@Aspect: I've only simplified it a little and modifed some functions according to this movie about improving perfomance (got rid of some math functions). As for collision ray I'm using two rays to detect six collisions xD (I mean one ray activates sparks according to place where it have been hit).
Thanks guys glad you all like it! :D
Thanks for the crit man, yea some decals and sponsors would definatly make it alot better with the collour scheme, i'll have to design some logos and come up for some names for that first though, i'll tone the rivets back a bit as well when the logos go on there too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotational_aspect
Started on the second ship btw should be done the end of the week, started my first internship today full time so i don't have much time anymore :P
Solaristics have made some nice logos so I think you should take a look ;)
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...&postcount=678
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...&postcount=671
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...&postcount=673
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...&postcount=676
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...&postcount=679
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...&postcount=685
EDIT: New version of game just to show it's actual perfomance, no revelation: Download
A.I ships are now zombie so if you touch it you'll lose speed... i can make them suck out your power too if you want xD
Nice work, Zero! I like how all the features of WipeOut are in there now (respawn points etc). Seems very solid.
Mini update: I have started to make the scripts more user friendly by having properties for speed, handling etc available to change via sliders than through code....should make setting up ships or tweaking much easier.
EDIT: Someone I know on BlenderArtists made a 600 player race AI demo (simple AI but then 600 of them.....!)
EDIT 2: I have (I think) got all the controls down- when my AI goes round a corner too fast it will now brake until it can steer properly- again this is all user definable.
Oh man... That was soo cool! :D Awesome! I love where this is going!
By the way zero, about the ships, like, the sparks placement and stuff, can you tell us if it's possible to make the placement be linked to an object coordinates? Like you are making a ship and you want it to throw sparks in a certain location. If we put a box with a certain property will the game place the sparks there? This is just so that you won't have to place the effects manually on every single ship, because that's a lot of work, I suppose...
That's not so many work but I'll work on it although it can be hard as:
1. There is still this damn scale thing... everytime I export something to Unity it has other scale (yeah, it can be in modelling software but we need to set default units for models [including tracks]) and with scale I'll give i.e. for ship changes overall scale for everything u'r doing with this object, which means that raycast offset for ship with (original scale * 5) will be different for object with (original scale * 2)...
2. Hmmmmm.... i thought there will be more reasons... nevermind xD This one is enough to consider.
If you want I can send you newest version of project of game so you can take a look and check what I mean
Zero: in Blender there is the ability to re-scale a mesh to 1:1- does unity have such a feature?
Well, all my ships are made in meters and in real scale: 1 3ds max units = 1 meters. If everyone made the ships with that scale then you wouldn't have to rescale anything...
This is the GREATEST!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotational_aspect
I mean as if racing 29 opponents in F-Zero X wasn't enough, or battling 39 drivers to first place in Daytona USA. In fact, where have all these vehicles gone? It seems to be only 16 now... but I want as many as you can fit on the track if not more!
600 vehicles on grid? You'll need a track as large as the Nurburgring 24h config,and then some more!
Anyone considering porting this to Android?(just asking)
Mini Update
I've added pitching to my game so if u'r pitching up it jumps a little higher but flyies slower too, but when pitching down it runs faster (it's only 5-8kph difference so no big deal) and it is harder to fall-off the track and it falls faster to the ground so almost no jumping :g Now it's time for barrel rolls ^^
Nice! You sure are working fast! 6 more days and I'll be back in action! Can't wait to see the barrel roll effect!
Also:
http://soundcloud.com/rbng-1/ngage
What do you think?
Also: Tons of free HQ skymaps:
http://blenderartists.org/forum/show...sive-07-update!)
About the game it self, is there gonna be pits?
Br's?? Please don't, wouldn't it be hard to make it operate without bugs. How about... hyperthrust (chill Xpand ;)) It should be easier to program into the source code? (shield value = s , speed value = x (PyShell)
S= 100.0
linear velocity = (3 u/s ?)
linear velocity = x
print = x
>>> linear velocity
print linear velocity (Im checking if it's ok)
>>> (3 u/s ?)
