Congratulations to that new record, it`s awsome!! (Even though I believe these are not Venom times, as stated in your post. *g*) I still don`t know how I should go that fast, but believe me, I am off trying - now! :)
Ben
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Congratulations to that new record, it`s awsome!! (Even though I believe these are not Venom times, as stated in your post. *g*) I still don`t know how I should go that fast, but believe me, I am off trying - now! :)
Ben
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oops. meant Vector. i'll edit that right now. and thanks for congrats, Ben
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edit: just checked the 2097 tables. wow, a 32 flat laptime! and a 1:08.2 racetime. congrats to you too. :)
you took 1.3 seconds off your old time.
Thanks back then. :) Race time is still faaar to high, though. I suppose I have a lot to do in terms of fine-tuning my race line. The only bright side is that I care more about lap than race records. ;)
EDIT: Well, I'm a believer now. :) That last session was one exciting hour of racing! It had me fighting for every tenth of a second as I was lowering my times step by step. 1:08.1, 1:08.0, 1:07.8, and finally 1:07.7. That's not as fast as it needs to be, I know, but it's good enough for me, for the moment anyway. After all, I really am more behind single lap than race records. Speaking of which: I lowered the first to a 0:31.9. :)
Now at least I know it's possible to move around that fast over the course. :)
It is SO helpful to have someone raise the mark for a certain track and a certain class a serious bit. Because if no one does I never know if it is possible to go faster in the first place and won't put as much effort into trying as I did just an hour or so ago. These tables are the best thing about WO after the actual games. :)
What's beyond me, though, is how I constantly do, at the classes where we had some sort of a challenge, slower race but faster lap times than you, Lance. Oh and speaking of challenges: Do you feel like going to Rapier or Phantom after finishing Vector? *g*
Ben
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hehe. well, see, i care more about racetimes than laptimes. convenient, no? i didn't even try for laptime last night. my best one during the session was 32.9 on the second lap, and best first lap was 34.3, which is how i know that 1:07.2 is possible. anyway, this may be why we split results the way we do.
hm.... 31.9, eh? hmmmmm.....
moving on? well, probably. i sure would like to do that 1:07.2 though
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Oh, did I forget to mention that after I did 1:07.7 and was about to try some quick laps, I had to go to work...? ;) I'll do some more later and try to keep you busy. :)Quote:
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Anyway, what I meant to reply to is your best first lap. Assuming 2097 and XL are compatible enough, even 1:07.0 or less should be possible, since I did a 0:34.1 on one of my first laps.
Ben
EDIT: Last update for today: 31.6 lap time. I should be able to do better, same goes for race time, but not tonight. :)
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Al says that 2097 is a little faster on Talon's reach. at least on Phantom which is the class he's raced on TR extensively with both versions of the game. i don't know if this is because of possible shortcuts due to extra floatiness [which wouldn't apply in Vector class much] or because Asayyeah's brake-tapping technique is more effective on 2097. or possibly there is a slight basic advantage on 2097. who knows? anyway, if so, it's possible i wouldn't be able to achieve quite as low a best laptime on XL, so i don't know if 1:07 flat is possible. still, i was amazed how small improvements in the execution of the ideal racing line in just one section of the track could take a full tenth of a second off the time. i also found that the exact triggering point of the turbos is not very important. i was getting the same laptimes with widely varying track positions and ship angles at the time of turbo initiation. just thinking about it theoretically, i would have thought it was very important, but in practice, it seems not
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I also thought that maybe I can go faster because of what Al said. But then again I should also be able to do faster race times, don`t you think? No, I rather believe race time records are much more your domain than it is mine. And you`re right, in Vector "sitting" on the right race line is essential to achieving low times.
I also experimented with the turbo. For the most part, I came to the same conclusion as you. With one exception: (I might as well be giving away my only chance to ever catch your record now, but anyway ;-) ...) I now hit the turbo NOT at the beginning of the front straight (or anywhere else on the track, for that matter), but right after turning the nose into the slight turn after crossing the second in-lap speed pad. For some reason I have been faster with that method than with any other. Even more surprising, this even makes you faster if, as required in order to reach best possible lap times, turbo has already been initiated shortly before the finish line. All that may be because flying this way seems to help carrying the speed gain until quite some meters after the following tight turn to the right. Maybe you could try this and tell me if you get any improvements. As I said, it works for me EVERY time.
Ben
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already did those before. that's the way i drive for best lap, piling the second turbo right on top of the first. all my XL laptimes in the tables were done with that method. there now, does that make you feel better? :D :)
as to hitting turbo just as you turn from the second boost pad, that's one of the things that didn't seem to make any difference for my time. i can hit turbo there or as soon as it appears at the start line or anywhere in between, and turn the same 34.3 first lap. btw, i am totally off my racing form today, i only equalled my current record once, and cut my best first lap to 34.2, but otherwise drove execrably. gave it up till i feel better and more focussed
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edit: next day. have now equalled your 31.6 TT lap record and dropped my racetime to 1:07.3
the 1:07.2 still eludes me.
for now :)
also noticed that George has posted a couple of new times. yaaaaaaaaay! he beat my Single Race times in Vector TR.
temporarily. :)
i've now lowered my SR laptime to 32.8 and the racetime to 1:07.6
both times done in the same race. thanks for the challenge, George; come on and beat my times again. it's about time we had some real racing going here. i hope we can get you and Jay and James all active again
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see previous post.
also lowered XL Venom TR TT lap record to 24.6 [nudges G'Kyl. nudge :) ]
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edit: oops, forgot to mention that George also took six tenths off his previous TT racetime. cool. they're chasing me down
Ouch, that`s a bad one! To have the fastest lap time taken from me... Congrats, though, really. :-)
I tried some racing this morning, but had neither the time nor the spirit to be anywhere near productive (even though I did lower my Venom TR TT race time for a tenth of a sec, but what does THAT matter ;) ).
