Sebenco Climb & Chengou Project on Phantom Elite

I'm not sure about in the campaign, sorry if I misread your post. I thought you were talking about the arcade perfect trophy. I know you can turn the weapons off and still get arcade perfect. The best thing you can do is stick at it and practice. Try and learn a new racing line and if you're blowing up a lot you might want to switch ship for a short while if if has low shield or try to be a bit more conservative with your weapons usage, if you don't already try to absorb more to keep high energy.

Just did it! Was in the lead by the end of lap 2 and just ran for it!

Changed to the Feisar for this one.

My plan of action was to absorb everything except turbo's auto pilots and shields.

I reckon arcade perfect will be a doddle in comparison to that!

I'll post my video now since I had done it a bit for this type of thread:

Chengou Project Phantom Elite

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Thats a great run there as well.
Have decided to platinum the game so thats campaign done!

Next up Zico!

I don't want this to seem like i'm putting people down or that i'm big headed but i'm 100% sure this is easyer now with the 1.30 update. I tryed these before the update and had problems getting into the top 3 but since the update i did both first try and as i'm not a phantom pilot i can't put it down to practice? Some else who's already done this give it a try and tell us what you think.

I had most of them done Gold before as I had the game from launch. However due to some hard drive error my game save was lost and I had to redo a lot!

I have to be honest I found t harder (from memory) as there seemed to be a huge number of bombs and mines. It may have been the same earlier (or easier) but i don't remember it as such.

I re race the whole of Meltdown against Elite and found it easier than before,but I honestly put it down to practice more than any changes in the way the offline plays.

Even if you don't race Phantom all that often,if you put in enough time in Rapier [especially online against tough opponents ] you are bound to have gotten better,and therefore found it easier.

Hum hum, how strange.
I'm started to run campaign in Elite last week end and now I have 3 medals missing.
Guess what? Chengou, Sebenco and the Tournament (didn't try this one yet... not ready).
So I searched '"sebenco climb" phantom' in google and I landed here...
Apparently I'm facing a usual issue.
Well, I have to practice ;)

This is surely one of the only ridiculous things in WipEout HD that gets to me, and I don't think I'll ever not have issues with it. It took ages to figure out whether I just suck on Chenghou Project, or if the AI is actually given some sort of boost to enrage me.

Personally, I kinda laugh at people that always "blame the game".. but after acing the Zone event on this track on the first go, nailing the speed laps usually on the first go... and being able to win the other races on other tracks within first ten tries.. this track is completely different with the AI for races to me. Sometimes you get lucky and win by over a second, but majority of the time you have the track mastered and you still just have no chance, coming in the bottom three six seconds behind...

I hate myself for taking the "blame the game" route on this one.. but surely, hopefully, you get what I mean? I don't have this issue on any other track :/ It really gets to me.

I really had a bad time on this track's when I first platinum'ed the game... I had really to try over and over... Now that I have a new account, here I go to platinum it again... Wish me luck...

I understand Miguel, I've started a new account too, and am close to re-platinuming it. :D Most of the stuff felt much easier now that I'm more experienced, but Chenghou still has no mercy :(

The Zone and Speed Lap events in the campaign are easier to medal than the single races and tournaments, I find.

Chenghou Phantom Elite was certainly the most difficult for me, but now I can get into first well before the start of the last lap pretty easily. It's not ridiculously difficult for the hardest setting in the game.

Before anyone else complains about this event, be sure to mention whether you have elite gold medals in every other event AND whether your PS3 fried on you while trying to get it on a hot July 4th and giving you the YLOD, destroying your saved game and anything you didn't sync online. Yep. It can get more frustrating, believe me. :P

I'd try using Feisar and see how you get on :)

ive had the yellow light of death twice now losing everything, had to play through campaign to unlock the tracks and ships and lost all my ghosts. i got my current ps3 the day fury came out so i made myself go back and re-do all my old times (beat them all except 4 BSB times :redface:), so in a wierd way im glad it happened.

anyway bit off topic there. these 2 tracks are unforgiving if you make any mistakes and the AI can be brutal with the weapons, as everybody keeps saying its just down to practice. why not have a few goes at the time trial of each track before you race to get a feel for the track without the distraction of "QUAKE, MISSILE, ROCKETS, CONTENDER ELIMINATED"

it took me many a time to beat those courses i did exactly as shapealot said

subenco wasnt too hard for me cos you got so many BR you can stick in to win.
chengu project was hard cos it has less options for BR

but for me sol forward was the hardest.even with two br per lap and a perfect run i had trouble winning and had to rely on A.I playing poorly to win.

