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In all honesty **** Zico. I want to keep my DS3 Controller.
If Zico didnt exsist who the **** out there would honestly spend several hundred hours/laps in sluggest venom speed TT or Speed Lap? Cause i sure wouldnt. Eliminator, yes. Even phantom Elite races. But Venom speed, in Speed laps i wouldnt care a bit cause it doesnt improve your skill at that speed, maybe your patients buts that it.
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I was thinking about the AI last night. It's really good. It's brutal actually. I was waiting around for an online game so I ended up going to a Racebox game and playing. You certainly can't get bored with this game. So I can kind of see the point that "all is well and we might as well leave it as is" idea but SL and more so Sony is a company and you need to keep moving product. Obviously they either one, don't plan on any DLC (seems unlikely), two, don't have it ready yet, or three, have it but want more people to finish what's already been offered(?) (unlikely as well).
I've not finished the game. Don't even know how many trophies I have. I just get them when I get them. I don't even do the campaigns much anymore after getting the whole fleet of ships. I play online and that's it. So I guess I'm not helping matters much if they really are looking at stats. I have a hunch they're looking after their bottom line more. Heck give me more tracks and I'd pay as much as I did for the whole game.
I wish some of Criterion's philosophy would rub off. Burnout PC has been constantly updated, added on and more importantly released news of what's planned.
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I will add my tuppences worth to the discussion
I think they will release DLC as there is money to be made. Lets face it, thats the most important factor here in terms of the developers as they are a business and thats what businesses do.
There are a lot of hardcore players on there but there are also casuals. Some of my mates have played it for a couple of hours, thought it was a good game but haven't kept coming back for more. Others are progressing well through the game but haven't got many gold or silver trophies. Out of my mates I'm the only one who has got platinum.
So IMO the DLC that will be released in future will be in part for the purists, and also to try and tempt some of the more casual gamers.
When they did an update before and changed the parameters of a couple of the trophies to make them slightly easier this really inspired a lot of my friends who were struggling to get it before. It made them go back to the game and appreciate it more. In a way I think DLC will have to do something like this.
I'm all for DLC but after watching some of the speed lap videos posted lately and seen the global scores/times being improved often I think there is still plenty in the game even for the most hardcore player.
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I guess at the end of the day...we have to know how well HD moved in terms of 'units' sold...
That factor alone would determine how feasible a release of DLC would become...
Its all noble and good and all releasing DLC for the hardcore fans...but from a marketing perspective...if the number of hardcore fans does not add up to the number of units they need to sell to make up for whatever losses they have incurred whilst making the game...then DLC would seem quite far off...
My two cents...anyway...
I for one would buy 10 copies if I could just to shift a few more units...:)
Bring on the love SL...
EDIT: maybe...just maybe...they have a counter setup on a huge LCD tv in the office...showing how many PSN purchases are happening of the game...as soon as it clicks over whatever number they need it to...DLC will be released...just like a time bomb...(hey...one can only dream can't they)
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Lol... maybe... just maybe...:).
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They must be watching sackboy porno's or something on that Big LCD screen and forgotten that the counter is ticking over.:lol
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I love everything about the game apart from Zico trophy. I thought that was a bit extreme of a time to beat TBH.
They probably will release DLC, but it would be a massive one, not in parts I assume. Another 8 or so tracks fro roughly around the same price. Oh and they will probably add eliminator mode as well :)
then they can call it a day and leave all effort on the next Wipeout.
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I like where your head's at Axel.
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I thought this wasn't even supposed to be a "real" game; just something in between (maybe an exceptionally-playable tech demo) that they were releasing in preparation for a full-featured PS3 Wipeout. There aren't even any new courses!
There's plenty of technical/graphics brilliance in this game, but little new creative content. No new courses (the lifeblood of any racing game), no new teams, no radically-new things at all aside from improved online-ness. I myself hope that this "game", fun as it is, is just the producers testing things out and seeing what can be done with the latest technology before moving on to making what they really want to make.
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I think the best we can hope for is more tracks from PURE and PULSE and possibly FUSION being spruced up and slightly altered,like we have now.
