OK. Where is the article? Has anyone linked to it in this thread? I can't see any price details in the one linked to in the first post.
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OK. Where is the article? Has anyone linked to it in this thread? I can't see any price details in the one linked to in the first post.
http://au.ps3.ign.com/objects/143/14346729.html
If you look closely before the page loads entirely it says MSRP: $27.99.
I feel inclined to just wait until E3, but ****, that's a long way away.
OK. Well I'll just have to take you guys' words for it. I can't find a price anywhere on that page. Even turned ad-block off and searched the whole page for "msrp", "28", and "$". I got nothing - how strange.
It's like it disappears once the page is fully loaded as if they don't want you to see it...whatever.
Hmm this sounds good, but I'd prefer a good DLC (new tracks) + some fixes,
than another, probably inferior game (the gameplay has evolved and I think
Wipeout HD gameplay is better than any previous wipeout).
Resolved link
Now it will show the price and date correctly.
i think this thread is the perfect example of their needing to be better communication with fans. for example.
1. the so-called official wipeout site's 'latest news' advertising the fact the wipeout pulse packs are now available.
this is not the latest wipeout news in the slightest, is incorrect and also taunting those who have not been given the oportunity to purchase this promised content.
2. despite various sources giving us info on the apparent release of wipeout 2097 on psn, wipeout pulse on ps2, wipeout pulse on ps3 and now wipeout 2097 on ps3...sony or studio liverpool have not even clarified things.
i think they need a weekly/monthly update or something. i would suggest the official site, but it is a bit of a joke.
maybe studio liverpool could request of infoxicated a weekly/monthly thread, that only they could post in...to keep fans apraised of studio activity. Would Sony or Studio Liverpool's top peeps have anything against that, if the information was offical, correct and controlled to protect themselves and/or any of their products been represented!?
just a thought.
I don't know how far reverse-engeneering goes on the PS1, but I can imagine to at least get back the polygons of the tracks, meaning there's a chance that at least tracks can be re-constructed based on their original code.Quote:
Originally Posted by eLhabib
Nonetheless: I fully agree with those who doubt an 2097-HD. I simply cannot see it happen.
It's probably just like WO1 in the Store; simply a 1:1 port with wrong price tag.
whatever the case, i hope someone from Studio liverpool clears things up about this and the supposed pulse port.
or Sony pull their finger out and take advantage of E3 in a few weeks and put things straight!
First I have heard of it.
I can state 100% no work is being done on this, so its 100% likely just the old psone ver appearing on the store. Ergo no 15player online or whatever else you might think
I'm just gonna post that AGAIN in case anyone wants to quote me wrongly..
I can state 100% no work is being done on this, so its 100% likely just the old psone ver appearing on the store. Ergo no 15player online or whatever else you might think
Of course, I could be wrong, there could be a whole room of people on a secret floor of a secret building making this...
But there isnt
Turn your excitement factor down a notch, its just the Ps3 compatible dload release of the Psone ver.
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Oh and wipeout Pulse on PS3 .. . ?
Let me kill that one dead as well, Amazon have that wrong.
Unfortunately, Studio Liverpool =/= Working Designs as far as audience and fan communication.
lol pwnt
Thanks for clearing it up Colin, appreciated.
Well to be honest we arent really supposed to say anything, thats down to SONY EUROPE MARKETING, not the Studio Liverpool DEV TEAM. Its not our job, indeed we have to be very careful to not cross a line.Quote:
Originally Posted by AG-wolf
Still, we kind of go a little against what we are supposed to do, and people like myself, crob, paul etc post things up when we feel we can and when we feel its worth it, though each time we do, we run the risk of fan backlash or indeed pissing someone off internally.
Its no more the job of studio liverpool to keep the fans updated, than it would be for a factory worker of Pepsi, to tell people about new and exciting sugar free caffeine free pepsi free cans of pepsi.
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I'll add to that and say, that press releases, information to fans about games / dlc, etc etc, is planned and handled particular ways for a reason.
