The trick is... use a sombrero lol
Like I always say... WipEout is just like Sex. External is fun, but... Internal is the Real Deal ;)
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The trick is... use a sombrero lol
Like I always say... WipEout is just like Sex. External is fun, but... Internal is the Real Deal ;)
lol, that has got to be the best wipeout comparison ever...
I cannot stand the internal view to be honest, makes me even worse than normal xD :P
I dig this topic up just to say that I totally agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMannevond
I've given internal view a try and I'll stick to it. Im not used to it yet but I'm really enjoying the game even more and I can see that I already have much better lines in corners.
Internal view is wierd to me after you perform a barrel roll.
I've always played internal view, but I'm trying to switch to get used to the external view.
I was hoping it would help me with the beat Zico trophy (Damn you Zico!) but I'm starting to wonder how wise that decision is.
Used to play internal with d-pad, and now I'm trying external with analog stick. (haven't played wipeout in a long time, and now, from other games I'm used to the analog stick and find piloting much smoother with it, with the exception of barrel rolls which I just can't yet consistently land onto the narrow pass.
I've also changed my button config just last night, so at the moment I'm piloting like a drunken monkey. (not that I was ever very good).
So I guess I'd have to say I prefer internal view, but I'm trying to adapt to external view, at least long enough to see if I can beat Zico.
Hi Vilael,
when i began playing WO, some guy said internal
view gives you some advantage concerning cornering.
That's true so far.
What he did not mention was, that you will never
become a good time-trialer or online-gamer without
excessive barrel-rolling. This is exactly the point why
i switched (man this was superhard !!!) to external
view after 8 months of WO. One week later i had some besttimes, i formerly could only dream of.
BR's are so much easier to handle with external view.
Hey Vilael... Don't think that Beating Zico with a view that is not your nature view will help you. And... What about "piloting like a drunken monkey"? xD I do it all the time ahaha
Here's my "Legend of Drunken Zico" and I play internal ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AP5feyrK04
and just for fun, here's my "The Beat of Iron Zico Tournament"... You'll see what that is ahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtNDgw0PLls
Always Internal ;)
LOL, aye.. I've seen and been amazed by both of those videos before!
It's more likely my skill level than the camera (shhhh) but.., but I thought I'd try something new.
I just have a rough time landing the pass barrel roll, no matter how I do it. I'll keep practicing and see if I can get used to the external view.
If not I guess I'll go back to internal, but I can see where external view may make it easier to land the barrel rolls in the long run.
Wish had had the reflexes I had when I was 19 again. :redface:
Also changed my accelerator button for playing online (so I can launch weapons without taking my finger off the accelerator) and moved my airbrakes from L2/R2 to L1/R1. Just trying to reprogram myself and break old habits is the hardest part.
There should be a trophy for that!
I'm a bit late, but... external sex?Quote:
Originally Posted by xtriko
I always played the old wipeouts with external, later on when i graped my old ps1 with wipeout i used internal to beat my mates, from that point i felt like internal gave me a better speed rush! I wanted more, i bought a PS3 with wipeout HD and now I always play with internal, played the first few weeks external but the game just felt so mutch better internal!! zone 80+ speeds are just crazy internal it is a must for all players!!
I started playing WO around 96, was 16 y-o by then, still though I ever played that game with external view. It is just awful, it makes the all experience just wasted....just beurrkkk.
I actually crossing my finger that the next WO will have a cockpit view from inside the ship, so the HUD would be projected onto the ship window...if you dont see my point look at the 2097 intro, and pause it, u'll see my point....
I started with external view in Pure and later in Pulse.After meeting" Master Asa"on Wipeout Convention in Frankfurt who told me internal view would be only real Wipeoutfeeling, i switched to internal and he is right!:dizzy
Drunken master knows ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by xtriko
I find it hard to do the internal TRIPLE br on ubermall. Dizzy :S
Yelder!, yes you is right after I had been stoned and I decided to play internal and it did blown me away!:bat
stevie:)
Oh wow a long thread I haven't posted in yet...I'd better get to it!
I've always played in internal view, to get that more realistic feeling :) just like all my fellow internal view compatriots have already said. When I switch to external it feels really odd, and looks like I'm piloting a remote control car or something...the only time I've really enjoyed external view at all is in W3O SE, since the contrails are just soooooo yummy looking. :)
So now I see for sure, who are my true WipEout siblings, ye all play internal view. Let us take over the world...
Really though, it becomes extremely difficult sometimes to know where the ship is while playing internal view. In particular, many tricks in Pure I just couldn't pull off since unaware off how my ship was oriented. (Though that changed once I realized the nose had been stuck in the air for ages LOL) And in HD, I have had a few extremely strange (to me) experiences of getting stuck in Sol 2 wing panels after having no clue of where the ship was...
yeah, i LOVE the internal view since HD (
I've played Wipeouts since Psygnosis)
The sad part is you don't get to see the beauty of the ship in nosecam.
I ultimately wonder if the view slows or speeds up your lap times!??
Can't wait to race some of you sometime!.... (cprosick) CAN
I've always found that Internal view and closest view gave me better times, seeing as the turning is more precisely seen
also, it's easier to aim plasmas :clap
just played a few hours internal on a 50" plasma in 3D
the quad BRs gave me the rest.. :blarg
its not so easy after playing external for years, just switch to internal an throw another record...
by the way: how many YouTube Records have you seen from internal view? 8)
I've always played using internal view since my first few laps done with the first WipEout. External view simply won't get me that pure and fantastic high speed feeling which I am experiencing using internal view.
