its ended like this, if Sony do pass the IP to another team to work on, no doubt it will go in a new direction and it just wont be the same. Ive heard time and time again the passion the staff at SL have for their games and gamers this has definitely shown through in what is their longest running series. I really do wish everyone affected all the best, I hope something good will come to all of them from what is certainly another in a long line of big mistakes made by Sony.
Infox, if you do go to the piss up please give them all our best and wish them luck for the future from us.
Well that sucks! :-
At least we still have the zone.
The programmers' at SL excellence I strive to achieve some day, and I don't even have to hope that they'll carry on at other companies and on bigger, better projects - with a track record like the WipEout series there's no doubt!
To the future..
I've read the following just yesterday;
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Originally Posted by gamasutra.com
it's good to read that problemsolver, thanks.
it hurts to think that a studio that produced such a quality game could go under.
The wipeout games have all been great they just don't sell for some reason...
Do sony own the rights to HD and any development team that want to update the game or make a sequil will have to buy the rights off sony first?
I can't really see anyone wanting to do that :(
Sony also fired two creators and lot of devs of activision. And i'm not sure that we can really said that cod mw2 didn't have success ! ;)
sony's commercial politics = :eek
I think it just didn't sell well in the USA [?]
Most likely the marketing dept of SCEA find it too hard a concept to promote any game in the USA that doesn't contain a gun toting Marine, gang member, alien etc, insert typical FPS.
The writing was on the wall when the added content for PULSE wasn't, and still hasn't been released in the USA.
Wipeout is the best game, but my god, it's had some absolutely terrible marketing decisions over the years that have really hurt it.
Usually because it has traditionally been the "Showcase Game" for any of Sony's new technology.
I suppose we should be thankful that there wasn't another Wipeout made especially for the PSP GO!.
That would of killed any hope of ever seeing another Wipeout again judging by what a huge flop the GO! has been.
I agree on how shameful it is that Wipeout gets next to no promotion on this side of the Atlantic. Look at what that did to the Amiga.
Marketing has nothing to do with it. Americans aren't known for having a well-developed sense of taste and, when it comes to racing, it's even worse. What do we like? Stock cars and ovals.
Seriously.
The problem for Sony is it's 3 Flagship racing titles:
-Gran Turismo 5
-Motorstorm
-WipEout
Some may say WipEout doesn't belong there...that's the source of the problem.
Both these games have a much larger fanbase(Albeit for different reasons) and completely overshadow WO and Sony doesn't give a ****, about trying to put WO back in the spotlight.
I think the fact that wipeouts not a "traditional" racing game is one of the reasons it's never sold very well
It's a shame because the the games are all great and don't get the publicity they deserve
I won't sign on this. Any of these games complement each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyKyle'sProtège
I'm really sad 'cause this...
All the best, and thanks for the great gift you gave to us before leave Sony!
And the hope is not killed now? Everyone who made WipEout what it is has left Studio Liverpool and gone on their separate road.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwiggle
The guys who loved their game have all left. What is left are the people who obviously didn't care enough about the game and closed the studio as well as passed a deal with DoubleFusion. You think these people will make another WipEout game?
Maybe someday, some of Studio Liverpool will regroup under a new name and make a new game as independents. But it won't be called WipEout. That would be truly wonderful, but chances are slim. There was one attempt: Quantum Redshift. And unfortunately it did not work well enough.
Sony was good for WipEout, it made numerous games over the years despite the low popularity, but now... Not so much anymore.
Well Putting the fact that Sony have clearly gone a bit loopy to one side; I think marketing defs played a factor popularity-wise. I have never EVER seen any kind of advertising for Wipeout. Never.
Everyone knows GT and MS was part of the deal when a lot of people bought a PS3 in the first place.
It's not the game's fault, it's just nobody has heard of it. we know it rocks :rock
Goes like this:
Random - "What games do you play?"
yeldar - "mw2, kz2, lbp etc... especially wipeout"
Random - "Wipeout? What's that?"
NOT LIKE THIS:
Random - "What games do you play?"
yeldar - "mw2, kz2, lbp etc... especially wipeout"
Random - "Wipeout? Oh yeah that crap racing game that I don't like because it sucks"
Gospel :nod
What i pointed with activision's redundancy is suppose to bring hope (not on the mental health of sony's marketing genious :lol) on a possible future wipeout ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwiggle
I'm pretty certain that a new cod will be released, so why not wipeout ? :)
would be good.
But i think you are a bit too optimistic there mate :/
QUOTE:
NOT LIKE THIS:
Random - "What games do you play?"
yeldar - "mw2, kz2, lbp etc... especially wipeout"
Random - "Wipeout? Oh yeah that crap racing game that I don't like because it sucks"
You know as well as I do, there's nothing wrong with the game.
It's just that it takes practice, and lots of it, to get good at it.
It would seem the populations of some countries are less likely to put the effort in than others.
So that last line with the Random is really - "Wipeout?" Oh yeah, it sucks that I'm crap at that game, that's why I don't like it.
I'm like that with FPS.
Did you even read his post? He said that people aren't saying that. Also, way to dismiss ENTIRE COUNTRIES' ability to play video games.
Hmm yeah tis true that a lot of people are put off due to difficulty etc... But nobody I have ever met (in England where it usually does okay sales wise (maybe??)) had heard of wipeout until I started my schpiel :lol
Only exception is my bro since he introduced me to it in the first place :+
Anyways, I really hope the chaps who were let go find something new and exciting to
do. Would be a shame to waste such talent. Still one of the best looking titles after 18 months? Yes. Achievement? Yes :nod
Because Call of Duty sells and WipEout doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by leungbok
No proof of that ! All depends what sony was expecting for wipeout sales !
If the last few games of the Wipeout series was marketed properly this outcome would of been very different.
Maybe in due time another installment might come back:?: