Please don't start with the TDR crap. :roll:
We've been there too many times already.
They never designed the ships. They did billboards, team logos etc. but they did not design the ships or tracks or whatever.
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Please don't start with the TDR crap. :roll:
We've been there too many times already.
They never designed the ships. They did billboards, team logos etc. but they did not design the ships or tracks or whatever.
Ok. But in wipEout the ships were excellent, in wipEout2097 very good... then... :cry:
These ones are too smooth, un-dynamic and un-stylish!
You’re not going to Buy Wipeout Pure? Then yee are a fool!
true.
means you didn't like w3o's ships?Quote:
Originally Posted by feiyen
this man is crazy :roll:
Feiyen, here's one to agree with you. However much I didn't like Pure's overall design at first, I quickly came to terms with it. I think it's smooth, slick and stylish. Yet the same points you mentioned above crossed my mind when I saw those ships: Too much uninspired more-of-the-same the farther one progresses through the list of ships. But then I never gave much for the craft anyway. I'm still on pause - waiting to see how Pure turns out before I start celebrating or ranting or playing. :)
Ben
Well I guess taste is a personal thing so we should cut him some slack because... nah you're right he's a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assegai Developments
To be honest I'm not keen on some of the ship designs myself - I don't like the AG Sys much, although you get used to it, and I think the Piranha is hideous.
But the Assegai is quite nice, and at least the Auricom is a bit of an evolution from the old W3 style rather than an abomination like it was in Fusion.
But anyone who still believes that DR designed the ships isn't really qualified to comment on anything at all, to be brutally honest. :roll:
this game is not F-Zero, this game is wipEout, and in wipEout the design is a big important thing, as the gameplay or the OST.
With a design like that Pure can be only a "nice game"... but to spend 250€ or more i want a masterpiece!
I'm glad that someone agrees with me ;)
:cry:
heh, picky picky picky picky :D
I don't f****n' care if i fly the 'ugly' Piranha, or 'ugly' AG-Sys. I'll choose the fastest team around and master the tracks flying it. That's what I want to do with Pure. What's commited (previous ship designs) is history, nothing to cry about, unless you want to spend your whole life bitchin' about it. (that doesn't mean that I became a non-purist of it comes to Wipeout. I still think that W'O" rocks, nothing will change that). Cheers!
shem i can understand that someone really doesn't care about the ship design.
so, if you say "i just want to master the tracks" i can understand you.
but the ship design is still bad, and who cares about it can only... :cry:
I was just getting ready to write the same thing, Shem. :) I don't care much for the ship design. Yes, great design has always been one of the trademarks of the Wipeout series. But while I fly, I sit in my cockpit (not seeing any piece of my ship at all) and for the most part concentrate on mastering the track (not recognizing much of the obstacles before me). You get my point. ;-)
Ben
I do care about the design, just read my post concerning the ship design in Pure. I just think that this is not the most important thing in Wipeout really. I know that Fusion had some bad ship design, and that was a problem. The problem was that the ship design of Fusion had very little to do with Wipeout or just a regular Wipeout ship design as such. Now, with pure it's all back to roots, and although you may find the ships badly designed, i think that they're not only to look at, but to fly with. I personally hate 2097 Pirahna design (i really think it was not as good as others, not to mention the fabulous 2097 Auricom), but i love to beat some records with it. As for the Icaras - if it was painted red and white (my country flag colours BTW...), and was a bit more maneouvreable, namely called AG-Sys - i'd praise it to my very end (but still i think that w3o's AG-sys design is the best so far). But i still fly Icaras to beat some records. It is a great team, the best one in w3o. The fact is, you just cannot have it all, but provided with what you see, you just gotta adjust. Bad ship design is not a reason for me not to buy Pure. Bad flight engine is for instance....but that's a different story.
For me the ship design is reeeeally important.
If i had already a PSP, i'd bought it.. but i haven't it, and spend 250+€ for an half-wipeout...
i think these ships are not so much better than fusion's ships...
bad smoothed, shaded and un-dynamic.
That's my point of view.
[sorry for bad english >.<]
I thought the over-all craft design was pretty good; however, the pirahna really cought me off guard!!! :wink: And about the design of the crafts being too smooth and their designs, I'd agree with Shem. If Wipeout were a reallity (sorry to get off topic), then you would simply have to fly whatever came up as your teams design, not what kind of crafts you wanted to fly yourself (unless Wipeout became and independent sport), and the craft are designed on how well they fly, not how well they look (although looks come right after it's flying ability). So all that smooth surface is to hit the air at an incredible amount of speed, and the least wind resistance is the best. Remember, it's all about speed and control, not your eye's opinion. :wink: 8)
heh, but at least they have closed canopy unlike some of the ships of Fusion. Heh, imagine flying over 1000 km/h with an open canopy cockpit........there wouldnt be much left of your head.... :D
lol!! I never thought of that. Especially when hitting the top of your craft onto the top of the ceiling, I don't think the helmets can help much of that!!!! :)
if it was real, an human eye couldn't follow the speed of the game ;)
u can't tell which design is better for the aerodynamics... so it's better if we stand in the "eye-based opinion".
These crafts are bad.
Fast, good to control and master the tracks [maybe], but not goodlooking.
And for a wipEout game this is mad.
Won't be quite sure about that one until I try it. You never know, they could design some kind of goggles that would withstand speed better than the eye (like in Fusion), just a thought. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by feiyen
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Originally Posted by feiyen
Why TDR - the good guys from there have long gone and they didnt design the ships in any of the previous games anyway, they were done by the artists as with every version.
Why do people have such myths about work TDR didnt do ??????
It is absolutely ridiculous, sorry if that sounds harsh but it is one thing that REALLY pisses me off, TDR get praise for stuff they had nothing to do with, its a joke.