The Speed Lap Challenge

21.83 with 3 BR's; 8 sp's... banged into the wall on the final corner thingy :(

I saw a spot in one of phaeton's videos where he boosts early for a BR on the straight, but I don't know if that's faster (feel free to tell us! :P)... of the few attempts I made at it, it's definitely harder. Doing that I can see a 5 BR lap, and I'm thinking it's possible to maybe get a double BR off the first corner, though that would be very hard as well. Can't see any others... unless Yeldar can do the one on the peak of the last hill :P

The top time has only 4 brs. Two at the start an two at the hills. I'll have a go in ag systems , see what i come up with:P

I keep on forgetting that I start a lap with a BR! :( So I'm probably doing an approximation of your attempt barnster, and I'm still 0.61 behind. /wrists

Just got a .45, 8 pds, 4 brs.
Yeah Amp mate you should be boosting from start line with a quick roll before the corner then another over it. I learned a lot about pitch control doing this myself. Motion pitch :rock
At the shortcut if you right shift after the first roll it should throw you onto the double pads with another roll. This is where most time is gained i think:+

Got it down to 22.80, 8 speed pads, 4 BRs, and one wall, using AG-fury of course. Cana ctually get a 5th BR on the side railing on the jump, but it doesn't seem really useful seeing that you boost at that point anyway.

Yeah, that's what I'm doing barnster; I'm finding the BR itself to be easy as well now, and I've just started getting close to pulling off the shortcut every time I try with the pitch down-up-boost-br method... so I think from here I can shave a bit more time off, but I don't know how much exactly. I'll give it another try tomorrow, see if I can get a top 10 perhaps :P

When I first got my 22.02 time I hadn't exactly mastered Ubermall's corners just yet and didn't realise where I was going wrong. I had a lot to make for in terms of just getting it all right I guess!

I don't quite think I've mastered pitching yet, especially for tight moves, but I'm capable of using it. I'm getting there :P

Motion pitching is impossible, anyone who uses it is a mentalist :dizzy

...Yes that's you phaeton, barnster and leungbok!
I wonder if it's a coincidence that they are all BR kings? I think not :g

So 6BRs isn't the fastest? Hmm, will have to try 4 some time :)

Did you tried "Ubermall REV method" ? :)

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Lets not forget Shapealot, he introduced me to the motion pitch. Have him to thank for the crazy BRs i can do. Plus some crazy frenchies for showing me where they are. Pheaton and Yeldar too, cheers guys:rock

thanx barnster :P motion pitch is the way forward :rock

...it's also impossible :D

Kudos to those who use it, you're all mentalists ;)

I'd try motion pitching if the D-Pad on the DS3 didn't have so much travel/play. It's so hard to do BRs with the DS3 controller :/

hello there, bit busy being a chef, still managed a fair few sessions

21.92 8 speedpads 3 brs :P

Not really worth mentioning but anyway: 21.31 - 8 Pads - 4 BRs
.05 = win :lol

update
22.38 5sp 4br fury

62 laps: 21.78 - 8 SP - 4 BR ("non-perfect" lap)

Could be better but my patience is running low these days.

Not had a lot of time this week, think my best time was 22.11 with Fury ship.

Another great week has come to a close - again, thanks to all who participated :)

Last week, I set up a thread whereby I let you guys choose the criteria for the upcoming 2 weeks to celebrate Christmas and the New Year. The Christmas votes have been counted, and the result (by a large majority) was so:

SPEED LAP/MOA THERMA (REVERSE)/PHANTOM/ICARUS

Thanks again for the responses guys :)

You guys can also choose the criteria for next week, so carry on voting in this thread :

http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7082

Sweet, phantom ^_^

Defs giving this one a try later (shh saturn, shh :P)

Ok, I'll get the ball rolling on this one.

23.47 so far, 1 BR - room for improvement as I hit the wall after doing the BR

Quick question: Since the current top times (shared by 3 people o_O) were done using Icara, does that mean they are leading this weeks comp by default?
Bit confused really...

I decided to go for it.

My scores are atm 23.22 no BR and speed pad is 9

stevie:)

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Originally Posted by yeldar2097

Quick question: Since the current top times (shared by 3 people o_O) were done using Icara, does that mean they are leading this weeks comp by default?
Bit confused really...

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No it doesn't. I'm hoping that people will be honest (though i'm sure you guys will be) and try the speed lap again

I'm hoping that people will be honest and try the speed lap again

This is what I expect out of all the normal WOzone crew... i love the fact that all of us respect and appreciate the games enough that we don't have to lie about our times... even when we suck compared to half the other people here -_-;;;


23.42, 8SP, 1 or 2 BR, can't remember, Fury
(hopefully this is subject to improve lol :P I hit the wall a number of times and lost momentum around a few key turns)

23.03 - 0 BR - FURY

Am I right in thinking the record is miles faster than this? What's going on :paperbag Still a lot of fun though.

