There is online crossplay between PS3 and PS4 on some titles - Guilty Gear Xrd for example. I don't see why it shouldn't be possible here. The two platforms don't need to have the same or similar architecture, the game just needs to have the same server structure on both consoles and the framerate would need to be the same. Seeing as WipEout HD was already 1080p/60fps on PS3, I don't see a problem here. Still; I wouldn't count on them implementing it, probably not worth it for them :(
I know the latest Guilty Gear fighting games have cross play between PS3 and PS4. But with WO Omega Collection being enhanced for PS4, it might not be possible.
Vita players would get smashed if crossplay were implemented IMO. Worse physical controls; further limited control schemes (any motion controls are tied to the screen, resulting in more physical effort required, less comfort - and some 2048 ships require motion controls, if they were to continue using 2048's handling model for whatever ungodly reason); 30fps; and a lower resolution would make position perfect manoeuvers more difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFthebestJan
HD handling on 2048 would make it the easiest wipeout game of all time, it would be terrible. 2048 has slide physics that I'm sure will be much better on a big screen, especially at 60 fps. I hope they keep the games separate
i played 2048 alot on vita and on pstv as well, set some WRs...so im pretty confident when saying, both games handling is VERY similar.
Okay, so finally a reason to buy a PS4 in the 3+ years it's been out. This is actually great news tbh. Don't be disappointed just yet that it's only a remaster. My theory is that they're testing the waters to see if there really is a big enough following for the game. If this proves to be a success with the fans of the game and the general gaming public, they may actually make a new WipEout game in the future. Hopefully this does well enough to show them that, yes, we really want a new WipEout game.
This is what I was thinking too, although 2048 was a bit of a mess on Vita (IMO), getting that 60fps bump and a much larger resolution should make it a better playing experience overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
I dont know man, I think they are professional enough to understand what ip rights are. Hell, this could even give their new studio publicity. Anyway, I know I'm stoked to race you and the other vets of this place.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwiggle
I agree, this could be our only opportunity that Sony is going to give us. I say we take that time when the collection is released to show the Sony community and Sony themselves that we would love to have a new Wipeout game to push the series forward and stay for the next generation of gaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by AGSys
I AM NOW SOLD
TAKE MY CREDIT CARD ALREADY
DAMN YOU
now everyone say it with me
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Yeah, I wish we could preorder the physical version already.
NEED
I’m hoping that between now and the release, they will create new, unannounced content. We can only dream.
Scar approves
Another look from the Playstation Access team
https://youtu.be/b9zf16mMF0M
Guys, I think Omega is not limited to the content from HD, Fury or 2048. It would include additional tracks and ships that aren't from these games:
The PS Blog mentions that Omega Collection features "more than 26 tracks", but 2048 has 10 tracks and HD+Fury has 8 tracks. This means that Omega Collection has "more than 8" tracks not included in HD/Fury/2048. Are they bringing back Pure or Pulse tracks, maybe?
If I don't mistake, 2048 has 20 ships and HD/Fury had 12 ships. But according to the PS blog Omega Colleciton has 46 ships instead of 32. Where these other 14 ships come from? Are the ones from Pure unlockables and DLC that weren't included in HD/Fury, maybe?
HD Fury has 16 tracks. 8 from HD and 4 from Fury plus 4 zone tracks. 2048 has 10 which gives a total of 26 tracks.
HD has 12 ships. Fury has 12 ships plus 1 detonator plus 1 zone ship. That is a total of 26 ships for HD Fury. 2048 has 20 ships. Totally 46 ships. That is what I think they mean.
Well said Snake. You can expect mannjon to be there (and practiced up) for the ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakenator1
Hey hey Scar!I hope the records don't get screwed up this go round. A legit records list would be ace. Going to have to break all those records again.
haven't thought about that, but great idea ! 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by Temet
Appreciate the clear breakdown - I was also wondering about this. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by multibodydynamics
Uh, now I see I missed some ships and tracks. Thanks for the clarification! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by multibodydynamics
nah, skip A+ class and make it at least ZEN class, or even better would be MACH class! that's where the real speed is ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leungbok
edit: don't forget to open up 'Zone Battle' a bit, max goal 75 would be great...
Interesting. They've only shown the UI from HD in the demo people are making videos about, even with the 2048 ships. While I don't know if 2048 also allowed the use of HD's UI, it makes me wonder if they'll bring in alternative UIs from all over the series like they kinda did with 2097 and wip3out in HD.
We forgot to mention another feature that goes with this new collection.
Not a pleasant one to be honest. Now we have to pay for the multiplayer.
