I Think its a bit of an overeaction, i mean its taken this long to discover a glitch in a game that was basically a launch title?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmadSmartAlex
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I Think its a bit of an overeaction, i mean its taken this long to discover a glitch in a game that was basically a launch title?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmadSmartAlex
It's taken this long to discover this glitch, not a glitch. ;)
I m not really too hot on how many glitches there are in this game.
I havnt encountered anything id call a glitch so to me finding this, 2 or 3yrs after it came out isnt that bad?
I Cannot Make Vids, Is That Hard To Understand.+_+
@Nutcase, This is the only public's video of a glitch and it was uploaded the 1st of june 2009 ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bn95...eature=related
@Djm1zw1z, i'm not surprised ! :lol
I think nearly everyone on here would use something to gain an advantage over other racers... i.e, getting air off the sides of the tracks to barrel roll or leaving the circuit to get air! i dont think thats fair when racing online, unless everyone can do it!
Thats what i call cheating, how are the newbies going to compete with that?
but the pride of the top 10 players is all that really matters... :dizzy
Better the pride of top players who are open about their methods and want true competition, than the ego of mediocre players who resort to cheating and lying just to see their name (undeservedly) at the top. ;)
Why should neewbies compete with hardcore gamers ? :eekQuote:
Originally Posted by MegaGeeza22
Mario kart allows that, and in a certain measure HD too ! :?
:+ smad.
Interesting about the video thing....I'm pretty sure I've seen several videos of yours on teh interwebz. Doesn't really matter tbh, I couldn't care less. Well that's a lie, I could, but I need some sort of excuse to post.
Feel free to redeem yourself by pinching a Phantom TT or two. How about Chenghou Project Reverse, after all that is your favourite track ;)
Yeah, in a bad mood, deal with it, shouldn't have been such a tosser in the first place, now feel free to jog on.
Well this is all news to me...
I'm clueless about glitches and the like, don't see the point. If you can't win fair and square, then where's the glory?
+1 to Smad, if players are open about their methods then you can always practice to try and beat them :)
@ DjM1zw1z - I understand why people are angry, it's not that you found and used a glitch...it's that you waited for people to find out before coming clean and telling the truth.
A forced confession is not a genuine one. But hey, we're all friendly here so don't worry about it too much - just don't expect anyone to trust in your times without proof ;)
True Cat, and also Djm1zw1z you're young, it's a good lesson in how to deal with social life ! ;)
... and this was your tutor lesson.
Sorry Lol
...with no doubt ! :lol
Of course new comers deserve at least half a chance! when someone new gets the game and go online for the first time they get owned by people doing BRs off the edges of the track and they get lapped and they quit... for ever! its like playing cod and dying everytime you spawn because the "hardcore" just own you everytime! Thats why theres hardly anyone online! We need more fans so sony pull there finger out and get a new wipeout going!
Its just the elites and the trophy hunters.. and because there is hardly anyone online the newbies are forced to join in with you guys! We dont need 50 grown men crying that there not top anymore, Yes people cheat but people cheat at everything... youve got your own leaderboard. Hes just a young lad who found a glitch... tried it a few times and got a few people angry, i think hes learnt his lesson... Hopefully:redface:
I don't think !Quote:
Originally Posted by DjM1zw1z
Why ?
Just because you come here after your glitched WR. If you were very good, you would come before at WipEout Zone in order to learn some tips without which you can't fight for legitimate 1st place.
Your behavior is exasperating.
DjM1zw1z: I mean, this was your lesson of life!
Was a joke, based on what Leungbok said just above my post, but you didn't
get it :(
Wait What.??Quote:
Originally Posted by kaori
there's all the options for newcomers to race against pilots of their skills, pilot-assist, BR-off, when they chose races without those options what do they expect ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaGeeza22
And IMO wipeout HD is already hugely based on luck and on slower classes an average player with turbos, quakes, persistent bombs can beat even a top player !
I don't know for everybody, but when i begin in playing a game online, i ALREADY know that some players have lot of game time and also more skills than i, i'm not that pretentious to expect to win against everybody !! :rolleyes:
So when a newcomer don't win or at least follows a good pilot in wipeout, he quits ? Do all newbies believe they are some of the best pilots ??? :eek
No, it's not like that at all. It's the opposite. When that happens in CoD, the "hardcore" players killing you as soon as you spawn are the ones taking advantage of glitches/bad game design.Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaGeeza22
Your argument suggests that you want WOHD to become like that, where the only way to win is to more or less cheat. Or only slow players should be allowed to cheat, to make it "fair"?
Sorry, I don't mean to be harsh, but I just disagree with you totally.
I agree, WipEout isn't Mario Kart.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmadSmartAlex
And an other & recent exemple, Gran Turismo 5. The skills are more important in GT5 than in WipEout where weapons can palliate level's difference. In GT5 if you are just 1 second less fast than your opponent, you'll never catch him unless an accident. So imagine if your opponent is an hardcore player !
But GT5 is very famous and lot of players, good or not, have bought it & play it.
All games can be fun when you play it with opponents who have a near level than you, you don't need to have WR for that.
I know many shortcuts and can pull-off most BR's but i terrible at online racing :redface:
I remember when brainbeat found a glitch on Talons Junction, he wasn't aware that glitches are not welcome here on WZ but his behavior was completely different than Mi1zw1z's. He was really sorry for what he did, and nobody was attacking him.