That is why they have press days, and E3s and the like. You cant necessarily expect a company to make announcements via a fansite, ok I am 100% sure someone can find an example where that is done, but it is not the norm.
Lets take for example the DLC pack for HD, its being worked on, it is coming. When ? When its ready. What is it ? There will be a planned announcement of its contents closer to release to build talk about it. Once its been announced then members of the team can talk more freely about it, but until then they cant.
any communication is welcome... it adds a more "real" atmosphere to the development process. Shame the bureaucratic bullsh** of most companies tries to tone that down :/
Colin - thanks for the honesty on the XL/2097 bit.
That said - I would totally throw down serious cake for a re-done XL/2097 in 1080p. I know how much $$$ it would cost, and how difficult it would be without original source, ect...
Think 2097 is my favorite to date.... Never got to play W3SE - heard that was pretty epic as well. (SCEA has denied me the pleasure on that one)
To dream....
Brilliant! :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RJ O'Connell
Thanks Colin, for the information. Now I can point newbies to this thread too and be crapped upon. :)
Maybe that'll be the version of Wipeout 3 they'll add to PSN. I hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by IH8YOU
thankyou Colin!
that has cleared a lot up. Much appreciated.
You and the Studio Liverpool guys do a great job and it must be hard when you cannot talk to the fans about certain things...even if you want to.
We understand, and when you throw us the odd bit of news and clarification it is well recieved. :)
Again. Thankyou!
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Originally Posted by IH8YOU
I'd love to see XL in HD too, but unless the game is exactly the same other than the improved resolution, it might be a mighty disappointment. The closest anything can come would probably be having XL/2097 DLC tracks in WOHD, and just making their entire color-scheme/atmosphere/etc look just like it did in XL, except updated.Quote:
Originally Posted by AG-wolf
Thanks for the info Colin! How about Pulse on PS2? Is that incorrect info aswell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin Berry
thanks for the information. what would be nice would just be analog moveiment for the ships though, since analog was in xl, albeit with a negcon. I know it's very unlikely though. Pulse on ps2 sounds very possible to me now, based on colin's comments, time to start another rumor :)
El Habib: One thing of note though. The PC version of XL was made to run on the mac, so they must have had the code to adjust certain things? maybe ? If it can run on a PC/mac, or a computer, it would seem possible to make it run on a Ps3 I think, and the good graphics as well. I don't know if they could add to the graphics or not though.
+1 with this. Right now, only psp's can do analog, but there's an option for it, so I don't see why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
I imagine that once they can modify the game, they could modify the polygons as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
But they won't. Because a design-update takes time. Even though WOHD is based on Pure's and Pulse's tracks it took them months to reach the graphical experience we have now. You cannot simply place a building here and more details there. The graphical update would most likely take most of the time.
And once you update the design only, people are craving for more which would then end in a 2097HD. With more modes, more models and more options - to compete with WOHD.
And that's exactly the thing that won't happen, just like Colin said.
then what would be awesome would just be a conversion of the pc version instead of the ps1 version. It would be like a new game. Also, the PC version already has analog support, so there would be no need to add it. I know this is not going to happen, but here is wishing.
OH, there was multiplayer with the mac/pc version as well, lan I believe. Doh!! now I want it.
AFAIK, the guys at SL stated some time ago that they had lost all the data for the old games, that's what I meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
The game was released back in January 2002; the question is when they lost the code.
And note that the game itself wasn't changed as far as I remember. For example: The added option to choose a higher resolution is outside the game; before you actually get in the game itself.
Maybe that's an indication for the game itself not being changed (?).
http://www.x-cult.org/ has a good community of members who are rather adept when it comes to programming... They reverse-engineered a number of older games to get the source code from them; there's a possibility someone there could accomplish something
to find back the old source code from Neggie as well ?