Hope this won't affect PS3 servers, which - I believe - are still alive.
where did you see the video with 2048 ships? it doesnt exists...Quote:
Originally Posted by shoryusatsu999
Mannjon! It's been way too long since I last saw ya mate. Since I don't have a Vita, I never got to play 2048. Can't wait to meet y'all on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mannjon
Yeah this is true. Ain't got a PS4 either since I moved to PC after it got released. I couldn't justify paying for a service I'm already paying for in the first place. I don't really care about the extra perks you get when you have PS+ anyway. Bummer, but if it means I'll get to play 2048 online I'll have to signup for at least a few months!Quote:
Originally Posted by chalovak
Technically, the game's physics model is integrated directly into the ship's stats. Right down to the bug where the Triakis didn't lose any speed while turning in WipE'out'' Pure.Quote:
Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
The HD-style menus were using 2048 UI colors, so that's something.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoryusatsu999
just hope for a real remaster, new modes, rankings, online and fps enhancements. Crossplay with less powerfull devices would makes it more difficult to obtain imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by Cipher
Leungbok ... PRESIDENT !! :clap
Leungbok PRESIDENT :rock
Oh God, Will we have to deal with "Who Found" "which" "BR" position at any track. sort of thing AGAIN
Last time I contacted Piraphic he said he had deleted HD from his PS3.
God help us if he decides to take on the OMEGA pack with a vengeance.....I some how doubt it though.
@ blackwiggle: it'll still be the same games, just more pretty. so all the BRs and stuff is already well known! all the shortcuts will be in there as well. just the anulpha zone glitch won't work anymore, which is a good thing. another good thing about PS4 is, it's impossible to play on an old version. you always get the newest version of a game and cannot revert back to prior versions like it used to be on PS3 / vita...
Not from me at least !!Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwiggle
I'll probably buy the omega collection (except if the content is too much disappointing), but i'll not be as much active on forums as i did before. i'll play casually just to get some adrenalin with "anti-grav. sensations".
PirahpAAAAAc ... mazette !Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwiggle
And don't care about who have found what .... Master "Gandalf" Leungbok and "Captain Hook" Pirahpac will find some new things ... For sure ! they 've found almost br and shortcut on phantom class :pirate ( Phantom , the speed to be...
( trying french "calembourt" in english :paperbag )) on WOHD PS3. :P
J'ai hâte - French thought ^^
I'm hoping that the leaderboards will be completely fixed with the remaster, since our rankings are tied to our accounts I'm hoping that Sony / the dev team aren't lazy and port the PS3 leaderboards over as well and keep the old standings. I would like to know the definitive positions of my Zone runs without some guy who did 12 zones holding 1st place :P
Also while one can only dream, imagine if they merge 2048 with HD so you could use 2048 ships in the HD tracks and HD ships on the 2048 tracks, that would be mint xD
FX400 and FX350 vehicles would be overpowered on AGRC circuits, especially since the physics are tied directly into the ship's HandlingStats.XML
The AGRC ships would be interesting to use in WipEout HD though, because they are a lot physically smaller. Going the other way around would require the FX350 ships to get magically shrunken.
I try to imagine devs point of view. A wipeout on PS4 (even a remaster) have the potential to attract new players on the franchise (which is a very good thing imo). It could be totally disturbing for a newcomer to check rankings and to see his record (good or bad) miles away from the top scores of guys with already hundred hours of try hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakenator1
Well I suppose it depends on the type of person that newcomer is, some may see it as a challenge that they're willing to undertake (practice hard to become one of the best) or as you say may be totally put off it. That is something that we can't predict as everybody is different, but I firmly believe having a new leaderboard system to fix the problems with the old one is good practice for those who want to achieve the fastest race time/ highest zone scores.
Me personally I'm only in it for the Zone records, to which I need to start practicing again to make sure I can still get those 135 zone runs consistently.
How many of those Speed Lap or Time Trial records used the BR boost start that was available for a short time before SL removed it?
I agree with Leungboks point about new players, so I think Sony will start from scratch with new records......but if they do, it would seem rather pointless running two servers for what would basically be the same games, so I could see the decision being made to shut down the PS3 one.
Plus you have the fact that the music no longer works, and that the voice chat never worked [who know's they might get it working on the new version ]
Maybe those who previously had trouble using the PS3 controllers dome knobbed sticks to do BR's, might have better luck with the concaved top sticks of the PS4 controllers, and as such find their times have greatly improved over their best PS3 times.
Remember that somebody that was about 7 or 8 when HD was released, and obviously not the greatest at the game at that time, would now be about 14 or 15 and have the dexterity to play HD well.......a whole new generation that the current record holders have never seen on the track before.
Could be quite interesting if it gets a big influx of new pilots......this place will be humming again that's for sure.
BSB is still alive ...Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwiggle
And It's only avalaible on speed lap mode
I've never use BSB ( almost ^^ ) coz i don't think it 's a legit way to play the game .. It's my feeling and my choice .
I 've never seen ingame leaderboard or ranking working without any pb ... Always cheater , glitch , exploit or server issues , etc ....
we'll see ^^ :beer
exactly, and it's more powerful now, then ever before ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tug_14
Buuuuh! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JFthebestJan
But indeed, it could be interesting to see, how they are going to deal with the glitches and whether they to change some of the invisible borders. They always to be put there randomly.
If i purchase that collection, i'll probably focus on the games included, because until now HD has been my only wipeout experience. Well, maybe i hop more often in the HD multiplayer but i won't spend as much time as i did in the SLs before.