Strange, maybe it doesn't affect every player during a race, which is seriously unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyberio
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Strange, maybe it doesn't affect every player during a race, which is seriously unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyberio
I don't know how anyone can say that they're happy with this patch. It's an absolute travesty which has only angered loyal fans even more.
+1 DP89 exactly what i think 'bout this crap patch
I'm pretty sure "NULL_POINTER_REFERNCE_TO_SETTEXT" or whatever was not actually one of the players names when I saw it in the results in a spectator 10 minutes ago lol
But yeah there are some really weird things going on in the displays. I join a tournament because it says "returning to lobby" but then it claims to still be in the 2nd or 3rd race out of 4 and sticks on 0/X laps!
I don't think anyone is happy with what the patch has done to the physics of the game, personally i haven't noticed much of a difference :redface: but i haven't really been looking at my times because iv just been enjoying the races and elims. also since this patch the online lobbies have been pumping! last night there were 20-25 rooms from tough phantom races through to elims... and they are not all just newbies either, i had a hard time choosing lol
I only usually play an hour a day but since the patch its 4 hours.
So its not all bad. imo
Hit 3 or 4 invisible barriers per ZB yesterday, unplayable. Restarted the console and rejoined the game, and it was okay. But this is bollocks, a complete game-breaker. If you were hitting invisible walls in a race you'd stop playing. Just because Zone Batlle is a "minority" mode, doesn't make this any better. It's appalling. Studio Liverpool, you need to get all over this and fix it immediately.
The people who have guided their way to play to exploit to the maximum the ' speed glitch' are very disappointed in not being able to do what they were doing previously ... And then!
Personally , I have always wanted that this speed glitch either repair and i have no concern .
Only the 5 or 10 top chrono in sl or tt are concerned by the great difficulty of redo the time and the br made before this patch . For the rest of the world , including me , there is always a way to improve the clock staff ...
If they just added 2% more speed to every ship, that would more than compensate, and people could go for new records. They wouldn't even have to get rid of the old ones, and it should be pretty easy to do
God dammit! I have to rant some more! Just spent a couple of hours trying to play the game. Two online races got stuck waiting for a player, one phantom room was empty when I joined (as in, No Host), and the rooms that did work were exclusively Anulpha Pass. Preferably 12xAnulpha tourny, or 20 laps. Or the host changed the speed to rapier or venom when the room was full. When I got sick of that I tried some tt's...:brickwall
TL;DR : Who the Hell is in charge at SL? George Lucas (AKA "Let's get new friends by pissing all over our old ones!") ?
Oh, and one more thing: Who had the brilliant idea of joining together a racing game that people often spend hours at a time playing with another racing game that is meant to be played "on the go" in small bites? At least give us an option to host with crossplay DISABLED.
Today I spent lots of time in the Zone Battle mode. First I raced offline against the AI, then online. I had lots of races on tracks like Anulpha Pass, Moa Therma, the HD ones so to say forwards and backwards. I also raced on Syncopia, Mallavol, Corridon 12 etc. I was the host for some time and the guest for some time. Didn't experience a single glitch. I'm on 2.50 and everything seems to work fine for me, also the Zone Battles...
I was in that lobby/race with you and thought that was weird too. No way he should have gotten that. I think he came in 3rd or 4th that race. I noticed more weird stuff like that with the badges in another lobby. My friends list records don't seem to load and my good times no longer seem to show up. I raced a bit more last night and noticed more bugs & weirdness. More often then before the patch I found same races being held-up because of some other player's bad connection. In once instance this went on for about 5 minutes so I left the game. I saw several null lobbies. Race progress info is always in correct. The race leader and laps to go never seem correct nor do they update if you are looking at the available rooms or in a lobby. Anyone else notice this? The crossplay always feels weird and there usually seem to be errors in the game on fury tracks. Several times I noticed that other racers managed to get ahead somehow without passing me visually. They showed up on the HUD in higher placements but when the races were over they were ranked behind me/ I think the crossplay should be removed or as someone suggested give hosts the option to disable it. Capcom did this with Super Street Fighter 4 arcade edition. I'm also not sure whats up with the rank resets and thought they would have been set back to normal by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFthebestJan
I think I'm going to hold off on really getting back into this game until all of this gets corrected. I only buy a few games a year and only seriously play 2-4 games with WOHD being one of the main ones. While the game does work it's far from the near ideal experience that we all enjoyed when the game launched back in 2008. Still the only way I can access online play is to log out of PSN while in game then selecting online which along with the other bugs and weirdness is a bit annoying.