EDIT: Hmm, not sure what I think of this as a speed lap, I would put it in the same bracket as the glitch on Talons Junction. Skillful indeed but ugly as sin.

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Originally Posted by KGB1971

23.03 - 0 BR - FURY

Am I right in thinking the record is miles faster than this? What's going on :paperbag Still a lot of fun though.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wvGERd6aKI

Last half of the video... kind of glitchy, no?

edit: yeah KGB you beat me to the link.

That is a big glitch to me!

That is not the way I play it. If they want to play that way?, then I`m not bother to play it at all. Because, that is just ruined it everything.

These tracks are designed to play properly, not over it!

So, what are the ruling here?, stick to track or no rules at all? So I know where I`m standing.:)

stevie:pizza

If you use this technique just mention it along with your time. Personally I won't be using it for this challenge although when I get around to doing serious phantom SLs I will be forced to! (probably) :brickwall

yeah ak went too far on that one, we discussed a lot about that stuff on the arena. our conclusion was; well of course it can't be accepted as a fair shortcut. be assured guys that no one of us at the arena or here will ever use that glitch. as i said ak went too far on that one, but please guys remember he's one of the best speed lapper on earth. on topic now lol, dark_phantom i'll try to get close of my pb tonight, want to participate on this one lol

Woah! Huge shortcut!

That has been my boost location for the lower speed classes but I've never seen a boost that big, or the possibility of skipping 3/4 of the magstrip!

That said, I haven't played much on phantom, need to get around to this week's challenge when I get time. (had about 6 laps and got 23.XX so far, can do better)


I don't know if that's just the best shortcut in the game or something so hard to pull off it has to be classed as a glitch...


@ rezatron:
I don't think the boost itself is a problem, leungbok's boost is okay - akfurtif's on the other hand is taking it to new levels :P
The reason it always looks sort-of glitchy is because the magstrip is running sideways, and the ship tries to land belly to the water, but the magstrip allows it to be put back on track if it's done right.

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Originally Posted by amplificated

akfurtif's on the other hand is taking it to new levels :P

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errrr mate as I said, we're a lot to think ak went too far on that one, cos' we believe it requires more skills to pull off a beautiful boost-BR===> falling to the speed pads before the mag than just trying to reset 3/4 of the track with a weird jump to the left. A lot of pilots had the opportunity to do that, but never fell into the dark side lol. And again, I'm not saying Akfurtif is a cheater. We just believe he went too far this time. As some other top phantom pilots, on some particular tracks. So please guys, keep in mind the ranking on Connavar website; http://wipeout.gamerstats.net/

It may or may not be just as difficult to pull off as a good boost-br onto the triple sp's, all I was saying is that it certainly is a different level than the straightforward method. I don't think it's something you set out to do... and that's something I may also be wrong about. It's a mystery.

And unless he's jumping over the section that respawns you, I don't see him glitching either... I'd venture to say it looks almost legit as a method. He barely clips the roof on the exit

Just because it's harder to do something doesn't mean it's more legit... However that's as far as I'm willing to take it. If the general consensus among the "wipeout elite" is that it shouldn't be used, that's fine, and I won't use it (if I get the skills to use it in the first place)...

I've known about this infamous shortcut for a while, and personally I won't be using it. I feel that this shortcut is verging on glitchy and unfair

EDIT: Up to 23.35, 1 BR, 8 SP's now

(gah after 200 laps...........) 22.81, 1 br, 7 speed pads, fury ship. Damn 1 o'clock, need to go to bed.

managed a quick 15 lap session earlier, 23.19, 1 BR w/ Icaras Fury

bumped into a couple of walls and had a bad start, but I pulled off a semi-decent boost-br onto the magstrip which saved the lap from mediocrity, lol... will try again on the weekend if I can

hey hey hey, you guys are complaining about that, but Arnaud's "flying" in 2097 and the Porto Kora Hotel shortcut are acceptable? I sense some kind of double-standard here lol :P

well I dunno for 2097 and Arnaud's shortcut, I can imagine it's requiring a lot of training, but I know I had for example 3 or 4 times the occasion last night to land at the end of the track, and seriously that stuff doesn't require skills at all. Everyone who's practicing a little at phantom speed can do that, sadly. That's why we're finding that unfair. Well that was my 2 cents, a last time, I promise... Now it's up to you guys, I am not a wipeout referee & I'm not considering myself as an elite at all. But I'm a great fan of this game, & I think skipping with a weird jump half of the track is not cool.

Ag, that was past tense then and this HD we are talking about here supposedly far better physics then 2097`s physics! , and you tell me, this is fair?

Honestly, to me it is not! maybe that my say.

If you guys want to do that way, then that`s fine with me.

I just move on.

stevie

Just to clarify, I don't think that it is fair to use this shortcut. Please do not use it guys - many thanks.