i'm having major problem with chenghou on phantom-elite...
the A.I. opponents have gone berserk and and they drive like they are cheating!beside that they are throwing bombs and mines only on me,i am really frustrated!
i have no serious problems with the other tracks, only chengou :'(
the only gold medals i am missing on phantom-elite are chenghou and the tournament...
i have to admit that i found beating zico and zeus easier than the chenghou race alone!
i guess i need more practice...

:nodscary thing is when you are finally good enough to beat chengu on phantom elite you will still be average online in a phantom race on chengu with many players .thats how good the standard of many players who play phantom.
elite golds means you are ready to really start to learn from the pros out their playing.

the standard on many online players is shockingly good..

no one should ever feel gutted when they dont win a race due to this fact.just racing to your best is one should need to do.

I'm going to put my WO bluray in a mixer !!!!
At least one hour on sebenco and couldn't get better than 4th place...

Just did Elite Campaign again, so my feeling on it is, always go for the speed pads first and any weapons you pick up make sure you use it to good effect. Learn the shortcuts/Boost BRs as the AI just can't live with it.

on subenco when you are in the tunnel that travels upwards use a turbo into Br that kills the A.I its a big time saver

oh and on first bump push down your nose otherwise the BR is a waste of time..

and the last bend as you head towards the big tunnel..well i never bother with the BR i just focus on hitting the speed pad so i can get the double BR in the tunnel on the way down.but if your hot you can do all 3. but for elite you wont need that much speed.

I got Sebenco !!!!!
At least 6/8 hours on this track to get gold!!!!
Gosh, I did several 2'08" races and couldn't win... I saw some guys having gold with 2'11"...
Finally, with a 2'09", I got it!
I was third in right turn before the last uphill (good english word??), I do the last BR before the zigzag and get 1st. I panic, I screw the last turn but still stay first.

Yahoo !!! Remaining Chengou.
I did few tries... AI is quite different. On Sebenco they are fast but not so agressive (well, I can finish the race). On Chengou, they were not so fast but I got killed 75% of time and I'm hit as soon as I have someone behind o_O'. Not cool.

well done Temet! ;)

at last i passed the cursed chenghou on phantom-elite this morning!yeah!
feisar really makes the difference here! everyone dont give-up! luck also is needed...
i also got the gold in tournament fairly easy,on my 3rd try...
again feisar works like miracle(won 5 of 8 races,even chenghou xD)
only arcade perfect left for Trancendence!!! yoohoo!:D

I'm late, I didn't get the zone trophies, the 100 000 points or AG assassin and Endurance...
I just got gold on Chengou, a LOT easier than Sebenco for me... less than 1 hour to get it. As I wrote before, AI is quite slow on this one... if you get lucky enough not get shot, easy to get first. No so easy to stay 1st. I think this one can be easy without weapons ;)
Well, I don't feel the courage to fight for tournament... :paperbag

Sebenco is murdering me even in Rapier class on Novice!

I think this is the one in the lower right corner on the Head Rush event. I spend most of the time in 7th or 8th and can maybe jump up to 5th in the final lap. Once I finally managed to get a bronze medal, but that unadorned brown medal looks pretty pathetic next to the Skilled and Elite golds around it!

Somehow the AI ships get out to a 4-second lead in the first part of the first lap and the I spend the rest of the race catching up with them. I know I'mnot that awful, because I keep closing the lead, but I'm still about 2 seconds behind in the end. The winner will finish in 2:05:80 and I'll be around 2:08; sometimes that's last place.

I can't even imagine Phantom. Those turns must be insane.

@Xavier
you have to master side-shifting!
practice in time trials or speed lap :)

...and Barrel-Roll like your life depends on it :nod

I think there's maybe 10-11 per lap, maybe more if you're name is Leungbok :dizzy. Obviously one wouldn't use all of them in a race but it's pretty good to know them just in case :)

I don't use side-shift, I won.
But still, I'm veeerrryyy angry just now, ****ing stupid game! :evil

Me too, I completed those challenges without sideshift, I thought it was only
useful to avoid a bomb or something, but in fact it's a big time cutter.
You really go seconds faster when you use it.

