Hehe ProblemSolver. For some reason, at the same time that you were thinking the same, I was thinking that you would probably think the same. Coincidence? Yes! :D
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Hehe ProblemSolver. For some reason, at the same time that you were thinking the same, I was thinking that you would probably think the same. Coincidence? Yes! :D
I don't find it odd, its annoying for the user to have to update a game every week with a small bug fix. It also requires additional strain on the servers since they have to be updated for the patch, have everyone dl the patch, then run it. The chance of this running smoothly and without faults is unlikely. Its easier to prep the server for a big transition from patch to patch.
That and I'm sure they have designed the patch so that it works with fury, rather then release it before fury and then when fury comes out finding it doesn't work with the previous patch causing a lot of the bugs to resurface.
Zico has just made his way back into my good books! All is forgiven for sharing the great news with us. The next week is going to drag so slowly, I cant wait! :hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper
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Originally Posted by PLazarou
Look how small that add on content usually is (apart from Titan, which to be fair is a one off). The Call of Duty and Killzone map packs, 2 maps for £5-£7, and if you really have money to burn, why not buy a gun skin for Dead Space that does nothing else but makes it look pretty! Whereas with WipEout your getting 12 courses, 3 game modes, new ship designs, 6 new licensed music tracks and new campaigns for just a little more than a map pack which only gives you 2 new arenas to play on. Yes, the price is a tiny bit higher (and I mean a tiny weeny bit higher) compared to other DLC, but there is so much content its perfectly justified. I think the value for money is so much better! And Fury is only 2 thirds the cost of the full game and it almost doubles what you can do. Again, I think it justifies the cost. For what you are getting, it is cheap!
I'm sorry but it will be the best £7-99 I ever spend. I think I paid £12-99 for the original and when I think of how many amazing hours I've spent on it and how many more to come it is my best value game ever. I'd have happily paid the same as the original game as you're getting 3 new modes with the ability to do all of those on the original tracks as well as the 12 new ones.
So around 5pm on Thursday. Best warn the Mrs now !!
xDQuote:
Originally Posted by silverfox073
Yeah pretty obvious. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SaturnReturn
But I knew already that they would keep those bugfixes until the release of
Fury. I guess they were so focused on kicking Fury out the door that every
other non-Fury stuff didn't got much of a chance.
@RedScar: That depends on how one has built the infrastructure.
Then what is automatism all about?Quote:
Originally Posted by RedScar
lol That's kinda of a Microsoft argument, i.e. 'with the next version ofQuote:
Originally Posted by RedScar
Windows all current bugs will be fixed'. But hey, not everyone will buy the
next Windows. People simply want to have support for a product they
just bought a few month ago.
Fury will have new bugs as well. So there must be an infrastructure with
as less overhead as possible to allow for quick updates to the game.
But who cares? The average Joe eats it anyways....
I'm confused, I thought it was 4 new tracks, with a forward and reverse for 8 total tracks.
And I've now seen 12 listed in a couple of places, a few posts up most recently.
So which is the correct answer?
4 Fwd/Rev + 4 Zone tracks from Pure. This brings the total to 12.
wow a time travellar from 1970's....Quote:
Originally Posted by PLazarou
Unfortunatly 8 pounds really dosnt buy much now.maybe i can get a vodka with a redbull from my favourite winebar in southwark.:p:p:p
if you want a bargin i suggest you go to to poundland
10$ for such awesomeness is nothing! At least SL aren't rip-offs like CapCom are.
Such a big DLC is worth lot more than 10$ and i will gladly pay this price without question. SL knows how to do things ;)
"The vast majority of DLC is below £5."
What? I rarely saw a DLC < 5 euros, and the vast majority of these are suits and this kind of stuff ( LBP, Dead Space... )
10 euros was the price of a single mode in Burnout Paradise, which was just a "catch the flag". Here we have new tracks, new modes ( zone battle being totally unexpected ), enhanced graphics, musics... And the best is, Fury will last very long and add a totally new experience.
