ahem... leaderboards? Anyone? Anyone?
I believe there is already a more generalised problem mentioning thread elsewhere. Maybe two.
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ahem... leaderboards? Anyone? Anyone?
I believe there is already a more generalised problem mentioning thread elsewhere. Maybe two.
there's voices that the leaderboards are working now.... can anyone check? i'm at work for many hours from now
nothing changed...
looks like *new* times get correctly updated on the global leaderboards, but I need to verify this myself (tonight, I hope/guess)...
Same here, it's been a week and still no update...Quote:
Originally Posted by novide
For those, who understand german language, that's
what i wrote in the german ps3 blog:
"Besonders gut gefällt mir, daß seit Fury das Leaderboard,
spricht die offline/online Bestzeiten und Rankings NICHT
upgedated werden. Von offizieller Seite ist zu diesem
Thema nichts zu hören. Prima, so kann jeder seine
Leistungen schön für sich behalten.
Weiter so, wir Wipeout Fans sind begeistert ! "
I'm pi**ed and angry, SL, Sony or to whom this
may concern. Fix it. :(
Just as long as everyone knows I am not ranked 148,000th in my Venom Anulpha Pass TT.
Glad to see your improving ,keep practicing :P
I'd just like to throw my considerably light weight into the subject in case any SL representatives get around to perusing the site. It's pretty annoying not having the leaderboards update.
done. :P
Got some new records, but still !%#*@ nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by invernomuto
The broken leaderboards are forgiveable - the complete silence on whether anything will be done to fix them isn't :(
I'm starting to get the same problem with Connaver's site. It'll take most of my times, but not my Venom Sebenco (R) TT for some reason.
Koleax, please check the records you added today for Multiplayer Venom Moa Therma and Ubermall (#1 and #2 times...?). I'm sure you have entered them in error.
On Moa, you beat Yeldar's time by 6 seconds (and his best lap by 6 seconds). The Ubermall time is believable except the best lap time stands out... (I would check the Ubermall time myself on the leaderboards but I can't get to my PS3 ATM). Be careful as there isn't alot of checking going on, it's up to you.
That claim came sooner than I expected! Much sooner. I imagined people paid closer attention to the TTs and SLs.
You can verify both times on the game's server, when you have a chance.
If you still doubt it, the Ubermall time is the very same I used to beat seanywauny, so you can ask him.
As for Moa Therma, I guess all I can say is that yeldar isn't as good as you thought he was. ;) The best lap time should make it clear that I was lucky and had either two or three boosts on one lap. Honestly, I thought that'd be more believable, since that time is globally ranked something like 35th, whereas Ubermall is 15th. You guys must just not race on Venom much.
How many br on your entire race and per lap, Koleax ?
Yeah I did, good job on those times. You're a really good pilot (I played you a few times). The Moa times stood out on Connavar's site but it turns out alot of similar times exist on the official leaderboards and his site is simply out of date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
The problem with his site is 99% of players only enter their own times. Once in a while someone (chboing?) spends a ridiculous amount of time and enters all the other records :eek I think this was last done on 7-31-09.
Sorry but online times are stuffed now,well online play is basically stuffed ATM.
I've never had so many weird occurrences regarding online times since HD came out.
Ok,I'm not the fastest Phantom pilot but by the same token I can hold my own with the fastest and I know when something is amiss.
4 times today I have had races and even if I was to account for lag something is definitely wrong.
For instance what just happened a few moments ago,I'm racing Phantom A/P reverse,I'm in pole position at the start,nobody overtakes me and yet before I go to make the first right bend I am 15.7 seconds behind ! WTF !!!
I'm no slouch when it comes to this track,and I was never headed nor hindered during the 5 laps and I had at least 3 turbos and did at least 8 BR's during the 5 laps.
Yet this invisible racer gets 1st place and a time 15 sec faster than mine,which I suspect will be at least 5-6 sec faster than any TT time ever achieved by Piraphaic or Leungbok.
I've had 3 other races like this today and quite a few last night,each time this has happened there has been at least two racers from the USA in the field ,strangely they seldom seem to be seen on the online board when back in the lobby,or at least one of them has disappeared from the field.
Other times I have joined a room,get on the board and nothing happens,I have to quit the game as things have frozen [it won't let me quit the race,no buttons are working] or it says I'm leading the race when the race hasn't even started.
I'm suspecting that the various servers are now so out of whack with each other that all online game play is about to come to a calamitous halt.
Something is seriously wrong,as such all online [multiplayer race ] times that are coming up as new world records by more than .50 sec should be considered extremely dubious and highly unlikely to be even remotely correct.
I can't say I've ever had that experience, blackwiggle. I was just racing yeldar on a bunch of phantom races and I tried to look out for anything unusual, intentional or otherwise, but I kept pace with him enough to see that he's an excellent racer.
Ubermall? Probably 3 per lap on average. Boosting over the hills through the two buildings is the big shortcut, as everyone must know. On Moa it was once during the whole race, while boosting over the last turn. You can have a lot of turbos on Moa on not let a single one go to waste and throw you into a wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by leungbok
You're good too, Rezatron. I remember you were the only real competition in one of the tournaments I've raced so far.