Haha, same! Actually if it wasn't for youtube (thanks Mad-Ice & Wowo especially) I probably wouldn't have started using sideshift.

Woohoo I can go sideways AND travel in a straight line....woohoo? :lol

Hum, do you have a link or something explaining how to use this?
I mean, I know the double-tap on airbreak, but don't know why to use it.
I know you can gain some precious seconds since the guy beating-Zico-without-BR almost sideshifts every 3 seconds...

Temet man, you've got that far without sideshift! My god, you must be pretty good.
I too was ignorant of the power of the side shift, however, after struggling for a while on Sol2/Flash/elite, I decided to see if it was useful.

And it was.

My advice is to do some practice on Sol2. On the first "spiral corner", use side shift to keep you on track for the speed pad upon exit ( I find this speed pad to be the most important on the track) and then use it to stay tight, tight, tight to the right hand side on the second spiral (the one downwards). That really trains you for the power of side shift.

By the way. As it took me over an hour to beat Elite on Sol/flash (Shameful I know), maybe we should have a thread for people struggling on speeds lower than Phantom. the reason I mention it is that some of the options available on phantom (I mean some BR opportunities) aren't there on the lower speeds.

Keep at it, I'm half way through campaign 7 on elite and not looking forward to level 8!

Thanks man but I'm far from being good.
I also had my first surprise on Sol2 on Flash... but not so much a big deal.
The real big fight for me was Sebenco on Phantom. I maybe raced for 5 hours on this track !!
I got gold on Chengou in about 1 hour... but now I have to do it again for arcade perfect and can't do it... and I spent more than 1 hour this time (a lot).
I made a break, didn't play since Sunday... when I won Chengou ex-aequo and noticed in statistics that this is not good for Arcade Perfect trophy :'(

I'm still shaking just thinking about reverse tracks...

EDIT : just got gold again on Chengou... yeah in turns sideshifts make you gain lot a time on AI. Indeed, I have been 1st several times but got shot every time. When I won, that's what happened... but I got a boost and used it just after the last turn and won on the line.
I had to do the 500 time on online records to get it... Elite is really hard.

The AI on the reverse tracks is not as hard as forward you will be pleased to know. You will find it much easier to beat them.

o_O'
Strange.
Thanks for the tip, the last remaining forward is Sebenco.
I have to do all reverse tracks except Anulpha.
Anyway, I'll have to learn the shape of the tracks... I always have troubles with this kind of reverse/mirror thing.

Yeah, I won Chengou reverse with EXTREME luck !!!
The combo boost + autopilot is extremely efficient to close the last lap :hyper

Just remaining Metropia, Sebenco, Ubermall, Sol2 (all reverse) and I get platinum without using the 2nd player trick :hyper

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Originally Posted by KGB1971

The AI on the reverse tracks is not as hard as forward you will be pleased to know. You will find it much easier to beat them.

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Oh Okay that is why. I recently thought "How did I manage to get gold on Sebenco, Metropia and Ubermall reverse just a couple of weeks after I began playing WOHD"

I just remember I did Ubermall reverse with Harimau (HD). that was quite easy.

Just got the Elite Campaign Legend trophy:D

Took me about 7 hours total to complete all the races on elite.. Started 2 days ago so have been playing alot last couple of days haha..

Now I only have Zone Zeus and Bling Brigade left:cake

Just got Sebenco Climb Reverse... about 1h45 and 180 laps to win...
Weapons off, highly recommended since the AI is so cheating...
Two times I was first at the last turn and screwed it up...

Ubermall reverse and Sol 2 reverse remaining.
Ubermall is the easiest of all tracks for me to get gold (I don't know why, AI looks not good at this one)... but the few laps I did on reverse are very bad :'(

Once I finish these two races, I don't play this game for several days... I've never been so mad playing a game in my whole life, I'm scaring myself with the anger I can feel...

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Originally Posted by Temet

[...] I've never been so mad playing a game in my whole life, I'm scaring myself with the anger I can feel...

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LooooooooL I know that feeling mate!!! I just love WipEout also for that! :bomb:lol
Once upon a time one of my friends told me that the most a game make you mad, the most the game will be awesome once you learn how to dominate it. SO true! :o