I'm all against DLC, I always prefer to see the developpers focus on a new game rather than just an " add-on". But Fury is really what every DLC should be and I'll buy it (if possible). Good work SL :+ I really trust you guys.
How can anyone argue with price of woHD?
* £12 for woHD is the best "release date" price ive ever seen.
* If its £8 for Fury thats pretty good too!
To my knowledge weren't the pulse downloads originally stated at £12 each? Far worse value. (Though then dropped to £3).
As for patches, until you do their work you wont know how hard it is. Just remember not everyones as sh*te as EA.
I was saying this as apposed to releasing the fixes for whatever earlier as apposed to waiting and making one big patch. I am against the idea of not giving those who don't buy fury the patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProblemSolver
saturn...youll buy it on day one and you know it lol
well I'll be... after all that taking from me, Zico finally gives some back. I am somewhat closer to consolation today.Quote:
Originally Posted by satriales
I might need to be forcibly removed from my PS3 once Fury is released.
I believe that would have to be a double for me, RJ.
Having just gotten off of a Metropia Forward (why forward, i don't know) I can say the knowledge of the tracks is really dulling it down for me. I know my turns and lines, braking and acceleration. So I do think it is high time we get some new tracks into our systems. And I forget who linked the video of Fury footage by the frenchman but whatever track he had been racing on was extremely claustrophobic, narrow, and tight. It looked impossible to race on at Flash or whatever racing class he was at. So imagining it at Phantom, and trying to go anymore crafts wide than my own through any part of that track mind boggled me. It's like the cluster at the Chenghou hairpin only for a whole track :hyper
I can't wait.
@RedScar: You got me somewhat wrong. Granted, I wasn't explicit enough.
I meant that people wanna have a continuous support for their product they
just bought a few month ago whether there is a new product on the horizon or
not. With respect to Fury, I don't like the idea of waiting for a DLC just to
get all the latest bugfixes that could had been applied weeks before. Further,
as a customer I don't have to care whether their bugfixes work with Fury or
not. It's up to SL to bring everything in line.
My statement is the following; If they had bugfixes ready since for about
two or three weeks, then I would be very pleased to get those the day they are
ready, ahead of Fury! If they say; 'Nope, bugfixes weren't ready', no problem!
But collecting them just to release a big one weeks or even month (?) later
is, in my opinion, not very pleasing (if true). That's it. No offense! ;)
I rike it. :nodQuote:
Originally Posted by Handmadelion
I once paid over £80 for a copy of street fighter on the snes
The new call of duty coming this year has a retail price of £55
The Fury DLC is a HUGE chunk of game, it is hours and hours and hours
Its not just cheap, its an absolute criminal ****ing steal
You cant even buy one pint and 20 cigarettes for £7.99 !
yes yes yes I am bias (though I didnt work directly on Fury)
but its beyond cheap
Its a year of development, its hours of play just in single player which is multiplied greatly with online play
Its two copies of FHM !
Its less than the price of 3 pints !
Its about 20mins worth of footy at a premiership ground
Sadly, SONY Japan doesn't announce anything about FURY.
I think it means "FURY will be put on the market delaying in Japan behind EU and US", just like original WOHD....:frown:
You are right my good sir. It is well worth the money for all your efforts in this awsome game :hyperQuote:
Originally Posted by Colin Berry
Not my efforts this time :D I'm speaking as a fan rather than developer, I'll be paying my £7.99 later this week to fly my spanky new Qirex round Modesto
Later this week? It's Saturday where you are - and Friday here - how long are you weeks? ;)
I honestly would have been happy to pay double that, because as many others have said...HD was insanely cheap for a game that's provided me with hundreds of hours of play, and so many new friends. Priceless. Bring on the Fury! :g
Amen to that!!! :)
I will buy you a Taco, if I can get HD Fury early. :lol
Well a lot of you continue to be a bunch of deluded fanboys. £7.99 is not cheap for a piece of DLC. It is (fact) one of the more expensive add-ons, and rightfully so. It is a reasonable price for the Wipeout add-on, nothing more. Believe me I'm just as excited as everyone else, I'm just not jizzing myself over something coming out at the expected price, that could/should(?) have arrived much sooner than it has.
