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I hope Pure will at least acknowledge wipeout 64 in terms of redoing a track or bringin piranha 2 back. I can understand why they wouldn't wanna have anything to with the game on a rival platform for fear of promoting it but there's some excellent tracks there like Qoron IV (the first underwater track in wipeout) or velocitar (never seen so many speed pads lined up). It just feels like that game isn't getting the credit it deserves in the wipeout universe even though it introduced challenge modes.
It may have been on another platform... but it's still wipeout.

I'd also like to see firestar... never did play that in the original (blasted silverstream LOL) but from the few screen shots I've seen, it'd be very interesting in pure... the track was based on Mars right?

Silverstream is a bitch, but its a great track. Firestar is a bitch too, but again its a great track! :)
I would like to see some content from WO64 too, I never played it but I was always curious as to how good it was. from apperances it seems to capture the WO ambience perfectly, but I cant say because i've never played it.

BTW Ive been playing the original WO alot recently, and its a fantastic game! The atmosphere is unbeatable. The only WO that I think comes close to capturing that spirit is the brilliant WO3 SE.

PLEASE add Velocitor or Quaron IV from WO64. This was the game that brought me into the world of wipeout in the first place. I find it also annoying that this game gets little to no credit what so ever.

For a WipEout 64 track, I'd gladly play Terafumos again.

So technical.

I loves it! :D

That's because Terafumos is essentially Silverstream. Surprise! :)

[well, mirrored, the lower road at the first split you never used was removed, the double hairpin in the tunnel became a smooth bend, the second [equal] split lost the outside path, the lower road at the third split was gone [which is why it isn't obvious... nobody ever used the high road on Silverstream] and the final goddamned 90-45 degree S bend with all the speed arrows became a lame normal bend.

Firestar? Argh, teh sux. I hate Firestar. Those stupid two junctions at the start of the lap. The chicanes into and out of the splits are totally horizontal and there are no landmarks, so they are blind corners and you end up crashing lots. The rest of the track is nice if a bit angular, reminds me of Terminal in some places and has trippy graphics, but those splits were terribly designed.

I actually did beat the rapier championship including Firestar, but after many races of ending up half a lap behind everyone else due to crashing 3x at the junctions, having to catch up to sixth place and not seeing another ship for the rest of the race.

Wow I didn't know Terafumos was basically silverstream. Ah well, i loved Terafumous though, very technicle. But I'll always have love for Velocitor. That track helpd me chrash the game so many times with it's insane speeds :D

well, gamma pack 2 has arrived. for all those with the japanese version of pure here is the folder you need to copy to your psp.
gamma pack 2

contents are:
sebenco peak
feisar skin
van uber craft

images from RRsT's (japanese language only):
sebenco peak (using feisar skin)
van uber1 (using feisar skin)
van uber2
van uber3
van uber4

van uber stats:
speed: 3/5
shield: 3/5
handling: 5/5
thrust: 4/5

over and out.

WOW! The Van Uber looks better than I had expected! I really like it.
And the stats are good as well, not these "My-ship-explodes-if-I-crash-into-another-ship-one-time"-stats in Fusion.

really cool!!!

sweet! vanuber fans will be happy, this ship looks wicked!

so, cough, what about the US version downloads?

Nice, thanks for that update Def. Any images of the track detail floating about? My jp copy should arrive monday or tuesday so I'm really hyped about these!

They are finally releasing a download pack for the US version May 18th: http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-p.../613590p1.html

please... please... change the craft designer... or make somethign good! :cry:

Im not too keen on any of these new ships either. I prefer the classic style ships from the original WO and Wipeout 2097. The new ships look too much like Star Wars pod racers for my liking.

Imho a cut-edged, dynamic, balanced and simple design is better than these round, smooth, unbalanced and "heavy looking" pods.

Yeah, I agree. I'm a fan of the old school designs. They look a lot more real to me. There was always a Wacky Races sort of feel to Fusion that I think should have been completely dropped for Pure. I can't think of any real-life equivalent races where all of the cars look completely different. The mix we have at the moment would be like having an F-1 car on the track alongside a VW Beetle.

That said, I do love some of the designs. Feisar, as always, looks excellent and I love the Piranha shape. But Tigron and Van-Uber? Nah, not my style.

I like both, the old and the new ones.
For Piranha: it's smooth as well....
For the just-one-type-of-craft-thing: there are also contest with many different cars, not F-1 of course... but these Ralley [?] things etc... 8)

also if you look at GT races, there are lots of different car styles and shapes.

I don't really care that the tigron and vanüber don't look very streamlined and edgy, if they had changed too much from fusion, noone would recognize them. But all the standard ships in purE are pretty much back to the sleek, edgy roots, don't you think? the only ship that looks a bit bulky is the auricom IMO, but then it's a team from the U.S., so it fits perfectly to have it bold. And the triakis, which isn't all that sleek either, comes from a military factory, so that fits too.

all the other ships are perfectly sleek, qirex is even edgier than in 2097, and AG-5Y5 is like the prototype for sleekness.

also harimau could be a ship from the original wipEout design-wise.

nah.

i like only feisar and [a bit] the qirex.

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But also in W'O'' and in W'O''2097 there were different shapes and styles.
But all of them were made in a "similar" style: cut-edged, dynamic.
Not huge round ugly flyin' things.

Regardless of the styling I'm still annoyed by the horrifically beardy stats for the Van-Über, just like the Tigron, they've been given much better stats than the stock teams. And what's with Van-Über having good shields!? Hell they've got better shields than Feisar now! :roll: Basically the only changes I'd make to the stats to balance them with the other teams is lower the shields at the least to 2/5, preferably 1/5, I know that sounds a bit excessive but in Fusion you couldn't touch anything without the ship flying apart.

The Van-Über does look very cool though I must say, better than I was expecting from the concept-art available ingame, not how I would have brought them up to date but very good nonetheless Almost reminds me of the good-ol days of 2097 a bit. Certainly much better than the Piranha, or Qireж, or Auricom. Sorry to the designers but I'm not that keen on a lot of the purE ships myself, some are good, some are kinda crap compared to their prior versions. Just MO.

Hey guys - if you don't like a ship - don't use it.

A few of you are talking like you should like every ship or something...

They're radically different from each other in some cases so we all get one or two we like.. doesn't that make sense?