The whole HD/FURY online has gone weird.
Even "Players Met" is stuffed.
I'm not sure if this is the game or some 3.01 update problem.
Next time you first sign in have a look at the last few people on your players met list before you start the game up,then start up HD/FURY and just go into the lobby,don't join any games yet,now take a look at your Players met list again,got a few new additions even though you haven't met/raced anybody new yet?
If not,join a race and then check the names you just played against the ones on players met,I guarantee you you will either have additional ones or at least some different ones from the people you just played against.
I mean I just checked mine out and I have Yelder as one of the last 3 people I have played,I haven't raced Yelder in at least 4-5 MONTHS.:dizzy
Online is stuffed ,and in more than one way.
Your ubermall race time is totally feasible, congrats !Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
But for moa, a 6 seconds difference with Yeldar with only one br per race (so no shortcut, i suppose) is really very stunning. Yeldar is one of the best pilots and is able on mp race to perform many shortcuts and brs like in tt. Beating him by one tenth is a feat, by 6 seconds is :eek:eek:eek
I'm curious to know the amount of br Yeldar made on his second rank, if he remembers.
Always 1-2 per lap + shortcutBR if i have a turbo. i think it was 6-7...
Thanks Yeldar, i thought about something like that ;)
So, an already very speed race !!
@ Koleax : I don't want to seems harsh or be the eternal bad mood guy, but to be frank, i don't believe in your multiplayer venom on moa forward. For several reasons :
- Lots of glitched races already exists on the official boards.
- Ag-System is a great ship but not the best choice to break records (mostly at venom speed)
- 1 br only for the entire race, you didn't put all the chances at your side to break a record. (2 br at least are possible to perform if you have boosts at the correct moment, and one per lap is possible without boost).
- 6 seconds is too much IMHO. I'm not sure that even with 10 boosts if it could be possible to beat, Yeldar's time with 3 seconds. And at venom speed, only 3 laps so few weapon-pads.
- Mostly, you beat Yeldar by 6 seconds only on 1 lap :eek:eek:eek , not 2 seconds per lap (already hard to believe).
The point is that i don't doubt about your skills and also i'm sure you didn't made an intentional fake record. But lot of people here are already upset and discouraged by the broken official leaderboards, so let's not enter glitched times on Connavar's website ;)
However if you can prove with a video a close racetime to your moa's, i'll sincerely appologize !
If I'm guessing correctly, the problematic time is a multiplayer race time?
If so, checking that it is a glitched time or not is easy. If it says under Speed Pads the number 0, it is glitched. So please delete it if that is the case.
Also,
"Earth calling Sony Liverpool. Earth calling Sony Liverpool. Sony Liverpool, please respond."
Please.
Well not now, mate. I checked that this afternoon and in multiplayer times it shows now the fastest lap (or maybe there's an option to look at the amount of speedpads like before, but i didn't find it).
It will show on his "Personal" page under the "Single Race" category, as for some dumb reason this page combines both single race times against the AI and the multiplayer race times.
Lol it sticks out like a sore thumb Leungbok ;)
Removed link, wasn't working
Unless he had some major respawn good fortune it's got to be wrong.
Lol, mate !
Yes, i think about something like that, only Koleax knows !:robot
To be honest, the issue with the leader-boards has made me quit playing Wipeout which is a big shame. When people are unable to upload their records the whole point of striving to be the best kinda disappears. I haven't touched the game in several months but before I quit I managed to get my Transcendence trophy so at least I'm happy about that achievement :) Hopefully SL will fix some of the game-breaking issues with Wipeout HD and release another DLC pack, that would bring me back to the game again.
I just checked and did not see any multiplayer races recorded on my "Personal" page. It's all "single race" times back from when I was doing the campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdrium777
My Multiplayer Venom Moa time is ranked 31st. Yeldar's, which is the same time ranked on Connavar's site, is ranked 47th. It's a pretty even gradient from his time to mine and onward.
You guys are hung up about my lap time, so I'd advise reading the online leaderboards sitting down. The fastest lap time I saw was more than 12 seconds faster, but I think it's feasible with five or six turbos. The fastest lap times primarily use AG-Systems followed by Feisar.
There are many glitched times on multiplayer boards. on the top and also below.
IMO the best overall wipeout hd pilot is still Wotan998, Yeldar is 2nd atm.
If you want to have a better view at how he races, you'll find many videos on this site, some of Yeldar, some of Pirahpac (only phantom class) and even some from me, maybe it can helps to judge how fast it's possible to be on various tracks with all difficulties (br, shortcuts...)
Show us a video of your racing skills and no doubts will remains !
i'm always interested to see someone new able to beat Yeldar, i thought i knew all the pilots able to do that !
A laptime of 17.99 is faster of 15 seconds (lol) than the rank 1 speedlap (33.46) = it's simply impossible without glitch, respawn or bug of timer.
