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Another reason for not including the new tracks is that some people have mastered them on Pulse or Pure or whatever , while others (like myself) will be experiencing them for the first time. Sure, by the time the World Cup rolls around, most will be pretty comfortable with them, but not to the same degree as those who have mastered them long ago.
I don't agree, if you think that, then, why not forbid players who have play more than 200 hours at WipEout HD ?
It's the World Cup, with the best players (not all). This guys and girls seem to often play.
I don't tell that for Team France, because only 3 of our players have really played on PSP.
i have pulse and pure...
but the tracks didnt feel the same in HD...
so it's not a direct translation to the same skill.
Handling on hd is totally different than in pulse or pure. I had a long training to be comfortable with HD tracks, even if i already knew the paths. I'm sure it's the case for other pilots. And also, sometimes it's better to discover a track than to try to race it like it was possible on an other platform.
I don't like your comparison...a bit extreme IMO. As you said, the World Cup is comprised of the best players, period. The best players of WOHD, not Pure or Pulse, which is where these new tracks came from. But the best WOHD players out there don't all know the new WOHD tracks from Pure or Pulse yet, as they are NEW (to WOHD), hence a potentially unfair advantage (IMO) this early on. If the WOrld Cup weren't for 6 months from now, then no problem, but that's not the case. OBH already offered one reason why incorporating the new tracks might not be a good idea and I was simply offering another.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaori
@ Leungbok - I hear what you're saying, yes, the handling/feel might be different in WOHD, but the most critical aspect of "learning" the tracks is memorizing their layout, of which will take longer for those of us who have never seen these tracks before.
WO HD tracks are derived from pulse and pure...
Much like the Fury tracks. And as we know they are not that lengthy that we can simply memorize left turn, sharp u right, etc. in a small amount of time.
Finding the best racing lines and barrel rolls takes time and practice. Which you cannot simply apply from experience from the psp versions. The physics are not the same, you have invisible solid barriers on pulse to keep you from going off track as opposed to ship reset.
I dealt with that when i did moa therma rev...was not the same.
Then i tried knowing what i learned in HD to try that on the psp...didnt work out that way.
But this is my opinion based on my experience.
hey guys i just read this post. I may be a bit late but i will be a reserve for the england team if needed. I am a good Rapier Pilot but need to get my practice on Phantom
@ DividedXZero - Yah, I know the "old" WOHD tracks came from Pure and Pulse too, but we've all (the top pilots and most of us here on WOZ) had ample time to acclimate to them already, unlike with these "new" tracks.
This isn't a big deal to me at all really lol. I just thought it was another point to make in regards to whether or not to incorporate the new tracks. If we use them, we use them, it's all good. :)
I would suggest that if people want to see a WipEout HD World Cup, as per the image and underlined acronym the following post, then they forget about Fury for this tournament at least.
http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/sho...79&postcount=1
Avalon races were ruled out for a couple of reasons. Both the most important (yes yes IMO) and the most used reasons for ruling out Avalon races are directly applicable to inclusion of Fury, even if it were deemed a part of HD.
Finally, the current format is as such largely for the sake of speed and simplicity. The only thing that should change now is anything that needs to be adjusted in the rules to make things run more smoothly.
All my opinions, but I think we all want this to happen and should accept it, look ahead, and learn from any mistakes next time, so that the next World Cup is even more of a success.
thank you sat :)
to help clarify -
why no "weapons off" races? -
everyone has their favourite tracks and race types. keeping it simple and use just 1 keeps organising it more...... simple. the idea was also first mentioned 6 months ago, about time we did it! :)
why no FURY tracks? -
simply because i dont know if all those taking part will have bought FURY yet. some teams have only 4 players, its unfair to assume they'll all have it, and if not, wouldnt be able to take part.
theres always next time! :)
im getting the distinct impression that no ones really up for it anymore
Up for what the World Cup?
I think everyone is a little pre-occupied with the Release of fury.
I know im still stoked for the world cup!!!
Ditto! (even if I am only a reserve lol)
Same applies to me!
Same here, mate. Next week's wipEout time will be spent in SL and online flying the new tracks and the new tracks ONLY - gotta learn!
if only there were a proper spectator mode, now that would be killer :P
Thats what i was REALLY hoping for. Could get a camera man :)
I'm sure plenty will record races. Should be good viewing :D And yeldar - you won't need spectator mode because you'll be racing. So there!
it depends when it starts. i'm going to need a few years of practice to be anywhere near good enough to race. motorsagmannen and IH8YOU will vouch for me
shut up you bumder :)