Before anybody feels like responding with more biased comments, please re-read the bits I have carefully marked in bold. I am not trying to start an argument! We're all friends here!
Maybe you'd prefer it to be called 'good value'? But still, I think people can call it cheap. You're looking at absolute price, what if I compare on £ per hours of gameplay. It could be considered cheap then, compared with what you get with a lot of other stuff. There's more than one way to skin a piranha. Another example - 26" LCD TV for £10...cheap, 42" Plasma TV for £100...cheap. Just because the one is more expensive than the other doesn't mean it can't still be cheap. A silly example but I think it works all the same.
Oh yes, in terms of the hours I will inevitably get out of it, it is indeed 'good value'. But that's because I am a fan, and it is down to me to extract this 'value'.
I've been trying to add a bit of perspective to this thread, i.e. the perspective of someone less hardcore, who may have only played HD a couple of times, found it very hard etc. and is considering whether it's really worth getting Fury. The 'value' then becomes more objective in this case.
Good news! :)
*grumble grumble* I need to buy a PS3 and play catchup. :dizzy
New community/online features sounds intriguing.Quote:
It will add a number of new features and tweaks to menus of the game including a brand new statistics section, new redesigned ship and track select screens and some new community/online features.
Could well be getting the ability to start Clans or Groups?
Just wondering.
That would awesome if it were so,guess we will find out on Tuesday.
new statistics section could be good :) didnt know that was made too.
sounds better and better, and all for £8! :g
I wonder if the statistic part will already be populated with the mass of data SL would of got already from us.
If BR's done online are a stat,well you would want that to count into the millions for Leungbok & Piraphaic sake otherwise it would be resetting back to zero every few months :lol
Kigo probably knows what i'm on about, but...
I retract any earlier statements or PSN user messages about Zico being my bitch after acquring a certain Trophy. Cheers for the info. I'm guessing that will be about $15.95 AU.
Have a coffee on me instead Mr. Liu. :coffee;)
@PLazarou: I get your point. But! It's kinda useless to talk to the fanbase
about the price, don't you think? Hell, honestly, I would pay 150 EUR to get
the game -- just to give you a number. For us, WipEout HD and Fury is
essentially priceless. Show me a scale that can measure WipEout. I tell you,
there isn't any. And as such it's up to you whether the DLC is a bit to
expensive or not. And judging the game only by the amount of its content
is the worst thing one can do. The game is polished up to an unbelievable
degree. All the countless hours spent in its design and programming is way
beyond any measure.
I would even call it a master-piece if....
Any reports on Australian pricing? It's never a direct conversion.
An AUD price would be nice.
I remember that but that was ages ago. That along with your Cowboy avatar made me laugh my head off everytime i saw it. Classic Kyoto. "Zico is my Bitch" XD.Quote:
Originally Posted by djKyoto
I understand your point, however...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLazarou
At the end of the day, someone who isn't really a hardcore fan and is interested in Fury DLC is still getting a bargain....HD + Fury = £20....that's still cheap for a game (plus DLC), I've paid £45+ in the past for games that have been absolute crap by any standards...so yes even for the less hardcore wipers. This is still cheap :)
I gotta agree, I actually feel bad to some extend about ripping SL off... which makes me wonder: either it's really financially detrimental to release one year worth of work at such a price (in which case everyone ought to buy two copies of WOHD+Fury so the dev team can afford their fuel... err, coffee for the development cycle of the next DLC :lol), or most other companies just release games that have a completely unfair effort/price ratio, and we've become so used to it that we don't even notice anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin Berry
Well I'm guessing that roughly at least 400,000 copies were downloaded of HD.
If only 60- 75% of people downloaded FURY that already have HD it would make a profit.
The crew that made it was trimmed quite extensively over the original HD crew as would be my understanding,well from what I've read here over the last 8 months people have been reassigned to other projects.
Paul and ZICO have gone from testers to project managers.:hyper