That's apart from any new tracks that might eventuate.
I remember seeing a video interview prior to the release of HD,I can't remember exactly who it was with,the now/then head of SCEE I think.
He was being questioned over what tracks would be revamped for the yet unreleased HD,the interviewer asked if any tracks from the original Wipeout and 2097 would be transformed.
His reply was something along the lines that it wasn't possible as the original coding for those games had been lost.[I don't know if this applied to WO3].
If you look at the classic packs from PURE, they do look and feel that they were redone from scratch in a straight comparison to the originals ,with just the general track design kept roughly the same.
With the amount of detail that we have in HD,I don't know if it would be easier to design new tracks and be done with it,rather than trying to replicate the older tracks if this code loss were to be correct.
Spare a thought for long time SL employees that have worked on a few Wipeout's.
I think they would rather be working some new tracks,just on a job satisfaction level more than anything else.
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yes , dear friend you're right, you can find in some other thread posts, i think infoxicated and/or maybe crob, or other wipeout staf people who has reported this many times ( about the code loss...)
sadly, 'cause my favourites was in the older wo, with w3o at the top of them , and with P-Mar Project in top of ALL...sad but real
-bytheway, concerning the " supposed " chance to may see a couple of completely new tracks, you can read what colin did reported in an interview about a year ago, i've posted those articles some pages ago in this thread, but you can easily find it by yourself in the web!
i know, things may changes
expecially after a year, but the desire to do some new tracks was clearly real, by the words of colin
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personally im waiting for that download to come to buy the game...
the Wipeout HD was suposed to represent the power of PSN..i was expecting a LOT more movement in extras for the game (werent u expecting some extra skins? tracks? hollidays events? some paid packs? so much to do... but nothing as come...)
it sems a really great game...but since i dont have another 4 frieds to share my acount with..i dont want to spend 18€ in only 8 tracks, i would prefer pay 25 and get 16+ tracks (i dont count reverse tracks as a track...) and some more movement on the online modes...
(sorry in advance for my poor english)
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Yeah, I dislike most of the reverses; I find they just don't flow very well (certainly not as well as the forward versions). I've been forcing myself to play them though, and have found myself warming to Moa Therma and Metropia. The blind left-hand square turn on Metropia is a bastard, but awesome when you nail it.
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Wow! I love the reverse tracks - especially Sol2 rev and Chenghou rev. They still seem fresh to me compared to the forward tracks. Probably because I played through the forward tracks in the main campaign and at slower speeds so knew them fairly well once that was complete.
I'm personally not hugely bothered about new content just yet. I like the fact that people are coming up with original ideas for tournaments and competitions. I feel this currently gives the game some new life and adds a thoroughly enjoyable twist to the online game.
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i suggest people to spam like hell , until they don't give us an official annoucement!
DLC! DLC! DLC! DLC! DLC!
DLC!!!!!! DLC!!!!!
p.s. off topic , it's just me or in the little big planet wo hd pack they have left at home some logo stickers ? ( eg-x. mirage, icaras )
spamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspam:P
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There better be something on page 10, because we want DLC :)
Note: page 10 if you have 30 replies per page.
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I'm with Saturn Return, rate the reverse tracks. They're a great test of skill and concentration. I doubt many critics can claim perfection.
Personally I'm still as addicted as to the existing content as I was when it was first released. But that said if they release anything to download I would purchase immediately.
New tracks would be highest on my list.
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I have to say I initially thought that having reverse tracks would be a cheap way of producing extra content, but I've come to really like most of them. On Vineta, Anulpha, Moa, and Metropia, I even like the reverse versions better than the normal ones!
Still, as everyone said already, I would purchase any and all new tracks IMMEDIATELY.
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Ditto on purchasing any and all new tracks IMMEDIATELY (or ANY DLC for that matter)!
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still..there would be nice that once in a while they lauch a free track or a free ship / skin
just to keep things warm...
and them those major paid updates/packs
it looks to me that they are leting this baby die....when it was suposed to be the exlibris of psn..