After more than a decade of internal view I found that I simply cannot switch back to external. I've tried to switch views with the introduction of BR in Pure and after some insane and mind blowing stunts in Freeplay mode on Vohl Square but external view simply doesn't work for me anymore. It's always me screwing up badly because I'm not able to determine the right points for turning and thus I either end up crashing into walls a lot or correcting my lines with some heavy airbraking when I use external view. It seems this is a bit like marriage for me - there's no turning back once you've made up your mind. ;) And even if I get a headache after a phantom ride at Vohl Square or after a triple BR at Khara Descent this still feels better than a lot of wall crashing or loosing speed due to too much airbreaking.
So true.Quote:
External view simply won't get me that pure and fantastic high speed feeling which I am experiencing using internal view.
I'm going to say there will be very few world records ever set in internal view in any wipeout (P.S. Unless you're asa! ;) ), because it's way harder to tell how close you are to the edge of the track in internal view. More of the cons of using internal view are: it's very hard to tell how much in the air your ship is (for the newer games, limits BR attempts),Quote:
by the way: how many YouTube Records have you seen from internal view?
it's very hard to see (when you're using Leech Beam, going through explosions, firing plasmas...etc.),
it's impossible to know who is around you or behind you (without looking back).
But, this is all outweighed by the feeling of being in the cockpit. 8) Just like you said Tomahawk. It's fun all the way!
I use "internal view" in car racing games as it is actually "internal" and you can see the dashboard and all the internal instruments i.e- change gear and turn the steering wheel.
But internal view on wipeout isn't internal... its just an external camera stuck on the very front of the ship. It would be good to have real internal view so you can see your ships internal gizmos and see the pilot play with his joystick :lol and also you would see the ship surround you and reach out several meters in front! I hope this will be implemented in a future release!!
didn't wipeout3 have that?
I use bumpercam in wipeoutHD, but I use a chasecam in the PSP and original playstation wipeouts.
in order to play HD in bumpercam I have to sit very close to the TV, however.. I don't really know what's going on in my head here...
you soon grow accustomed to the ship edges relative to track edge. you find your line, and the feel you gain for the width of your ship is much like knowing where the far side of your car is when driving.
In car games I tend to use the camera so it shows the bonnet (hood for you americans) but I don't want to see the dash. I especially don't want to see the steering wheel.
It always seemed silly to me seeing a steering wheel on screen if I am playing with a wheel in my hands
Yes and no. Actually it was just a bitmap layer above the bumber cam. Because you would actually see the hood or engines (imagine how Goteki45 would look like from the cockpit).Quote:
Originally Posted by Lion
Haha, same here for a long time. I’m trying to switch to internal now, though. It simply offers the best feeling of pure speed. But especially with the original WipEouts it’s a lot harder because of the extreme drifting of the crafts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lion
WipEout Fusion had that! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lion
Hm..*Don´t know how I did this, but sorry. Please delete. Thanks.*
Absolutely. But I compare the opportunity costs of the rush-feeling with better times you seem to be capable to get using external. But still, I prefer the "I am actaully riding that damn vehicle"-feeling. I would take effort to really get used to the external. It just feels wrong somehow...Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa
Ive recently started redoing the HD campaign and decided i would use internal view.
ive gotten more used to it now, its great! the sense of speed is so much better and it just feels as if you have more control :+ kind of gotten used to the Barrel rolling, just trying to get the short cuts to work whilst the screen spins ;)
internal convert maybe?:g
I've been doing both campaign modes the last couple of days with my girlfriend's little brother. As it was on novice AI I decided I'd make it more interesting by using Internal view, and I have to say, it's ace! Even little things like absorbing and shielding are more involved, and BRs are cool as fk. I particularly like Zone, Detonator and Eliminator for it, leech beems have never looked as good as when you're weaving from side to side and looking though the beam. :)
One downside however is that you don't seem to get the same feel of the handling characteristics for each ship, and I can't imagine doing any decent TTs or SLs with it.
I accidently flipped the view before a race online yesterday and had to race with it on modesto reverse... It wasn't SO bad for the first time, but I did a barrel roll and my eyes took a crap on my brain.lol. Then, I actually tried the far view and to my surprise it felt natural. Still I switched back to the close view because I wanted to use the view I was familiar with online. I think i may give that far view a try again though. The advantage of having better vision of the area behind your ship were apparent even though I only tried it for one race.
At first internal made me feel a bit sick, particularly on Zone, but I managed to get to Subsonic on Moa Therma. It certainly adds another dimension to the game, I'm going to use internal much more from now on,
Like I said a few years ago...
WipEout is like sex. External is "fun", but... Internal is the real deal ;) lol
Yeah internal view is more impressive than ext.
I use int on zone/battle zone. But for race external is better for BR (for me ;) )
Funny thing : I'm currently in the train and I was playing Pure. I thought : let's try internal view. Easy track : Porto Kora. First lap is a disaster and I actually made an impressive comeback and won. Surprise : I did beat my lap record on lap 5! :)
Congrats Temet :) I understand that internal is not so easy to control on BR's and SPECIALLY when you play online and get rammed. I lost many races cuz of situations like that. what can also happen is, you ramming ppl without even knowing. the final result may not be (usualy) as good as the "external" pilots, but, in my honest opinion, way more fun to come if you go internal. this might sound a little "xxx" but... I always go internal xD
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I'm switching back and forth, I'm trying internal in HD and sticking with it in PulsE (It's hard to see the next corner in external on a small screen :|)
I always though it was a lot more fun though because it's the true WipEout experience. I always wondered why the devs set Internal view when you first play the game, but that's because that's the WipEout experience in it's most pure form 8) .
Funny thing with barrelrolls – but for me that’s to nervous tunnel :dizzy:dizzy trough - I can’t find the right handling at it – need quit a lot of races and when i change back aarrgg - too much shrink shrank LOL