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it wont let me add times either
No, don't delete anything, that's not the point of the game.
Formula has changed, normally it should be very objective, I probably will tweak
it a little bit further, to prevent someone with only 1 record to be highly ranked.
Just keep improving your times and that's it!
Good, you're about to pass me on the overall ranking. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by shapealot
dont worry i got a lot of catching up to do. its updating fine now watch out rezatron here i come :banzai
I'm doing ok I guess... ranked 27th overall for speed lap and the bulk of my times outside of venom were made without sideshifting. Need to fix that :P
At this rate I'm never going to see what the game has to offer outside of SL! :lol
Hi Connavar,
I can't give in records for Zone and Detonator.
Fatal error: Call to undefined function int() in /mnt/107/free.fr/2/c/chboing/wipeout/add.inc.php on line 179
prttoettoet
Thanks! I just fixed it, please wait a bit for chboing to update.
Hi Conna! Some of my Best Lap times changed from the format xx.xx to the format 0.xx, what happened?
Cheers :beer
Just a glitch in the matrix, it happens when they're modifying it, déjÃ* vu?
Then it comes back to normal :)
Crap, the bot decided to delete all the multiplayer records that have a best lap
faster than the bot's speed lap record ... meaning almost all of them, because
of the matrix glitch, and also all the multi records with "0" as best lap, which
are usually the manually entered ones. Bot has been punished now, and will try
to recover some of those manual records.
Damn! Starting the evil Skynet network? Your Bot became a Terminator!
Where is Sarah Connor (or Connavar)? :D
Hey, Connavar. I noticed that my Venom Moa MP time was removed. It's your site, so I don't mind, since the content is up to you. I would feel better about continuing to use your site, though, if I heard your view on why my time is inappropriate.
lol, good 1 :+Quote:
Originally Posted by Effedieffe
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but rank 1 is rank 0, rank 2 is rank 1 (ie when displaying say top times for X track) etc so on.
:clap :clapQuote:
Originally Posted by Effedieffe
Sarah Connavor
5 pages before :Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
In my opinion , connavar think the same thing ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wotan
I don't want to speak at the place of Connavar about that, but for some well known players who owns the top of various leaderbords, glitched times musn't appears on the site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
It's already annoying to see that some of this times still remains on the official leaderboards ! Anulpha zone were not the only leaderboard in total mess.
So let's keep Connavar's site clean to avoid any frustration.
If you need an example of a time which could kill the rankings : http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5527
That must be the first time I've ever seen someone quote themselves to speak for someone else. And I already know that you think that, leungbok, since you've said it in another thread.
Just making it clear that I want to hear from Connavar, especially since the site's current top time is within a second of mine. I mean, really. :?
Any update on this? I noticed quite of few of my MP times are gone so should I bother re-entering or will they be recovered?Quote:
Originally Posted by Connavar
To be perfectly honest I would have my doubts that the top 3 times on Moa are legit on Conn's site. In all respect if there were a lot of your times that were pushing the top tens then you probably wouldn't have a problem with people believing it is a proper race time, but as it is some of them are in the 300's. Do you not feel it is a little strange that you had a no 1 record and all the rest of your times are no where near as fast?Quote:
Originally Posted by Koleax
I myself have a time on one particular track that looks plausible and would put me in the top ten, trouble is my real time is about four seconds slower. The glitches on the leaderboards are everywhere.
Koleax: the bot has terminated your time because it was too fast to be legit.
Either the total time or the fastest lap were too quick.
Alea jacta est ...
No. I'm still rather new compared to the rest of you and most of my times there are my first attempt, but I've learned to improve on some tracks more than others, like Ubermall. It's easier to use a lot of turbos in lower classes, especially on Moa. The only thing that surprises me is that the rest of you don't think it's legitimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by KGB1971
I'm learning, however, that many people who care about times do not play a lot of multiplayer, perhaps thinking its random elements are unfair. So they do not have experience winning the turbo lottery and thus have a narrower conception of what times are possible.
Maybe my time is glitched. I don't think it looks that fast, compared to others that are believed legit. I certainly won't be able to do it every time. Philosophically, maybe that alone is enough for SL/TT aficionados to discount my time. I wish they would just say that they didn't like MP.
Connavar, then I'm assuming it was because of my best lap time, since my race time is close to what's on there, but my best lap time is not. As long as that is a different bot from the one you used for speed lap, then I wonder why SL hasn't done something similar with its boards.
Well I don't play SL or TT much and play MP all the time but I still think it is wrong.
You seem convinced it is a legit time Koleax so you should have the benifit of the doubt, although i should say if you can beat the best players so easily on this one track then it should transfer to the others without question. You won't see many random names up in the top ten, the names will keep repeating themselves over all tracks. It's cool if it's true, but there are a lot of people here (and a bot) who think it isn't. Sorry.
As i already said, Koleax, a video should clear all doubts ! :cowboy
I agree about the top 3 MP Moa Venom times for 2 reasons.
1. Who are those guys? I've played FREAKOFMETAL and he's just a casual eliminator player who probably likes FPS. Gatan78's other times are in the 400s and 500s.