(idk how u put button command or time)
input (button?), (3 sec?)*2 = X + time*0.5
S- (3 sec?)*2
Hopefully you understood... ish (thats as much as I know...))
It's okay if you don't want to... it's just a thought.
Barrel rolls should not be that hard, if in Blender (I imagine similar in Unity too):
1>Animate the ship doing a barrel roll
2>Use a ray to detect how far off the floor you are
3>If the ray is a certain distance and the player has enough energy (plus pressing some buttons) play said animation and increase thrust a little
4> Check for collisons- if there is a collison before the animation finishes then there would be no speed boost. But, if all 100 frames played then you would get the boost (and a reduction in health).
Hyperthrust would be easy too:
1> Get the players linear velocity
2> If it is a certain speed (and the player holds a button) deduct health but increase speed temporarily.
Pits are simple- this was one of the first things I made (Xpand indirectly taught me how to do this when I was learning Blender):
Cast a ray downwards- if it hits a certain material or object with a certain property increase the health value/ property of the ship. If health >= 100 then health = 100.
Speed pads are similar- if you detect a certain property or material add a percentage speed increase to the velocity of the player.
Man, why ray? Simple trigger with tag and viola (I'm short on CPU on things like netbook)... as for hyperthrust I've just made it for fun so it boosts player and reduces health (it took ~5 min). As for Barrel Roll I just need to find an alternate way to keep two rotation variables. Why two? Becouse when there will be tracks that need ship to tilt left/right, i.e when track is changing from horizontal to vertical on world axis (from _ to | :g) I need to tilt my ship too so I'll make Barrel Rolls without using animation.Quote:
Pits are simple- this was one of the first things I made (Xpand indirectly taught me how to do this when I was learning Blender):
Cast a ray downwards- if it hits a certain material or object with a certain property increase the health value/ property of the ship. If health >= 100 then health = 100.
Speed pads are similar- if you detect a certain property or material add a percentage speed increase to the velocity of the player.
Oh, and my zombie ships are sucking my Energy fast like hell xD It's hard to get through them now... but I have cannon to kill them :P (btw. Now placement system is not freezing when they're destroyed)
The system I suggested was a generic one that could be made in any system.
Also, prepare for some serious vector maths with your barrel roll method!!
Good news with your position system too, I got around that problem by using some of the features of lists in Python (len, sort etc) that do not rely on fixed variables.
A question: how are you handling collisions? Are you using linear velocity or straight collision detection (e.g. a bump from a ship = - 5 health)?
Couple of methods:
1. For ship-to-ship collisions I have special collider which detects only same type collider (with same layer) so you can ram other ships without flying over them (this one is without health change)
2. Ship's collider for detecting walls, bullets, or trigger for respawning (this one takes 2 points of life every frame when touching only EnemyAI ships)
2.1 On enemy ships it is only for detecting collisions with bullets and walls, for now it detects whether it's a cannon bullet or rocket (they don't have spark-activating rays for perfomance reasons)
3. Two rays on player's ship which handles sparks and by the way takes life according to actual rigidbody's speed (reacts only to walls)
Except for rays all of them are primitive box colliders with friction and constant rigidbody gravity turned off.
I see, thanks Aspect!
Zero, how fast is fast?
P.S. Aspect, you know any awesome tuts for Python? I just have the manual to go by so far...
Aside from forums like BlenderArtists, A Byte Of Python is a good introduction. Also check out (although outdated) Tutorials For Blender 3D which has code examples and (up to date) http://solarlune-gameup.blogspot.com/ has a series of beginner tutorials.
@How fast is fast?@
feisar_rocket: What do you mean?
How the zombie ships are eating your shields and how you can't pass by.
About 10 seconds to completely destroy your ship when colliding constantly. When I time it right I can pass them so I didn't make it impossible to win.
