Thanks kgb. I think that's the first shortcut I've gotten the hang of so far. All the others I suck at, especially if they involved a boost. I often end up in the wall. I actually only got the hang of this one since the last Avalon. I watched one of kanar's videos and saw that he sideshifts it. Once I started doing that it was much simpler. So I owe him for that one, as well as the bit on anulpha where you drop off the bridge and barrel roll. On that one I actually did sideshift when I shouldn't have. Goes to show how subtle differences have a big effect on lap times.