2. These top three records have best lap times that are close to 3 seconds better than 4th place (yeldar) and on. Pretty simple really.
Also if you look at places 11, 12 and 14 you see suspicious best lap times and unknown player IDs. So basically you can have legit looking glitched times but the key to weeding them out is looking at the best lap...
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Part deux:
Take a look at MP Chenghou Venom. Same situation as Moa. The top three times are "unknowns" and have insane best lap times. I'm sure there's many more instances...
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Edit:
The top 2 times on MP Vineta Venom are bogus. I'm re-entering some of these deleted MP records (not all of them... chboing is the man!)
more: top 3 times on MP Anulpha Venom...
I'm not sure that if you have a Best Lap glitched it belongs to the same Total Time race, for exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by Rezatron
Yeldar in Chenghou R/Venom/Multi has:
Conna Site: Total 1.44.88 - Best Lap 33.20
SL Leaderboard: Total 1.44.88 - Best Lap 19.68
his BL glitched in a second time probably, maybe he can confirm this.
I totally agree but the problem remains, if I have a glitched time in Best Lap for example, it will never update so for that track/class combo I can't have any record.Quote:
Originally Posted by leungbok
In conclusion the Leaderboards are not definitely fixed.
SL should recruit a Leaderboard expert IMO, rewrite totally this part of the game and release a patch.
Until that we'll read endless discussions about which time is legitimate or not.
It's essential for the game longevity!
Hi Connavar,
still a question and some remarks,
The formula of the laptimes haven't changed; could you give me the formula for zone and detonator (for my excel sheet).
I've have given in all my records (440) also the bot-deleted ones and sank of course on the ranking because I really suck on zone and detonator (with 2 and 6 points :+), still......
you say i should not delete my bad records. If you look in the rankinglist there are 2 people just above me: tumult with only 6 records and Wormwood with only 9 records.
Wouldn't it be fairer to make the rankingsystem independant of the gathered points? I mean with my very good 6 points at the detonatorrace, I have to put in 166 records to get one 1000 point record.
With your actual system you have to delete records to get higher on the ranking system. I still don't understand why you get points if you don't fill in a record. Now filling in no records is more appreciated than fill in (bad) records.
Greetings
prttoettoet
The formula will be tweaked a bit, but expect to be behind some better players
who have less records than you still ... the best way to go up in ranks is to
keep playing the game and improve the records where you have the least points
I know what you mean but do not completely agree. So I better delete all my records and leave the one in the 800's (lucky one) and I am higher on the ranking list.
Greetings
prttoettoet
Look at it this way: if you enter all your times now, sure you'll be low ranked
(but you're FAR from being last, right?) and then you improve them little by
little and you'll see yourself going up ranks, which should motivate you.
Now if you only keep the best ranks, what you'll have is an artificial global
ranking, not representing your true rank, is this what you want?
What's the fun in this? You won't even want to play anymore if you know you're
adding worse times and risk going down.
Hi Connavar,
I will stop "complaning"and try to better my records :+.
Cpould you still give me the formula for the detonator and zone part for my excel-sheet.
Thxs
prttoettoet:hyper
1000*exp[(score-best)*0.6/score]
Thxs Connavar
wth... i got a #1
how did this happen without me noticing :eek?
must have been some tournament, anyways yaay finally :beer
New package has been sent, will be online soon I guess.
1) Filters like column sorting, page # ... are now kept in memory, so you can
sort by total points in the overall rankings, then browse the pages.
(prttoettoet you can do this!)
Also the < and > buttons keep those filters in memory, so if you go to page 5
then check someone's matrix then come back with <, it'll return to page 5!
Sounds stupid but it's very useful!
2) Right click on someone => popup menu will appear and you can do:
- view profile
- view matrix (useful to quickly check someone's matrix)
- select (= same as left click)
3) Can view times in the matrix (wasn't working before) + can edit/add them
inside the matrix too (that was a requested feature, now it's done!).
Have to right click on a cell => EDIT or SELECT (same as left click)
This is SUPER USEFUL, thanks to whoever had the idea! :+
4) Automatic clone time replacement.
This version was just about polishing the existing features, still need to
improve the chat a little bit, and the user page, and then we'll have the
events page running!
Hi Connavar!
It stared yesterday (I think) that I'm not able to utilize your service w/ my favorite browser (seamonkey 2) any more. IE8 works :rolleyes:
The pages shows a static interface with working pull downs but without showing any results. No changes I do in the filters section will change it. It is stuck without showing any results. And yes I cleared caches/cookies allowed all scripts :dizzy
Error console shows this:
Warning: Use of getBoxObjectFor() is deprecated. Try to use element.getBoundingClientRect() if possible.
Source File: http://wipeout-rankings.mooo.com/
Line: 0
+hth
I'm going to download this browser and make the site work on it!
Already got Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome in addition to
Firefox of course, for that sole purpose :)
Edit: Everything works fine!! Maybe you disabled cookies or something?
bravo ! perfect update :)
@Connavar: I wish I could say more than simply Thank you! You've put
some serious work into it, your website is a real contribution to our
community. :+ And it gets better every time. Fantastico! :clap