Just come across some code which has made my life a lot easier! It checks the magnitude of collisions, so if a ship hits anything I can see how 'hard' the collision was (ships, walls...anything!!). My weapons scripts automatically deplete the energy property of the target object hit so that is handled too. The only problem I have is that only the parent object registers hits, so children act as ghosts.
zero3growlithe> sounds cool! I take it the other ships lose energy too in the collision? Get a shield power up and slam into them!
They don't lose energy for now but it's just adding one line to my code so no problem, but this line gave me new idea. How about making something like powerful sideshift? Double tap sideshift button, hold it to charge and slam! If only I would be able to make online play it would be awesome to get rid of your opponent when head-to-head on wep off race. :gQuote:
zero3growlithe> sounds cool! I take it the other ships lose energy too in the collision? Get a shield power up and slam into them!
(the only thing I dislike right now is that on keyboard controlling my ship now is pain in a**, so I'll start mapping controls to my PS3 controller. For those who don't own one I'll leave controll mapping enabled in script [input options when opening up the game])
Sounds similar to the F-Zero X spin attack- very handy!
Just came out the shower and had a "eureka!" moment.
How about level of simulation?
(I. damage only to shields, dumping weapon gives you shield energy. (basic WipEout)
II. damage done to shields first then armor, pits must be used to "cool" engines and regenerate shields (heat levels do not damage shields). (amateur WipEout)
III. full racing sim, batteries for engines and weapons must be recharged. Overheating, shield failures, weapon malfunction, battery overloads, is possible. Damage is done to shields and armor at the same time (shield - 60% damage to armor). Recharge lanes are activated (across pit lanes). Heat levels damage shields. Low shields = lower speeds. Possible engine failure from direct weapon impact to thruster. Once shields are "offline" they never restart (shields low -> shields critical -> shields fail -> shields offline). (FX-150 amateur league complete simulation)
I know it might be... impossible to get it like this, but I just wanted to share.
P.S. Thanks for Python tuts Aspect.
Some interesting ideas feisar rocket- I don't know if this would suit a 3 lap race, you may have to increase the race distances to make these features more meaningful, plus it would be a challenge to balance the gameplay.
Not impossible though.....
This could be where endurance and speedway races could have a part
Damn, forgot about it...
I see, Aspect. I even drew a HUD at school today
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I like the full-sim idea... The number of variables would be immense, but I'm starting to get a look at Java scripts for Unity, next wednesday I'll be working on this at 100%! :g
Learn that Java... maybe even drink some ;)
I gotta get bitten by Python, I got nothing... stuck. By Xpand learns Java, I'll learn Python.
anything i can do?
Well Bom, help me with a HUD, track, and ship discription. Is that good?
Unity supports python? I never saw that anywhere...Quote:
Originally Posted by feisar rocket
I'm not sure if Unity has Python support. I was talking about Blender.
Hey, what's the ships dimensions have to be?
Well, I've been making mine in real-world realistic sizes: from 10 to 20 meters in length, 6 to 12 meters in width and 2-4 meters in height.... Those are the average measures of a fighter aircraft, which I reckon the AG-ships must be around the same size... I usually use a human analog: a line with 1.6-1.7 meters just to get a feeling of how big the ship will be in comparison to the pilot... I usually do that while still on the drawing board, in scale obviously, but in the 3D it's all real size...
Ah thanks Xpand!
I think Unity uses Boo (similar to Python), Java and C#. Zero will have the definitive answer as he is currently the UnityMaster™ 8)
Ha ha, Unity master xD
And yeah, C#, JavaScript and Boo are used. JavaScript is good but it doesn't have the possibility to access external files so I have to add C# to my learning list :g No idea about Boo.
btw. I've divided Xpand's track on two objects and I can detect whether I'm hitting wall/track so now falling of the track is... IMPOSSIBLE, BWAHAHAHA! :cold:g
EDIT: New track: Up View | Perspective (I'll make better texture...)
btw. If it reminds you something then know it wasn't on purpose :nod