Played for real today
Multiplayer race played perfectly fine for me
Time trial also played fine
The game did not feel ". Heavy" to me. I was getting all the normal BRS just fine
The game felt the same to me as when I used to play it
It did not feel remotely like 2048
NOTICE: The game is slower for laps, I am almost certain it is because they fixed the bug, and I applaud SL for doing this.
HOWEVER: The game needs to be sped up again by 2% for each ship, otherwise there not be any more records
..................OR ALL records need to be erased from the tables, and no records allowed per-patch.
I choose speeding the game up, it will get people into the game again to shoot for new records. I do hot want the cheat bug back in there
after reading a few posts, i had found some dude who had the same problem as me with the 2.50 patch.. i cant be bothered to go research for the post and who said it but:
when i try installing the patch, my ps3 just restarts - cant install patch, cant play the game (didnt test offline, but meh dont feel like unpluggin cables etc)
After playing 100s of hours on patch 2.20 there are lot's of things not feeling right with 2.50. Yesterday I had just a few unmotivated races to get an impression on the new patch. At least there were no crashes or other fatal things and online racing is still possible. Maybe I'll post more on the 'not right' stuff later ... :frown:
Don't be too mad about the freeze JF, just feel lucky that you never had an offfline freeze before. I have had many many freezes offline across 4 PS3s. I think you may just have a really good one :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JFthebestJan
Hmmm it feels similar, but when it comes down to squeezing the game's performance, it really is very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by JABBERJAW
Phantom-wise I manage to get down to around 0.1s slower per lap, but the sheer amount of concentration required to sustain that over a time trial is unreal compared to before. It really is a different game.
The only change is to the airbrakes. I've tested the ships thoroughly using some secret 'yeldar' handling tests :P, everything else is the same. Any changes you experience are as a result of the airbrake/steering adjustment. To be honest, one could argue that the game feels better than it used to. Yes, it's different, but it actually feels more 'WipEout' that WOHD did originally. Aside from Zone mode which feels terrible... :/
I'd really like to see JABBERJAW's speed increase come into play. That way you can embrace it as a new WipEout game for PS3. Rather that than porting twenty-forty-hate over.
In any case, WOHD as it is now should not be treated the same, else you'll end up rather frustrated.
As for the rest, the combat/online aspects of the game, I have no trouble at my end, however the game clearly needs a patch in this regard. The netcode has never been good so I'm not surprised people are having issues. What's worrying is that SL clearly don't know where the problem really lies, or they can't do anything about it. It's been an issue since day one and has never been resolved.
Leaderboard-wise, it is a shame that they aren't working, but let's be honest, when have they? It's not any news to anyone that they don't work, certainly nothing to do with the patch, and given how many ties we've been told they're working when they're not, I wouldn't come to expect anything.
I wish SL would consider our advise, but from what I gather, to them this forum and it's members are just another bunch of fussy, introverted, gamer-geeks getting pent-up and throwing tantrums over nothing, hence we are treated as such.
The airbrakes did not need patching, but in any case the leaderboards/online/combat functionality needs fixing (also to allow for the a/b change). That's all you need to know SL. It's only programming, you're supposed to be quite good at that aren't you? :rolleyes
So what happens to the game people bought in the first place? Gone with the wind? Hooray.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeldar2097
And yeah, somewhere high enough in the food chain, pretty much any decision that would be complementary to the development of the series is being thrown out of the window in favour of nonsense, e.g.: everything described as going wrong with the game in this thread.
The speed increase is so players can still get records, also, it would be fun to go faster. It still feels good with the bugs.
Of course they NEED to fix all the awful bugs that were caused by probably the cross play, not to mention the old bugs that were never fixed.
They really should add a LAN feature. This game will be taken off eventually, then there will be no way to play it. It would also play perfectly. This is the time to ask for it, since they are fixing stuff in it right now.
speculation that completely disregards my point.
And why is it that completely and permanently altering a game that has had the one physics design for three and a half years the best solution?
Everyone complained about the brake bug, that's why they changed the braking a bit so people couldn't use the cheat. Granted, they are 3.5 years late on fixing it.
I hate the bugs caused by the cross play stuff. Cross play should not be in the game at all if it causes this.
I am not speculating they will add the speed, only suggesting they do, otherwise, old records will stay. I would also be very happy for a speed increase.The physics of the game still feel good. I had meant to say earlier that the game still felt really good, when the bugs are not happening.
Of note, I do find it bizarre that they changed that so late in the game. It doesn't make sense for records, and it probably wasn't tested thoroughly to see the game is slower now.
Have managed to get into a few online races the last few days... Sometimes it still freezes when I try to join a game, sometimes there's no problem at all. I gave up yesterday after 30 minutes and being able to get into only one game at the end. Frustrated!