Anyway, I might not be able to play a lot during the next couple of days. But don`t worry, I`ll get back to you! *g*
Ben
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oh, it matters; you're ahead of FIVE piranhas :D
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Congrats on all those new times Lance, heh, looks like you've been "playing" hard over the past month! :D
Sorry I haven't been here in a while, I've been real busy at work as of late, so not much time for wiping. Did manage to get in a little bit of 'leasure' racing the other day, but didn't get a chance to come here as I forgot my password (recently upgraded this computer to XP, so now I have it on both my computers).
Anyway, you'll know I'm back to racing again (at least temp.) when you see your Phenitia Park times suddenly move into 2nd place (;)) because I simply must have first place on my favorite track! :P
Looking at the times tables, I noticed your ahead of a few Piranhas yourself, Lance. Great job for the both of you! Hopefully I'll be able to get back to some real racing soon, as I know it just must be hurting you so to have your name under first place for so many of the times tables! :lol:
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the pain of being in first place is just excrUciating, i tell you. :D
i hope to see you in action on the tables soon. don't get your hopes up on getting, and retaining, first place at Phenitia Park ;)
i love that track, too.
XP.
upgrade.
oxymoron? ;)
i dislike XP. love Millennium, though.
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And one can only hope you're kidding with that statement. :lol:Quote:
love Millennium, though.
Heh, the sad thing is that this computer actually came with ME (ugh, I know). After about a week of it endlessly crashing on me, I upgraded to my old copy Windows 98.
Been wanting to get XP on this computer for a while now (love it on my other one) but money has been a bit tight.
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i'm not kidding. i detest XP. and Millennium is much superior to 98SE in memory management. 98 tends to clog up and become erratic after a day or two of use. i often had to restart just to clear out the garbage so the computer would run well again. Millennium is stable for as long as i care to run it. i've gone for more than a week, probably 10 days or so without ever having to restart. ME also has a file handling extra or two that 98 doesn't have. it takes up a bit more RAM than 98, but because the memory management is so good, i never run out of memory with multiple applications running, which used to happen to me all the time with 98
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I have to honestly say that you are the first person I have ever come across in my entire life that actually likes ME. I think even Microsoft themselves would give you a double take if you said that.
I've watched a lot of TechTV, and everytime someone who's using Windows ME needs help, and Patrick or Kevin or whoever asks them what OS they have, they always get their answer in the same way one would hear a child tell their mother, "Yes mom, I was the one who broke your priceless china collection.". It's in a voice of shame. So I know I'm not alone in my ME troubles.
Not to mention the fact that I've helped (or tried to) countless numbers of people myself with crappy Windows ME bugs.
When I had to use it, it wouldn't even start up half the time, (it'd just freeze on load) or give me some odd error message I'd have to try to find. Even when I got it to run, I couldn't run it for more than 3 or so hours before it'd just become too unstable to use anymore (usually I'd get a BSOD before then though). And that's pretty much everyone's expereince with ME.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but if you were someone who I didn't already trust, I'd have to call you out on that one. That's like saying you got a rotten wooden barrel to go 250mph up a hill, without it falling apart. :lol:Quote:
i've gone for more than a week, probably 10 days or so without ever having to restart.
ME is indeed superior to 98. I had nothing but problems before I finally decided to upgrade from 98 to XP (on my home computer aynway). However, I think XP is as much a clear step ahead of ME as the latter is one step ehead of 98, especially in terms of memory managment, and I think It`s also a little more stable. Plus, it looks better! ;) I don`t mean to spoil your favourite OS, though. :) I stuck with 98 as long as I possibly could, which was three months ago. *g*
Ben
Errr, someone up there really must be having an eye on me... After two hours of racing and not getting even close to any competetive time (I didn'd feel so good, my thoughts were anywhere but in the game) but pretty frustrated instead, I started thinking of study exams, course credits, lecturers' office times - and then did a 24.6. Don't know how, though. I'm off for a shower and work. Laters. ;)
Ben (or not quite)
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to Ben and other interested parties ;) , take a look at the XL Sagarmatha Vector and Venom TimeTrial records. [ahem... coff... *grin*]
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To Lance and other interested parties: take a look at the 2097 TR Venom TT records. *cough cough*
Sorry, I just COULDN`T resist. ;) After the bad start I had into my WO day, I just looked at that race time and fell stunned.
Too bad I will have to go to bed now. I`ll give you a run for your money at Sagarmartha tomorrow! :-)
G`Night
Ben