No it isn't. Try taking a picture of that table and posting it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
The method you described for achieving that time makes it impossible for you to have done it. 1BR? No.
Also, your "best lap" on that race is 29.xx Speed Lap record is 33.xx Who do you think you are trying to kid? You can't base yourself on glitched times saying "Oh mine is less glitched so I guess it's all right."
Sure thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdrium777
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/000_0175.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/000_0176.jpg
Yeah... Seriously? I don't know how long you've been playing this game, but while doing a Speed Lap you're limited to one turbo pickup per lap, whereas in a multiplayer race you can have many turbos per lap. That comparison looks just about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdrium777
I could have gone a lot faster!
About five years. Thanks for the info! ;) :+Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
But on a serious note, thanks for the pictures. I personally have myself glitched times on that page due to the Spectator mode, and they show 0 speed pads, and are much faster than what is theoretically possible. Some of these times are actually recorded on the online multiplayer race leaderboard, to my unfortunate displeasure. That is why I was wondering about the pictures.
You would have needed a lot of turbos though, it is possible to get very lucky. However the times you were referring to earlier are definitely glitched, so I would be cautious about using them as an argument.
1.45 is definitely possible in Time Trial, with one turbo per lap. If you got more, than perhaps it is possible (But again the thing that remains is you said you BR once, whereas this 1.45 is using all the BR and shortcuts). The margin is still rather high between you and second place (yeldar) so that is why it looks very odd. You should make a video like leungbok suggested. :)
Well, I could go into my hypothesis that AG-Systems reaches top speed much sooner, so that when you get the first turbo on the first corner you can use it more efficiently to max out until the next turbo, max and speed pads to the next turbo, all before the second turn, and how BRs don't get you much anyway especially on Moa, etc., but I'm more interested in hearing from the guy who started this thread.
ProblemSolver is ranked 5th, with a total time of 1.37.11 and a best lap of 17.28, incidentally the fastest best lap overall, using Feisar. Maybe he can settle some nerves here with a few words.
Except that time is impossible ;) That much is certain. There is not enough weapon pads on a racing line to give enough turbos to divide the Speed Lap world record by two. Your fastest lap is also a stretch of the imagination, you would have needed to get one turbo on every pad for it to even make sense... In Speed Lap I just tried, resetting my boost so it would be in time with the next weapon pad on the racing line. I still come up at around 3x.xx, with my ghost who uses the shortcut and the BR (34.xx) right behind me. I would have to use a stop watch to be certain, but even then I'm pretty sure it would turn out to around 30. And to get that every lap, or nearly the same amount of turbos every lap? You said you didn't use the shortcut, and only one BR, so that implies a big lot of turbos, and by a lot, it's like almost every weapon pad from what I can test right here in Speed Lap.
One question: did you at any time use the spectator option on Moa Therma forward at Venom class?
@ Koleax
2 example of fast races on moa therma :
Phantom class (and still far from 17.XX)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yivHNXTxlUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdCkwmqpnh4
Look, if you're going to talk about mathematical certainty, you could at least do it better than a third grader (no offense to any third graders here). I did not divide the Speed Lap record by two. I beat it by a few seconds using advantages not available in Speed Lap. This is not controversial, much less impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdrium777
In what? Really, this is a joke you guys play on new guys with good multiplayer times, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdrium777
It's too predictable for you to say, "that damned Koleax, getting lucky with all those turbos!" You have to go this roundabout way of getting me to explain how to play the game.
I don't remember. It's possible, since I distinctly remember watching CheekyGirl waiting motionless on the final turn until turbo-ing just as the racer behind her approached and thinking, "man, that was cheeky!" but I thought it was on Flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkdrium777
It sure would be nice if this discussion of that time had something to do with the failure of the leaderboards to update, and also would not turn into yet another pissed-off argument between members.
Nice, I like the way you speak to me :clap Okay, so I was unclear and talking about ProblemSolver's time which you refer to. 17 seconds is approximately half of 33 seconds which is the world record in speed lap. You can't base yourself on that, it is obvious that it is glitched and impossible to obtain realistically, even at Phantom class with all the barrel rolls and shortcuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
And no, it isn't a joke on the new guy. It isn't a joke at all in fact. Fake times are very serious matter. You may have unknowingly entered a glitched time into Connavar's site, compromising the integrity of it. It's probably not intentional, but it still is a serious matter.
Also, I am trying to tell you how to play? No, all I said was according to the experience I have of the game, obtaining a time four seconds ahead of the Speed Lap record (which is basically perfection until it is beaten) is simply mind boggling, especially in a multiplayer race where anything goes. Had the game just come out, I would have said that there is probably a trick, but you obviously didn't use any except one BR (Or you omitted to say so) so again the doubt remains.
Lastly, if you ever used spectator mode, this is probably the problem and it glitched out again, entering a fake time on the online board. It's a known bug of the system.
Sure Lance, but you can admit that we stay cool when a newcomer comes to explain us the game ;)
Back on topic : I was not that much annoyed by the broken leaderboards because i trusted all the members here to be honest with their records on Connavar's site ! I think now it urges to be fixed :?