Never!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by multibodydynamics
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...pf_rd_i=468294
going on this sudden change from ps3 with a mock up ps3 box picture, to ps2 with no mock up...it would seem to be coming out on ps2 in a couple of weeks :)
cheeper here, uk shoppers!!!
http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStatio...e/Product.html
this is not on the same scale as madden, but I thought companies were about making money. This is not against colin and the guys making the game, since they are probably muzzled by the marketing dept
seriously here. There are two sites here saying june 12 release date. I would order immediately if I knew this was true. If it is true, this is complete bullshit that noone knows about it yet besides the stores, and the sony marketing department is ASS. If it is not coming out at this time, just ****ing tell us. Who the **** keeps their games secret, what a crock of ****. Sorry, but this is ridiculous. I have never seen this happen with other games. They might get delayed, but they tell you, not to mention that you actually know about them. Did you ever see EA just say, oh, you know what, madden is getting released next week, but let's not advertise or tell anyone about it. yes, this is not on the same scale as madden, but I thought companies were about making money.
I mean, angry rant aside, what the hell. What is the problem with just saying whether it is, or is not being released on the specified dates of two large stores? I don't understand what there is to hide, it's not like anyone is competing with hovercraft racing games. they have a monopoly ATM, so take advantage of it. Do you really want to sell a maximum of 2164 copies of the game?
Al, see here.
I will start a thread about this, because we are all asking this question. I believe our concerns to be fully justified. We are paying customers as well as fan, and both of these aspects of us hate being left in the dark.
As you said, there is absolutely no reason for them to withhold information about published release dates on websites like amazon. Saying "Yes" or "No" to whether its correct is not a big deal, but it's a big deal when you don't say anything. You can't expect people to buy something that suddenly comes up without any warning. That's just wrong.
What we want is not developer insight or special informations about the games, we only want to know what is going on. And what is going on right now? We have no idea. We know DLC is WIP for HD. We don't know what, when, where, how much. We know WipEout XL/2097 has been rated by the ESRB for release as a PS1 Classic. We don't know when, where, how much. We know Pulse is being ported to the PS2. We don't know when, where, how much.
It should come to no surprise that there are so few WipEout players in the world, considering what we know, and what we don't know. Also, keep in mind that everything we know, still has yet to be confirmed by Sony. There hasn't been an announcement about DLC. There hasn't been an announcement about XL/2097 appearing on the PlayStation Store any time soon. There hasn't been an announcement about WipEout Pulse on PS2. How do you expect any good result then?
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I picked up 2097 yesterday from a charity shop for £1.50 :g what a bargain!!
You know whats the cool thing about 2097 is that its such a high benchmark game, and even today you get random people still talking about it over half a decade over its release.
I was talking to an old family friend of mine, he said you remember that awesome game back on the original Playstation that had all the Red Bull advertisements on it as well as that killer sound track on? 2097 is ****ing awesome, im looking forward to the opportunity to buy it off the PSN store in the near future, have it on my PS3 as well as my PSP. Awesome:D
Half decade? Double that. ;)
Edit: gawd im gettin old. XL/2097 release date Sept 1996. I wasnt even driving then.. Zomg!
Sorry ****ing typo there.
I was ment to mean, nearly a decade and a half. Damn miss the 90s so much:frown: This decade was so crap.
Word, miss those days.
i agree with what JABBERJAW said above and Darkdrium's thread is very interesting. something is very wrong with sony marketing this generation. so called 'smaller games' need promoting too. see any xbox live arcade game for example, promoted well. sell well.
just to confirm JABBERJAW's comments on the multiple site's thing here's a third site stating the same release date!!!:
http://www.game.co.uk/PS2/Racing/~r3...WipEout-Pulse/
someone needs to say yes this game is coming, get fans excited and people with ps2's interested. i can't believe anyone is waiting to announce this one at E3, one week before it's release. HD content, yes. pulse ps2...no thats just stupid beyond beleif.
It should be about right or just right.Quote:
Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
Yes and yes. People know, but since Sony keeps delaying games without explanation who still gives a .... until it's actually f...... out?Quote:
this is complete bullshit that noone knows about it yet besides the stores, and the sony marketing department is ASS.
And about D777's long thread: Sony marketing is virtually non-existent. It's not just WipEout. What else can you say.
I think I have, actually. IIRC. ;)Quote:
I have never seen this happen with other games.
Ben