I'm not obsessed about rankings, I don't care if i have #1 or #5 on the leaderboards behind some glitchers. All i want is to compete with the best players who are honest with their methods and tricks.
Videos - this is another story, in XXI century we have cameras everywhere, in cellphones, computers, toothbrushes. If someone got #1 global he should put a video on YT, it's not that hard to do.
Cheers :)
MrSmadSmartAlex, Harsh lol.
Top pilots no were all the lips on the edge the of tracks are and places to leave the track and in my terms 'misuse' BRs when 50% of people dont no about these places... im not saying new users need an advantage, i just think its wrong to 'glitch roll' on a ledge or side barrier to gain advantage when only a few people no about them. I hate it when im in 1st place and all of a sudden some muppet flies 50feet above my ship and BRs off into the distance.. Sol2 rev!! Cheating is bad in any form, like in the cheats thread i said leaderboard glitchers arnt cheats... there hackers
Its ok though to use tons of BRs on the track like for Zicos trophy:) but i disagree with using the sides as a ramp
I think I must have accidentally glitched on Metropia at some point, My multiplayer race time on Rapier is 10th in the world! There's no way that can be right, I'm slow as sh*t :lol
Personally I've never sought out any glitches or cheats on Wipeout, it would simply ruin any sense of accomplishment. Not having a go at anyone, just my personal view.
I don't have the game, mate you know ! ;) But i heard that players with driving assistance can be faster than pilots playing in simulation's config ! So politics of sony for their games is to low the global level of their gamers ! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by kaori
whats your time then colonel? :)
I know, but like WipEout, the host can set all, and forbid all assistance ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leungbok
So good pilots who leaves all the assistance available knows what to expect ! :p
You were saying that new users need (and deserve) an advantage though. lol. Or at least it appeared that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaGeeza22
About BRs off the rails; if it's not taking advantage of an error in the programming (bouncing up very high after hitting some object and boosting over half the track is glitching though, I agree), it's not glitching/cheating, it's just skill and knowledge. Of course new players can't keep up with it, and they shouldn't be able to. They haven't practiced enough and don't know the game yet. If they want to learn, there's plenty of players here and in other places who'll gladly offer advice and encouragement, and after that, it's up to them to practice. But if they're going to cry and quit just because they can't be the best in the world without trying or cheating, good riddance.
What are you saying? That this guy's glitched Venom times should be considered legit because he's young and relatively new to the game, for example? It doesn't work like that. No form of competition does. Do they allow less experienced athletes to take performance enhancing drugs in the Olympics? :D
seems like FERFLAPPENDERAH used the same glich on Talons Junction TT Venom
and some other tracks...
I once flew with him on venom and he overtook me on the straight. that seemed a little strange to me.
check the records, i don´t want to accuse somebody wrongly.
You guessed right, he's got some awesome new records in venom/flash.
Moa rev, metro rev, world records :)
Thanks for reporting this, if you notice other glitchers too, because I need to
know who to filter out.
Spot on. Disagree with you on the Olympics thing though, I think all drug testing should be withdrawn. I want to see someone do the 100 metres in 7 seconds, eyes bulging out of their head, screaming all the way. :gQuote:
Originally Posted by MrSmadSmartAlex
Just checked and it's actually Metropia Reverse on venom. 122.97, best lap 17.5... 11th worldwide. God knows what happened, I don't even remember it, think it was shortly after I'd bought the game, which says it all really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oryx Crake
lol, nobody deserves an advantage.. i just want to see the online section booming with people! i think everyone would agree on that!! if there were loads of people then the "L" learners would all have a place to go! but as it is now you see rank 1s,2s racing with rank 50s,101s. But the best racers always come from nowere! I agree that the people who quit for good because they lose are cry babys!
Anyway... Wipeout?
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Originally Posted by Colonel__Gaddafi
I think this bug came from zone battle online . That's the only place where you can do 17 seconds by lap ;)
Ah, well that explains it, cheers Wotan.
Wobot knows all :nod
I was wondering about clitches actually because I have a single race record on metropia fwd in rapier that is at the nr 11 spot(the time is somewhere around 1.38.xx) on conns site and I remember getting a sh*tload of turbos in that race is there such a glitch? Like "the shitload-of-turbos glitch"? I should add that I did get other things on the pick up pads too, not only turbos.
Well I intended to stay right out of this whole debacle, but I just went online and raced a Flash race, not my usual speed, but I wanted to see if what was /has been bantered about here is the truth or people are full of crap and got things way out of perspective.
It's not good I'm sorry to say.
2 forum members BOTH used the glitch to overtake me [I mean come flying over the top of me!] on my best track, IN THE SAME RACE.
I won't name them, they know who they are.....one quit straight after the race....guilty conscience I suspect.
Neither has stated that they will refuse to use the glitch even though I KNOW both know how to use it, one has even posted in this thread, yet STILL is using this glitch....when I'm, the last FFiiing person on the planet you want to pull a stunt like that on, is racing against you ...WTF!
A review of your respective continuation in the WO HD Cup will be discussed with Kanar due to tonight's shameful display of unsportman's like conduct.
wtf! i hope your not talking about me blackwiggle? if its the race i won on sol2,i won fair and square, i do use the sides of the track for extra brs, but would never cheat! and i left right after cause i was shagged from racing texasalex all moning! in fact me and texas were just talking about this cheat glitch this morning n we both agree that people will continue to use it, but it wont be me or tex!!!!!:frown: