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Mietepiet
6th February 2010, 06:22 PM
Improved to: 27.39 - 9pads - 7br

I use the same method as kgb, but i keep pressing X and praying not to touch anything :brickwall

Dark_Phantom_89
7th February 2010, 06:32 PM
27.66 from me, 10 SP's, ?BR's. So close to a podium finish - how did you get a time so good KGB :eek

KGB
7th February 2010, 07:24 PM
I think we need to ask shapealot that one. Funny though, I must of missed loads of SP and still got a decent time. I know I hit the ones at the bottom of the tunnel and the ones at the last corner, is that 5 or 4? So I may of hit only one other, don't know which one. Strange!

Dark_Phantom_89
8th February 2010, 06:18 PM
Week 21 has come to a close - congratulations to KGB for his victory this week :clap

All participants will be added to the Hall of Fame thread.

This week's criteria are as follows: SPEED LAP/SOL 2 (FORWARD)/PHANTOM/MIRAGE

This week also sees the return of the criteria choice thread, where you guys get to choose the challenge you'd like to see next week. Cast your votes here: http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7082&page=3

brainbeat
8th February 2010, 06:32 PM
well done kgb,

just had a 5 min session probably close to best i can do minus insane double br under wing,

19.00 3 brs fury

KGB
8th February 2010, 07:47 PM
The first and last probably. But :hyper anyway

yeldar2097
8th February 2010, 08:34 PM
What is this? Spam the phantom while I'm away?

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

:lol

P.S. great stuff KGB.

brainbeat
8th February 2010, 08:47 PM
made me chuckle :)

Dark_Phantom_89
9th February 2010, 09:09 AM
19.43 from me, 3BR's. Really going to try and get a podium finish this week.

How come you're taking a break from Wipeout yeldar?

Mietepiet
9th February 2010, 02:55 PM
19.58 - 5p - 2br

Where are you doing the 3rd br?
Link it after the 1st, or at the end of the last corner.

yeldar2097
9th February 2010, 03:22 PM
Or at the start? ;)

Dark_Phantom_89
9th February 2010, 03:58 PM
Where are you doing the 3rd br?
Link it after the 1st, or at the end of the last corner.

1st BR at the start (nose up trick - very hard to stop yourself from slamming into a wall though, that's what happened to me, so my time could be faster.)

2nd BR at the boost spot.

3rd BR after the turning section.

TearsToShreds
9th February 2010, 06:29 PM
Best I've gotten is 19.32 so far. Got that early this morning, then raced on the same track for another 2 hours but never beat it. Did this with 2 BR's, hit 7 speedpads.

The top time is 18.39... how the hell I'll ever shave another second off of that time beats me.

leungbok
9th February 2010, 06:41 PM
1st BR at the start
I'm not totally convinced that this Br is faster at phantom speed than a normal boost with good line :|

Dark_Phantom_89
9th February 2010, 07:03 PM
Hmm, I'll look into that Leungbok, I think you may be right

leungbok
9th February 2010, 09:17 PM
I'm not totally sure mate ^^, but when i compare with my ghost it looks like a big amount of risk for few benefit ;)



18.86 attempt with fury ship, 2 BR, 7 sp.1627

AG-wolf
9th February 2010, 10:19 PM
19.23 8sp 3br fury

It's insulting... I can do the double BR under the wing with relative consistency, but I can't do the BR right after the start/finish line -_-

This may be my best effort this week, I have a few BIG assignments I've put off until the last minute D:

SaturnReturn
9th February 2010, 10:38 PM
Who wants to explain to me (in words, not video) how to do the double BR under the wing? I haven't been able to figure it out at all. Think I only ever did it once. :(

brainbeat
9th February 2010, 10:53 PM
the best tip is to boost as early as you can, from the right hand side of track, so keep to rhs after first ss, i get it 50/50 if i dont respawn, if you boost late you miss the hump, its also poss to get 2xbr over the wing when you boost really early,

TearsToShreds
9th February 2010, 11:01 PM
Edit:

19.11 now, with the Fury ship.

2 br's, 7 speedpads.

AG-wolf
9th February 2010, 11:09 PM
@Saturn;
assuming you already know how to do the shortcut and 1 BR under the wing;

launch with the boost like normal
BR in mid-air
land on the track as soon as possible after passing under the wing
the boost you receive when landing will pull you high enough off the track that you can BR again
and then you land right at the base of the hill which climbs up into the first weird circle turn.


EDIT: see attached pic... I've been getting a lot of that.

SaturnReturn
9th February 2010, 11:27 PM
ahem, why would anyone assumed such a thing.:redface:

I can do the normal shortcut reasonably OK sometimes, but I respawn more often than not. Will try brainbeat's suggestion about boosting early and see if that helps. I usually boost almost at the edge of the track, so that could be where I mess up.

Thanks guys.

KGB
10th February 2010, 08:27 AM
Mine and Saturn's copy must be different to everyone else's. I always respawn going under the wing. It looks like I'm boosting where you are meant to but I still miss it. 19.3x - 2Br - FURY for me at the moment.

Dark_Phantom_89
10th February 2010, 08:33 AM
I can't do the double BR under the wing either. I'm the same as KGB - I always respawn whenever I attempt it. Kudos for being able to do it consistently AG-wolf :)

phaeton_pl
10th February 2010, 09:05 AM
19.00 here, 2 BR's, 6 pads, Fury


@ Saturn

To do double BR under the wing you have to stay as close to the track as you can. After using boost don't go straight line but keep turning left just like the track goes, land as soon as you can (before speed pad).


@ BR at the start

It's really hard to get advanatage from this BR, i think it's the same with Leungbok's last straight BR. If you can't get under 18.80 without those BR's there's no point of trying them. Taking right handers after boosting and list chicane is most importantant if you ask me.

EDIT:
18.89 3 BR's 6 pads Fury ship

Dark_Phantom_89
10th February 2010, 09:40 AM
Managed an 18.91, 2BR's, 6SP's. Don't know how I did it.

EDIT: Taking my top spot away so soon phaeton? ;)

brainbeat
10th February 2010, 10:19 AM
18.79 3 brs :)

leungbok
10th February 2010, 10:21 AM
Ouch, nice phaeton and dark-phantom :eek
It smells bad for my time on this challenge :brickwall
;)

What was i saying ! :bomb gg brainbeat ;)

TearsToShreds
10th February 2010, 01:01 PM
The BR's you are all talking about, are they like the first 2 BR's in this vid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TpKu7vYtx0

KGB
10th February 2010, 01:08 PM
No, the first 2 in this vid :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LLxG_8brEw

Dark_Phantom_89
10th February 2010, 06:06 PM
18.79 3 brs :)

:eek I thought my time would be very high up this week, obviously I was wrong! Great work brainbeat :)

Mietepiet
10th February 2010, 07:53 PM
Whow, amazing times all of you :clap

Thanx Pheaton for the great advice. It gave me much more consistancy on the shortcut.

19.15 - 7p - 2br

For that last br, do you have to time it with the bounces? I've tried a million times, but lost only 15 million energy point. One time I saw that butt doing some kind of samba wiggle :hyper

brainbeat
10th February 2010, 10:29 PM
Its strange if i just boost i cant beat my boostbr ghost, but i find it hard to get a line to go under wing if i do a brboost start. I did a single br under wing for my best time,

oh if you see someone online called internalbrain its me. Ive decided to try and platinum internal view, done airbrake 1 1st time, and zico in 4 laps,:) I tried this internally and got 3 brs 19.10,

@mietepiet just keep to the inside and ss, pitch up, may need to right airbrake in air, so long as u dont slow down too much taking corner should be alright

Wotan
11th February 2010, 08:30 AM
18.72 . 2 BR and 7 speed pads . Mirage fury

Only 0.01 behind my ghost , but i really dislike mirage ,so i'll try to improve with my ag-systems now :)

leungbok
11th February 2010, 08:33 AM
Yeldar is gone, Wotan is back ! :hyper

kanar
11th February 2010, 10:41 AM
yep, that's terrific. Hope wowo won't be too much exhausted by his 700 kms by car to reach my bunker friday, feb. 19... I need him in good shape to rock this upcoming wipeout week-end! I only managed a 19.07 (fury ship, 2 brs, 6 pads) late in the tuesday night, after a 99 laps session. Don't think I'll try to improve that, I like the handling of this ship but it feels really weird to control it, I'm always turning more than necessary. And I suck at this game anyway lol.

TearsToShreds
11th February 2010, 02:38 PM
No, the first 2 in this vid :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LLxG_8brEw

Ahh I see now. Thank you. Now I can at least see where the extra second could come from. ^^

EDIT: After a 99-lap session, I got 19.03. I used the BR under wing technique but only managed to get one off there, and then a second one after the twisty bit.

Also in the Fury ship.

brainbeat
13th February 2010, 12:38 PM
good times everyone, i spent another 99 laps trying to get all 4 brs to no avail, so hat's off to wotan, im pretty much working nxt 2 days so my final was 18.79

AG-wolf
14th February 2010, 03:29 PM
There are some phenomenal times this week D: I might give it one more shot this afternoon... I wish that stupid shortcut under the wing weren't an option lol

Dark_Phantom_89
15th February 2010, 09:26 AM
I can't improve on my time, so it looks like 18.91 is my final one for this week.

Mietepiet
15th February 2010, 06:06 PM
I did all I could to go sub 19, but last last corner didn't allow me :(
small improvemed to: 19.05 - 6p - 2br - fury

Dark_Phantom_89
15th February 2010, 06:27 PM
Some extremely good times this week, very close to each other too :guitar All of the participants names will be added to the Hall of Fame Thread located here (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7081)

This week you guys voted for the criteria you wanted - majority votes win, so the criteria are as follows:

SPEED LAP (Obviously)

METROPIA (REVERSE) - Voted for by KGB and phaeton

RAPIER - Voted for by KGB and phaeton

PIRANHA - Voted for by KGB and amplificated

Best of luck to everyone :)

leungbok
15th February 2010, 07:35 PM
All of the participants names will be added to the Hall of Fame Thread located here (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7081)

You forgot me mate ! ;)

KGB
15th February 2010, 08:22 PM
****!, forgot to update my time for the SL and TT, never mind they were both crap.

Cool, I think this is my favorite track :D. Not outstandingly good at it, but I could easily put in 100 laps on it and not be sick of it. (The Jedi mind tricks and subliminal messages must of worked) ;).

EDIT: 22.31 - 2BR - 10SP - FURY. I can manage the Boost/BR at the start on the slower speeds, not managed it yet on this.

brainbeat
15th February 2010, 11:54 PM
im .05 behind you so far kjb, yep not managed to do brboost myself i think its the piranha 4 me as im sure i have done with icarus before. are you boosting over the like roof structure near end?
I have tried boosting at beginning of track I can get a 3xbr by boostin on first straight but still behind my challenge ghost by like .10. i can only manage 1 br on the right turn befor magstrip without a boost and sure i can do a double somehow, just gotta learn the pitch though as i think you have to pitch down then up on land to kinda bounce. Im pretty sure i have done on phantom or in online races with icarus on rapier
theres a br on first corner too but don't think its faster than a smooth line, i can get a nice line by extreme cutting and missing 1st speedpad

Rezatron
16th February 2010, 12:47 AM
I posted a convoluted explanation regarding my approach to the track in the TT topic. My 21.93 Icaras time is a normal boost start, I gave up trying a boost-BR start and i'm doubting the benefits.

Danterich
16th February 2010, 06:52 AM
poor time, but wanna let ya know:

23.38 11 SPs 2 BRs Piranha Fury

Dark_Phantom_89
16th February 2010, 08:25 AM
You forgot me mate ! ;)

Sorry Leungbok, just realised that I did miss you out. Please accept my apologies, I'll add you right away :)

EDIT: Don't be so hard on yourself Danterich, you're an impressive pilot.

EDIT 2: 22.53 so far, 2BR's, 11 SP's, Fury Piranha

Mietepiet
16th February 2010, 11:26 AM
Lol, it's gonna be close again :D
22.54 - 11p - 2br- fury

I was trying for a br @ the triple speedpad, with a left ss from the wall. It might be an advantage.

XBARNSTERX
16th February 2010, 12:03 PM
I was trying that the other day mate. It may be possible.:p

Mietepiet
16th February 2010, 02:39 PM
Well, it is possible :D only not on a regular basis :(
improved to: 22.29 - 10pads - 2br

phaeton_pl
16th February 2010, 02:50 PM
22.06 Fury 2 BR's 10 pads

Boost BR start is faster for sure but its hard to do it right.

I also do a SS br onto 3 pads.

Must put this all together for under 22 :D

leungbok
16th February 2010, 05:15 PM
Sorry Leungbok, just realised that I did miss you out. Please accept my apologies, I'll add you right away :)

Lol, no problem mate ! I'll create new posts in the future to show my laptimes, instead of editing an old one, it'll be easier to check all the records ! ;)

Danterich
17th February 2010, 11:31 AM
i improved a bit, lol:

new time: 23.02 11 SPs 2 BRs Fury

amplificated
17th February 2010, 02:59 PM
I haven't played WO in what feels like ages, but it felt good to get back to it after mainly playing bayonetta the last 2-3 weeks! That game has way too many pauses in the gameplay.

Didn't take too long to get the feel of the game back; 22.28, 11 speed pads, fury pirhana.

Just .02 off my best time, which for some reason doesn't seem to appear on the leaderboards despite showing 22.26 as my lap time to beat in-game and in my personal records... and i got it ages ago.

main way I think I could improve my time is fixing up the start; it's one of the most difficult to get right in the game. Other than that I think my laps are alright, with just a few minor things to fix which vary lap to lap...

KGB
17th February 2010, 11:16 PM
22.06 - 2BR - 10SP - FURY. Love to get under 22 secs, don't think it will happen as I'm away for the weekend.

Danterich
18th February 2010, 07:45 AM
last attempt: 22.92 11 SPs 2 BRs Fury

Dark_Phantom_89
18th February 2010, 06:14 PM
Improved to 22.29, same as Mietepiet. 2BR's, 11SP's, Fury Piranha

amplificated
18th February 2010, 08:11 PM
had another bit of a go before and got it down to 22.12. I'd also like to break 22, will give it another shot at some point, probably...

fury ship, 2 br's, and I think it was 11 sp's.

AG-wolf
20th February 2010, 02:25 PM
might try for better later;

22.41 - 11sp - 2br - Fury

kanar
20th February 2010, 07:16 PM
Kao : 22:43, 11 SP
Kanar : 22:17, 12 SP
EDIT : Wowo : 22:00 11 SP

yeldar2097
20th February 2010, 08:53 PM
Servers are down so why not? :)

21.98 - 11

Dark_Phantom_89
22nd February 2010, 06:18 PM
Some great times this week everyone, which will be added to the Hall of Fame thread here. (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7081)

In memory of his Avalon Grand Finale, I spoke to kanar and decided to let him choose the criteria for this week. His choice was:

SPEED LAP/ANULPHA PASS (FORWARD)/PHANTOM/ICARAS

Good luck everyone, let's see some more great times :)

Danterich
22nd February 2010, 07:05 PM
1st short session: 20.94 15 SPs 3 BRs Fury

kanar
22nd February 2010, 07:43 PM
20.26, 13 sp, 4 brs, fury. really hard to catch or improve by pb.

yeldar2097
22nd February 2010, 07:53 PM
SPEED LAP/ANULPHA PASS (FORWARD)/PHANTOM/ICARAS

:rock great choice!

20.01 (:brickwall) - 13 Pads - 5BRs

AG-wolf
23rd February 2010, 02:05 AM
20.79 11sp 4br Fury

Dark_Phantom_89
23rd February 2010, 06:40 AM
:rock great choice!

20.01 (:brickwall) - 13 Pads - 5BRs

:eek There's no chance I can get anywhere near this time - hats off to you yeldar

20.74, 4 BR's, 11SP's. I can't do the 3rd BR on the track (the one going into the left hand corner after the two boost BR's) consistently. Any tips?

yeldar2097
23rd February 2010, 09:46 AM
Stay further over to the right than you think you should and sideshift left + nose up. This means resisting the urge to SS right on the pad as you exit the tunnel but you get used to it :)

AG-wolf
23rd February 2010, 11:18 AM
augh that one is such a pain; I was coming out of the tunnel, hitting the SP in a straight line, and then I would start that corner as far left as possible, BR quickly and land right in the middle of the 3 speed pads sitting in a triangle. When I managed to do it (I think my success was apx 50%), it seemed very easy, almost embarrassingly easy... It added insult to injury when I started having trouble with it lol

I'm trying your method, yeldar, after I get most of my assignments done this week

yeldar2097
23rd February 2010, 11:36 AM
Well it can be done over to the left but sometimes the BR won't register/complete itself because of the wall on the left-hand side. You can skip over the wall for the BR which is nice and fast but more often than not you'll end up facing the other direction.

There's also a doubleBR going into the tunnel (after the boost) but it's more trouble than it's worth and has to be done really well in order to get even a tiny advantage over your ghost. But it's there if you want it :+

phaeton_pl
23rd February 2010, 12:04 PM
@ yeldar

Great record :clap

That double BR, how did you do that? Boost after a left hander, go close to the left wall (there's a small bump) and BR again befor the hill? Or you mean double BR on that hill after the straight?

You can also double a Zico BR. Do a first BR as early as you can, land as close as you can with pitch down, SS right + pitch up. It's VERY hard but some people can do it (---> xbarnsterx)

yeldar2097
23rd February 2010, 12:09 PM
Actually you can do both, I tried them both yesterday and they both work :D

I managed to do the double on the overpass a few times but when I am on a good lap I get quite nervous so I always go for a safe single BR onto the overpass. I would make a video but my camera is broken at the moment so I can't at the moment.

I only do 5BRs/lap but in the optimum lap I think there are 9BRs :rock

phaeton_pl
23rd February 2010, 12:27 PM
C'mon Yeldar, use a mobile phone or anything to record it :)

Long time ago i posted AP venom video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqNx1l4yu58) where i did a double on the overpass with turbo (the very first one in this vid). I managed to do it WITHOUT turbo on phantom class :) Keep left, SS right + pitch, BR over the gap, tap the overpass and BR again o_O
I have that recorded :)

KGB
23rd February 2010, 01:09 PM
Go away for a few days, and what happens... Yeldar and Wotan come out of semi-retirement, grrr!! ;). Thought I may of been on for a TT and SL first place.

One thing I've realized in doing these Speed laps is that I am crap at phantom. Only taken about a year and a half to figure it out :lol. I'll give it a go later.

yeldar2097
23rd February 2010, 04:57 PM
Well officially I'm playing ninja gaiden sigma 2 but I couldn't resist my fave speedclass/ship/track combo ^_^

AG-wolf
23rd February 2010, 05:55 PM
damn it, what am I doing wrong?!?!?! If I screw up before the tunnel, I can pull off the remaining 2 BRs at the end, if I play perfect (or at least better than my ghost) all the way through the tunnel, I screw up one of the 2 remaining BRs!! it's driving me mad.

and 99 laps only got me 2/100ths of a second better even once I managed to pull off 5BRs again >_<

20.77 5br 10sp Fury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXd60KNXI78

Video quality will improve after it has finished processing.

Mietepiet
23rd February 2010, 06:00 PM
20.51 - 16p - 5br - HD

For that linked br on overpass (yeldar way). It makes it a bit easier if you kiss the wall a little.

edit:
@Mr.Wolf, for that 3rd br, keep the left-hander (after narrow section) very tight on exit with a left ss, leaving you a longer straight to the br

kanar
23rd February 2010, 06:52 PM
well i'm probably getting older cos' i simply don't understand how and where do you guys are pulling a 5th br on this track. i remember your ninja gaiden anulpha vid yeye, as far as i remember you made 4 brs for a 20.04. so i can imagine your margin with this 5th one. but wth, where is it? still don't understand your explanations guys, sorry.
EDIT- just forget my post guys, was too tired to realise i'm doing 5 brs too. gah i'm dumb.

SaturnReturn
23rd February 2010, 08:04 PM
20.29 - 14 sp - 5 br - hd :)

AG-wolf
23rd February 2010, 09:04 PM
lol, mybad, I'm so good that I'm doing BRs and I don't realize it

am I right? :P

kanar
23rd February 2010, 10:07 PM
lool AG-wolf, no seriously I wasn't counting the last one, I'm still tired of my crazy week-end. Yeldar is the man btw, almost a sub 20 secs on this track is crazy. Really perfect lines there.

AG-wolf
23rd February 2010, 10:32 PM
I know, I'm just giving you a hard time ;)

I managed to knock my time down a bit more (when I should be doing homework instead :P )
20.58 - 5BR - 14SP - Fury

kanar
24th February 2010, 08:12 AM
20.17, 14 sp, 5 brs, ica hd :pirate. still don't understand why the fury ship seems a bit slower. hidden stats?

yeldar2097
24th February 2010, 12:06 PM
Great time Kanar. Icaras HD ftw :rock

Personally I don't find Icaras as fast (or as pretty...or as nice to fly) as Icaras+ because it swings around too much in the corners anddoens't seem to hold its speed as well and the HD version. Overall I think that despite the thrust+handling improvements IcaHD is faster for me because it's a much tighter package. A bit like Auricom and Auricom+ - AuricomHD it tight like a drum :g

SaturnReturn
24th February 2010, 09:09 PM
You sure you got them the right way round in the second line yeldar? For me Fury Ica is pretty much always faster, but I prefer HD Ica. It's just nicer.

yeldar2097
24th February 2010, 09:38 PM
Yep...can't get anywhere near any of my times with Ica+. Can't get ANY consistency either. That's probs just cos I'm not used to it. These days I only really use HDIca and Hazza+. Also HD Ica looks cooler in the rankings, it's a retro-chic kinda thing. You know what I mean, I know you do :g

kanar
24th February 2010, 09:56 PM
20.14, 16 sp, 5 brs, hd ship :evil fear to be hunted by leungbok now lol. grrrr stupid job tomorrow, sadly, have to go to sleep.

leungbok
24th February 2010, 10:22 PM
not before i find the courage to race on anoobpha, mate, lol. It can takes weeks or months :lol

but if you really want me to hunt you, i'm interested by your ghost ;) 4 BRs :eek

AG-wolf
25th February 2010, 12:21 PM
I've got a question for all you guys who always have wicked low times (kanar, wotan, yeldar, etc);

When you get these insanely fast lap times, are they just flukes after hundreds of laps or do you consistently have laps around the same times?

I can't seem to maintain the same racing line all the time, I graze walls and slam into corners, I lose momentum... I don't technically suck at this game but something doesn't seem to click with how to always get good lines.. compare my Anulpha speed lap embarrassment before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXd60KNXI78
to me playing XL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15wHqpBzB60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R_JKoMfEsk
or even WO1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZQ9MjC5KdQ

when I play casually, I may not always do perfect laps every time, but it's much easier for me to get repeatedly low times in the earlier games than anything after Fusion. Do I need more practice? Do you guys have the same issues? Or are you Wipeout gods? lol

(also, I miss 30 second phantom laps ;_; )

kanar
25th February 2010, 01:00 PM
Hey AG-wolf, sorry I'm at work atm, so can't watch your vids, but I know for a fact you're really fast on the previous wo anyway. To be honest, and speaking for myself, it's just crazy insane practice, day after day, since hd release date. Can't have a look at my stats right now but I'm probably around 8000/9000 laps on anulpha pass forward so yes, I can get consistently laps around 20.30/20.20. But don't get me wrong, I'm still falling of the bridge/boosting off track/eating walls/failing brs tons of time too. Seriously I think it's a crazy addiction now, every day I need my speed lap fix. Tekken 6 is covered with dust, I'm playing 1 or 2 quarters with MJ on 2k10 then turning off the game, or playing 30mn/1h max of mw2... Then I'm returning to wo hd... So definitely not wipeout god lol, more a crazy insane guy intoxicated by a videogame... but thank you for the compliment anyway lol. My mates are more balanced than me as far as I know, Yeldar is playing Ninja Gaiden or other games, Wotan is a burnout fan... So yes my best times are only due to practice, practice, practice... and certainly not instinctive talent. I remember one day, FBJ was talking about a buddhist thought, roughly saying if you're doing something 10 000 times you will be able to do it perfectly.

Mietepiet
25th February 2010, 02:02 PM
improved to: 20.37 - 13pads - 5br

I think I found a way to get Yeldar sub 20:
3br of the lap @ arrowhead
- left SS out of the narrow section
- right SS on speedpad
- just b4 the apex you can get enough air with a good tap on the left airbrake

it saved me aprox 0.05 secs

kanar
25th February 2010, 08:49 PM
20.11, 15 sp, 5 brs, hd. reaching my physical limits there, not sure i'll try to lower that time, it's becoming too mental. i'm appreciating even more your time now yeldar, you're definitely a #$%"& bot. btw ag-wolf, had a look at my stats, i was wrong, i've "only" around 6800 laps on that track lol.

yeldar2097
25th February 2010, 09:38 PM
@mietepiet: Yeah the 3rd (or 4th ;) ) BR is quite easy even without sideshift but for some reason I am much faster with the SS method... I think the easiest way for me to get sub would be more BRs (:hyper) or a better BR onto the overpass. If you do it right you can save at least .10s but during my 20.01 I did it the same as in my previous An00bpha video which is 'way' slower. Great time kanar...sub 20.00 for you as well? Let's go together!

KGB
25th February 2010, 09:56 PM
Think I'm on 20.39 - 5br - 13sp - HD. How's everyone taking the first bend. Do you hit 2 or 3 pads

yeldar2097
25th February 2010, 10:12 PM
I hit 2 on my lap, stuck to the inside like glue. That's just because I'm used to it though. On occasion I did laps with both 1 and 3 pads and they were all pretty much the same.

Also Mietepiet I think you're right on that one now that I think about it, I'm just not very good at doing it 'well' without a SS...if that makes sense? :?

Rezatron
26th February 2010, 12:01 AM
Quick run, 48 laps: 20.26 - 5BR - 12SP

This time was actually my first lap where I hit all 5 BRs, I was just waiting until I made all five and then I quit. I could probably improve this a little bit.

AG-wolf
26th February 2010, 12:36 AM
are you guys using your turbo at the first crest after the first turn, or the second smaller bump?

Dark_Phantom_89
26th February 2010, 07:20 AM
Got my time down to 20.49, 13 SP's, 5 BR's. Trying to improve it but it's difficult for me

yeldar2097
26th February 2010, 07:53 AM
@AGW: I use mine as soon as I've straightened up coming out of the first turn, Like so (20.04) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ueDC0DttI)

/yet more flagrant self-promotion :P

OBH
26th February 2010, 11:36 AM
Foolish me, i should have been participating in this more often considering all i do these days are SLs :)

20.08 15 SPs 5 BRs, Icaras+, and a new pb :cowboy wheres a cigar smoking smiley when you need one!
No matter how pleased i am with my wipeout times, yeldars aaaaalways ahead....

kanar
26th February 2010, 02:00 PM
jeez, f****n awesome time mate, :clap:clap! You're lucky I'm at work atm lol, already reserved my night on Anulpha :banzai

amplificated
26th February 2010, 03:43 PM
:brickwall

Damn phantom..! Seriously have trouble with it. Had a quick go earlier and all I could muster was about 20.84.

Wotan
26th February 2010, 07:07 PM
Quick run , 4 laps : 20.20 - 5BR - 14SP

So close of my ghost , if i'll find time (4 other laps :lol) i hope to improve this SL

leungbok
26th February 2010, 07:21 PM
can i become the chairman of your fan club ? :hyper

:lol

KGB
26th February 2010, 07:25 PM
Nice new tag at the bottom :lol whose handy work?

yeldar2097
26th February 2010, 08:46 PM
Don't know but whoever it is, I'm not sucking anything...cept maybe my thumb when I'm watching cheesy teen drama series ^_^

Wotan
27th February 2010, 10:47 AM
@ Leungbok : don't think so , as far i know you aren't able to make quick run ,so .... ^^ Edit : it seems i was wrong , welcome chairman :D

Well , sorry for the irrelevant . i improved my time yesterday : 20.18 now

leungbok
27th February 2010, 11:41 AM
@wowo :hyper
20.23, 5 BRs, fury (lap 2 as usual :lol)

Dark_Phantom_89
28th February 2010, 08:38 AM
Small improvement from me - up to 20.45 now, 5BR's. I can see a 20.3x being possible for me, but I think that will be my limit.

phaeton_pl
28th February 2010, 07:30 PM
20.11 - 6 BR's - 13 Pads - Fury Ship

I wasn't racing AP since i got 20.14 couple of weeks ago and i found my ghost bugged. Today i found some spare time and here i am :)

Rezatron
28th February 2010, 07:46 PM
I made a small improvement a few days ago, forgot to post: 20.23 - 14SP - 5BR - HD

DP_89 you missed Hellfire's time :sonar

2 people tried the TT challenge this week :lol:frown:

kanar
1st March 2010, 06:32 AM
I think Rezatron meant phaeton's time, not Hellfire? Big congrats to Yeldar & OBH for their alien times by the way, I did my best but really couldn't improve mine.

Dark_Phantom_89
1st March 2010, 09:14 AM
phaeton - There's a 6th BR?

Rezatron - Hellfire doesn't have a time - unless you meant phaeton as kanar said?

phaeton_pl
1st March 2010, 09:23 AM
@ Dark Phantom
That 6'th BR is Leungbok's "Boost BR start"

It's in my last AP video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_EHJCo1-4E

kanar
1st March 2010, 10:37 AM
Yeah phaeton that's what I tried to do myself at the end in order to beat my 20.11, but failed miserably... If it's perfectly executed I think a sub is possible, but it's a real pain in the a** to chain everything in one alien lap. Speaking of alien, Yeldar you should try it, as you're already flawless with 5 brs on that track.

yeldar2097
1st March 2010, 12:52 PM
Oh no, I can beat it with 5BRs...I MUST!

:paperbag

...

Actually it's because I can't do the boostBR at the start :paperbag . I can do the pseudo-BSB start but I don't really like it and 80% of the time normal boost is faster for me.

I love the awesome times people are producing this week :rock

--> Let's all cross the sub 20.00 finish line together :g

Dark_Phantom_89
1st March 2010, 01:09 PM
Ahh, I didn't think of doing the boost BR. Saw your video phaeton - very impressive, don't think I could do the boost BR anyway.

phaeton_pl
1st March 2010, 03:15 PM
Nose down -> nose up -> boost -> BR -> SS while landing :D

I can do boost BR at the start with 80% success ratio but it gives me an advantage in only 30% of try. Double BR on the overpass gives more advantage but i don't think i will ever be able to do them all in one lap.

I think the key to sub 20 is on the long left hander just before the overpass. 19.xx can be done without that extra BR for sure. With all those crazy BR's 19.70 maybe 19.65 is possible. Good luck Yeldar :+

Congrats guys, you are all winners!

yeldar2097
1st March 2010, 03:45 PM
BoostBR --> BoostBRBR --> 2xBR in tunnel --> BR on left-hander --> 2xBR on overpass -> BR off overpass --> o_O

Hey, ho; let's go :rock

Dark_Phantom_89
1st March 2010, 06:16 PM
Absolutely amazing times this week everyone, really high up on the Global Leaderboards. Your names will be added to the Hall of Fame thread :rock

This week's criteria is as follows: SPEED LAP/MOA THERMA(FORWARD)/VENOM/FEISAR

That's if anybody can actually get to play HD this week due to the PSN situation... :bomb

KGB
1st March 2010, 07:08 PM
Cool, I will finally try and learn that shortcut. :D

AG-wolf
1st March 2010, 08:40 PM
oh god, Venom? I'll grow old before I finish three laps (of course, providing my PS3 magically decides to work again lol)

amplificated
2nd March 2010, 06:49 AM
Just had a quick run (22 laps), got 34.41, 9 pads, fury feisar; have a fair bit of room for improvement. Will see if I can muster the effort to go through 35+ second average laps later :p
At least it's better than phantom, I can actually post halfway decent times this week! :lol

Dark_Phantom_89
2nd March 2010, 08:47 AM
Where is everyone using the boost? I'm using it at the end but I think it's giving me too much air time.

yeldar2097
2nd March 2010, 09:20 AM
Shortcut boosty is besty. Or did you mean where in the shortcut?

OBH
2nd March 2010, 10:13 AM
Nice new tag at the bottom :lol whose handy work?

Mine mine mine!! :g:beer

KGB
2nd March 2010, 10:16 AM
I've got 34.43 - 2BR - 9pads - Fury.

Best to use the boost after the tunnel. As you come out, boost and jump over the corner with varying degrees of success like me :lol. Just need that bit of luck to get a third BR at the end.

OBH
2nd March 2010, 01:28 PM
34.23 - 2 BRs, 9 Pads, FURY
Reckon theres another tenth and a bit to knock off with slightly tighter lines, and if i could ever pull off the double br...... even just once....

Anyone else find Moa has real problems with boosting over the line?? Swear 4 out of 5 times i clearly havnt started a new lap yet i dont get a new boost.

edit:
hmm the current wr is 33.2 something. Maybe theres more time to be squeezed out of this lap that i thought....

KGB
2nd March 2010, 01:50 PM
I'm getting that to Haydn. I don't realize until I get to the shortcut and just fly into the wall.

OBH
2nd March 2010, 01:54 PM
Exactly!!! On a hot lap then get ruthlessly kicked in the testies.

Moa was never my favourite track anyway :)

AG-wolf
2nd March 2010, 02:12 PM
34.91 - 9sp - 2br - fury


I think that's the best I can do before I destroy something. Venom is unfathomably, mind-numbingly, infuriatingly, unmeasurably, intolerably slow. I can almost 100% confidently say it genuinely frustrates me more than anything in any other videogame I've ever played...

SaturnReturn
2nd March 2010, 07:43 PM
I LOL'd at that one AG-Wolf. What's really crazy is when you watch people review the game and talk about the insane speed while the video clip simultaneously shows them only playing at Venom speed and with pilot assist on. (I remember those days):lol

amplificated
2nd March 2010, 10:53 PM
@haydn and kgb

I think the start line is totally messed up on Moa. I don't get your problem, but my start line is actually before the visual beam by a little bit, on both forward and reverse. The new lap starts before i even cross it.

AG-wolf
3rd March 2010, 12:18 AM
That might explain why every time I used a boost before I passed the start/finish line, it would always count it on the new lap...

@saturn: yeah tell me about it, and even WOHD Phantom isn't as fast as F-Zero GX, or Wipeout 3 Phantom. On these slower speed classes I hit/scrape walls more, I fly off uncontrollably when I try to do mid-air trickery and shortcuts... it's ridiculous.

Dark_Phantom_89
3rd March 2010, 10:15 AM
I must be doing something seriously wrong this week, because my time is WAY off of the rest of you guys. I can only get 1 BR - where's the 2nd one? Boost BR start?

KGB
3rd March 2010, 10:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHoH5xRDXw. But slower. I've seen another where they are boosting before the mag strip and BRing there, have to try it out.

yeldar2097
3rd March 2010, 10:45 AM
Yeah if you stay right before the mag you can boostBR: Like so (Cheers Phaeton ;)) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdCkwmqpnh4)

Not sure if it's faster than a good boostBR. Personally I think the BoostBR is a bit faster (and MUCH easier to do (maybe not for BR-motion-pitch-aliens :P)) but it may be worth a try if the BoostBR is giving you trouble :)

Wotan
3rd March 2010, 11:11 AM
33.69 - 3 BR - 9 pads .

Just saw the double BR at final is possible at venom .

amplificated
3rd March 2010, 11:14 AM
actually I had just gotten up when I posted earlier, but actually being able to recall now, I remember having the same problem as you guys before realising that saving my turbo for the very last moment before the line seemed to be the problem.

I always used to mess up the very last BR the last time I was doing moa therma on venom, so I'd try and turn back to reset my boost, and I came to realise that the damn start line wasn't where it seemed to be!

phaeton_pl
3rd March 2010, 01:19 PM
My PB is 33.62 (Icaras HD, August 2009) but i can't get close to this.

Boost BR onto the magstrip is much slower on Venom than "classic method".

If you want "extra BR" check this video, 0:45 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIJKvr3p_s). I used this for my PB run.

It gives advantage but it's hard to control (just like all "extra BR's") :)

OBH
3rd March 2010, 03:40 PM
33.69 - 3 BR - 9 pads .

Just saw the double BR at final is possible at venom .

Aww im waaaaay off this time, need to book another session..... ive never even attempted a boostBR on Moa...

Sick time though mate! :guitar

Wish i could watch a video of the double br at the end but i rely on the librarys internet and youtube is disabled. Pfft.

Mietepiet
3rd March 2010, 05:31 PM
my time so far is 34.5x - 3br - fury

I used the br at end of 1st mag-strip (pheaton's vid)
and the boost-br onto 2nd mag-strip (yeldar's vid)

I was trying to shortcut the left-hander without a boost (also Yeldar's vid).
Does anybody know if this is possible on venom speed? So far I succeeded zero :( but I haven't mastered that 1st br yet.

KGB
3rd March 2010, 06:04 PM
34.12 - 2BR now. Much better. Really going to try and get in the 33's. You really have to get a bit of height at the shortcut in order to miss out the right-hand bend, if you can land pointing at the mag strip you're laughing.

yeldar2097
3rd March 2010, 09:19 PM
Lol, that vid I posted was also by Phaeton ;)

OBH
5th March 2010, 11:47 AM
33.60 - 3BR
Still cant do the double br, would increase it by a tenth or so, but im pretty pleased with that time none the less.

Dark_Phantom_89
5th March 2010, 01:57 PM
Fantastic time OBH :+

I'm still way off of you guys, gonna practice tonight.

OBH
6th March 2010, 12:59 AM
thank you kind sir! :)
got it down to 30.44 with my trusty pirahna+. Icaras+ would no doubt improve it further but there aren't enough good pirahna times around!

OBH
7th March 2010, 07:29 AM
Not many people posting times this week :(

KGB
7th March 2010, 08:09 AM
Phantom always brings them out of the woodwork. Some weeks there are more participants than others. I wish more took part in the TT myself.

Great time this week OBH. :beer

Dark_Phantom_89
8th March 2010, 11:02 AM
I couldn't improve my time (couldn't even do the 2nd BR) so it's only a 36.10 from me

wich
8th March 2010, 03:40 PM
I couldn't muster more then a 36.45, I know I can do it a bit faster, I was able to pull of barrel rolls at other places then the final bend, but never managed to do two or more barrel rolls successfully, let alone not screw up my lines too badly when doing such a lap... I need more practice.

Dark_Phantom_89
8th March 2010, 06:11 PM
This week has come to a close - congratulations to OBH for his victory this week and a big thank you to all who participated - your names will all be added to the Hall of Fame thread here. (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=161351#post161351)

This weeks criteria is as follows: SPEED LAP/UBERMALL (REVERSE)/FLASH/TRIAKIS

Best of luck to everyone :+

yeldar2097
9th March 2010, 12:04 AM
24.67 - 3BRs

amplificated
9th March 2010, 03:28 AM
That's pretty ****ing hilarious. Nice one, Yeldar.

I'll have a go at this later.

Rezatron
9th March 2010, 04:18 AM
24.67 - 3BRs (2 laps)
:eek:cold:clap Do 99 laps and see what you get :banzai

25.27 - 12SP - 3BR - Fury

I got both FFXIII and Demon's Souls coming in the mail this week so that's probably it for me. Farewell wipeout my love, perhaps we will meet each other again one day. :redface:

yeldar2097
9th March 2010, 08:45 AM
You ****er....gimme some of that FFXIII :twisted.

Saving money for travel sucks massively...need Heavy Rain and FFXIII -_-

/offtopic

Still a few spare BRs to get...maybe later

Edit: 24.47 - 12 - 3

KGB
9th March 2010, 09:40 AM
Sooner you go the better, 2 laps ffs! :)

amplificated
9th March 2010, 12:36 PM
Tentative time for this week:

25.24, 3 BR's, HD Triakis, 12 sp's

Started this earlier and did a few laps, leading me to start raging at the game as things didn't seem to be working. Then I remembered I set motion pitching off a few days ago and didn't set it back :(

Much happier now!

KGB
9th March 2010, 01:14 PM
I'm finding this weeks quest rather hard.

25.5x I think - 3BR - 11?sp - Fury.

IDReaper
10th March 2010, 02:39 AM
Okay I gave this a shot, here's mine:

25.69 - 12SP - 3BR - HD

:paperbag... I'll get back to you guys on that...

KGB
10th March 2010, 08:36 AM
25.33 - 11sp - 3BR - FURY. A bit better.

Dark_Phantom_89
10th March 2010, 09:04 AM
I haven't hit sub 26 yet. The sheer skill of the contenders here is amazing. My time is around the Global Rank 50 mark and it's still not good enough to beat you guys!

KGB
10th March 2010, 09:05 AM
You should try the TT DP. :eek

Dark_Phantom_89
10th March 2010, 09:10 AM
I completely forgot about it last week :paperbag

I'll definitely try it later today.

OBH
11th March 2010, 10:52 AM
gonna have a session later. Me feels radley will no doubt top this weeks :)

Dark_Phantom_89
11th March 2010, 12:16 PM
Got my time down to 25.73, 3BR's, 12SP's. Much room for improvement as my boost BR was a little sloppy.

OBH
13th March 2010, 04:19 PM
24.91
Honestly dont get how yeldars time is so fast. As far as i can make out theres very, very little room for personal improvement, yet im still a good .3 behind and he swears theres room for further improvement to his time :paperbag

Connavar
13th March 2010, 05:47 PM
Don't forget that in flash and venom, an extra BR is really worth the extra effort,
so you might want to take a suboptimal trajectory and jump on a wall to get
this extra BR, all this to save 0.3 seconds :D

I haven't done UberRev for some time but I remember you can do a triple BR
after the boost, by using a wall, this might be one of the keys.

yeldar2097
13th March 2010, 05:57 PM
o_O Never thought of that one before

My 24.47 was just a normal BoostBRBR with a BR at the start of the lap. There's defs a BR at the end that I didn't do and apparently there's another one after the boost with some crazy wall bouncing :dizzy. 2 BRs to spare then :+

Go OBH go (and everyone else :))!

OBH
13th March 2010, 06:12 PM
Bouncing off walls to br is a pain the bum.
Might have one more go, but i suck balls at this track and hate racing on it :)

phaeton_pl
13th March 2010, 06:51 PM
I never bounce off the walls to BR, there is enough other BR's to find :)
Didn't posted any time yet, busy with some "secret phantom project" :brickwall

yeldar2097
13th March 2010, 07:24 PM
24.45 - 12Pads - 3BRs - Triakis+ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXv5wC8bbrI)

KGB
13th March 2010, 07:34 PM
You've broke Youtube ffs! :)

OBH
14th March 2010, 09:37 AM
Now it makes perfect sense.
Didnt realise you could use your boost actually on the start line if you slow down!

yeldar2097
14th March 2010, 02:50 PM
Well actually you don't need to slow down. I've found that (pretty similar to Leungbok's Nose-down-up-boostBR) if you pitch up first then back down just as you boost you won't go quite so high when you boost across the line which means you won't twat the roof as often :P

leungbok
14th March 2010, 11:20 PM
Didn't posted any time yet, busy with some "secret phantom project" :brickwall
May i guess ? :D

Rezatron
14th March 2010, 11:54 PM
Quick FFXIII Break! 25.24, big improvement... :|:lol

phaeton_pl
15th March 2010, 12:02 AM
@leungbok

I finally decided to face my biggest enemy, it's called Vineta K forward. Long way to go but i'm starting to understand it.


On topic:
I hate Triakis, a now i hate flash too, and Ubermall rev a lil' bit.;)

Asayyeah
15th March 2010, 01:29 PM
Triakis fury : 24.87-3BR-12 SP

KGB
15th March 2010, 02:42 PM
That's me out of the top ten then :)

brainbeat
15th March 2010, 05:35 PM
works getting me down, being given too many hrs, just don't have as much spare time as i used to.


I managed a decentish time,
25.44 11 speedpads fury 3 brs

Dark_Phantom_89
15th March 2010, 07:21 PM
Quite a tricky one this week - congratulations to yeldar (:robot) for his victory this week and a big thumbs up to all who participated. Your names will all be added to the Hall of Fame thread.

The criteria for this week are as follows: SPEED LAP/TECH DE RA (FORWARD)/RAPIER/ASSEGAI

Good luck to all :+

leungbok
15th March 2010, 08:26 PM
24.03 - 4BRs 9sp fury

yeldar2097
15th March 2010, 10:41 PM
23.44 - 9 Pads - 4BRs - Assagai+

KGB
16th March 2010, 10:22 AM
24.13 - 8pads - 3BR - F.

This 4th BR is the little bump at the bottom of the hill right? Didn't manage it once in 50 laps :paperbag.

yeldar2097
16th March 2010, 11:09 AM
Yep, hardest BR ever. Slightly easier at Rapier than it is at Phantom (done is once in Rapier, never in Phantom :lol).
I only got it by fluke :)

But yeah:
1. 1st Corner
2. Top of hill after long left-hander
3. Little KGBump :g
4. BoostBR in the open section

OBH
16th March 2010, 11:38 AM
This'll be interesting. Ive used Assagai about twice :beer

brainbeat
16th March 2010, 11:45 PM
24.12 5brs 8 speedpads fury
theres a way to get 6 brs or 7 but not landed right myself. If you land the 4th br on the left lip just after the single speedpad then land on other left lip then ss right and get the lip on rhs.

Dark_Phantom_89
17th March 2010, 07:06 PM
24.41 from me. Damn you guys are insanely good - Top 10 global times :eek

OBH
18th March 2010, 09:29 AM
24.08 4brs assagai+

man i hate being so far behind :( hate the boost at the beginning, and all the silly brs.

I really am just a big sore loser :)

amplificated
18th March 2010, 12:00 PM
I'm the same way. I got one half way decent BR at the start today out of 40 laps.

24.27, 3br's, hd

This track is so annoying! I'm finding the start and the end are so hard to pull off well.

And then there's the 3 extra BR's that are only just possible...

yeldar2097
18th March 2010, 02:14 PM
Mm well the two BRs after the BoostBR in the open section (these are 2 of the one's
your talking about aren't they? ) aren't too hard but I'm not convinced that they're any
faster, especially the first one. I tried those BRs a few times but if you do a good
boostBR you end up having to shear off all the speed that you gain from the boostBR
by having to veer left in order to get said BR. Never really tried the other one but since
it's rapier I reckon it might not be that advantageous cos you have to compromise
your line massively (and you have the whole bouncing into the air thing.)

Might be way off base here but oh well :P

amplificated
18th March 2010, 02:50 PM
Yeah, those are the two. I, for some reason, can't stand it when my ghost is in front of me. And like you said, those two br's are hard to get something out of. When I try to do them and see my ghost flying off, it discourages me from attempting them immensely :P

And nearly every lap, I screw up the start... and get to watch my ghost for a while. Worst track for me!

I think you'd need to do both BR's for them to be of benefit. I think the line you get from doing the first makes the second advantageous in that situation, but on their own they're probably as you described; not worth the effort.

As it is, if done well, either can be just as good as a decent boost br though. 2 very hard to do "well" BR's, and one next-to-impossible one, is perhaps what I meant.

Venom they're probably worth going for though

yeldar2097
18th March 2010, 03:40 PM
Here's (http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=536033) a link to my 23.44 ghost if anyone is interested :)

brainbeat
18th March 2010, 04:09 PM
23.96 10 speedpads 4 brs.

Ill try that ghost yelda thanks,

Asayyeah
18th March 2010, 04:40 PM
24.32 3brs 9SP ( 24.61 2brs :blarg)

Rezatron
19th March 2010, 01:56 AM
23.89 - 4BR - 10SP - Fury

I reckon that's close to my limit.

triboy
21st March 2010, 01:37 PM
It's my first SL Ch, I usualy don't fly on rapier, and maybe my time is not amazing, but... Wy the hell not ;)

24.64 3 BR's 9SP Assegai F

phaeton_pl
21st March 2010, 06:54 PM
:clap Triboy is comming! :clap

I know Rapier isn't your fav speed class but it's only a little bit faster than flash ;)

triboy
21st March 2010, 11:13 PM
Keep laughing Phi, but guess who from polish pilots got the best time on Tech de ra fwd? ;)

24.42 3 Br's 10 SP Assegai F

Dark_Phantom_89
22nd March 2010, 10:07 AM
Good to see a new competitor :beer

phaeton_pl
22nd March 2010, 02:56 PM
Keep laughing Phi, but guess who from polish pilots got the best time on Tech de ra fwd?

24.33 9SP 3 BR's Assegai Fury

Is it me? :beer

OBH
22nd March 2010, 03:11 PM
if the library internet would let me dl that video i could see where im going wrong and improve my time :(

yeldar2097
22nd March 2010, 03:46 PM
Eh, what video?

Dark_Phantom_89
22nd March 2010, 07:15 PM
This week has come to a close - absolutely amazing times this week from everyone - very high up on the Global Leaderboards. Congratulations to yeldar for his victory this week :beer

All times will be added to the Hall of Fame thread located here (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7081)

As some of you may know, a certain SL master by the name of yeldar is travelling to pastures new and won't be around for a while. So, I thought - why not let him to choose the criteria for this week?

His choice was: SPEED LAP/THE AMPHISEUM (FORWARD)/PHANTOM/GOTEKI 45

Good luck everyone - we'll try and make you proud during your absence yeldar :)

phaeton_pl
22nd March 2010, 09:03 PM
25.98 8SP 2 BR's

Missed last BR :( I will try to improve, noting else to do with my PS3 while it's offline :-

Rezatron
22nd March 2010, 10:29 PM
24.33 9SP 3 BR's Assegai Fury

Is it me? :beer

It's me, i'm Polish. Gin dobre! Yak shi mash?

Although i've forgotten to speak it and barely understand anything in Polish nowadays...:redface:

ACE-FLO
22nd March 2010, 11:32 PM
Ok, gonna give this one a shot. Not thinking i'll get anything great tbh but should be fun.

I never practice offline :) I'm toast :D

amplificated
23rd March 2010, 07:11 AM
had a quickish shot using the fury ship, got 26.13 with 2 br's and some sloppy lines through a couple of corners, so I'll have another shot later

leungbok
23rd March 2010, 09:21 AM
25.66 - 10sp 3BRs fury

triboy
24th March 2010, 12:05 AM
I got 25.96 with 2 Br's and 7 sp G45 F, and 10 laps later I get 3rd Br, so my record for now is:
25.90 3Br's 9 sp G45 F.

Dark_Phantom_89
24th March 2010, 05:40 PM
So far I'm at 26.43 with 3BR's. I don't think I'm doing my 3rd BR in the right place though, as I miss a double speed pad if I do it, so I don't really know what's best.

yeldar2097
25th March 2010, 03:19 PM
Which one is the 3rd one? The one after the mag? Or are you skipping that one and going for the one at the end?

ACE-FLO
25th March 2010, 03:30 PM
27.15 / 6 SP / 2 BRs / G-45 phantom... meh, tried 4 goes and gave up. :(

leungbok
25th March 2010, 04:02 PM
@Ace-flo, Where are you boosting mate ?

ACE-FLO
25th March 2010, 04:31 PM
I BR just before the first drop, on the left turn - airbrake gets me the lift then I BR, hit the speed pad and BR over the dip just before the left turn which leads you to the 2 long straights by a hairpin bend. I use my Turbo on the second straight and that's that...

... wait, can I turbo=BR that straight?

more help would be appreciated :) thanks Leungy :rock :)

Dark_Phantom_89
25th March 2010, 04:38 PM
Which one is the 3rd one? The one after the mag? Or are you skipping that one and going for the one at the end?

yeldar?! How are you still around? Unless you're the spirit of yeldar sent to guide us ;)

I'm using the boost after the mag strip and getting the 3rd BR that way. But I can't BR AND hit the double speed pad (I don't get enough air if I aim for the speed pads.) What's this BR at the end? Right before the final right turn?

And ACE - glad to have you on board mate, it's the taking part that counts :rock

leungbok
25th March 2010, 04:53 PM
Yeldar still here ! Astonishing !! :rolleyes:

@Ace-flo, boost where you br before the first drop, it's faster even if you get less BRs ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYOtZ8LE6Jc

triboy
25th March 2010, 10:57 PM
True, once I get 5 BR's on one lap, and didn't make amazing time.

ACE-FLO
26th March 2010, 12:18 AM
Which one is the 3rd one? The one after the mag? Or are you skipping that one and going for the one at the end?
living proof, even if you're on holidays touring continents half way across the planet - you'll get adrenaline sickness and come here for your fixes :D

At Leungy, just saw the vid, am gonna try that :) thanks buddy :)

KGB
26th March 2010, 09:53 AM
I had a quick go at this (too busy trying to destroy Olympus :twisted) and I suck big time, can't remember what I have but it's bad. Top 50/40?, I'll edit later.

yeldar2097
26th March 2010, 02:22 PM
Well when i've just woken up and my mates are still asleep and I have nothing better to do, I use this thing called wifi - you may have heard of it.

ACE-FLO
26th March 2010, 02:52 PM
am from the HIFI generation... i also enjoy sci-fi, and i'm living kinda lo-fi (with mum)

when do you get back bud? :)

Woopzilla
27th March 2010, 09:30 AM
Thought I'd give it a shot... set a new personal best :g (though not as good as you guys):

26:14 / 11 SP / 2 BR / Fury

OBH
28th March 2010, 09:22 AM
25.81 fury
not bad, but if i can tighten lines and hit the 4th br i should be able to improve.

goteki is so wierd to fly :)

AG-wolf
28th March 2010, 02:57 PM
damn I hate Goteki... it's twitchy as all get out, and especially bad on Amphiseum.

26.56 8sp 4br Fury

I didn't put much effort into this because I think I'm gonna kill something otherwise, very infuriating lol

SaturnReturn
28th March 2010, 03:29 PM
What's with all the Goteki hate? Weird? Twitchy? You must all be doing it wrong. :P

triboy
28th March 2010, 09:53 PM
Well, i dunno, it's very interesting ship ;)

25.72 4Br's 7 Sp G45 Fury

BTW, here is my litlle movie about 5x Br's on Amphi ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6sOvfAbF_U

OBH
29th March 2010, 07:04 AM
good time triboy :)

i just find goteki to be slow personally. shame cos i also think the fury ship looks badass.

phaeton_pl
29th March 2010, 07:44 AM
I think Goteki is a fast ship, i was testing it on Sol 2 and i was surprised with constant sub 19's. The problem is, i don't want to put much effort in perfecting my Goteki's time, because i will beat it with Icaras for sure. :)

Congrats Tri - my man! :D

amplificated
29th March 2010, 07:56 AM
The G'45 feels a bit like the Icaras to me. At least when comparing the Fury versions. It's pretty smooth, but it's on the slower side of things overall. The thrust is handy online. Not much point in using it in SL though since there are ships that can take corners/straights faster. Furymau is better in almost every way for SL.

Speaking of the Furymau, am I the only one who finds it harder to pitch with than most of the other ships? I'm probably doing it wrong :(

Back on topic, I attempted a few more laps but failed to get a better time. Again, :(

OBH
29th March 2010, 05:44 PM
update - 25.71 - 8sps 4brs :)

while at mine mr phlanj decided to compete and got 25.80 too

Dark_Phantom_89
29th March 2010, 06:16 PM
Another week has come to a close - a big congratulations to all who participated, and well done to leungbok for his victory this week :beer

All of your names will be added to the Hall of Fame thread here (http://www.wipeoutzone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=161351#post161351)

The Speed Lap Challenge also welcomes its newest competitors (very strong ones too) - triboy and Woopzilla :rock

The criteria for this week are as follows: SPEED LAP/SOL 2 (REVERSE)/VENOM/EG-X

Good luck everybody

brainbeat
29th March 2010, 06:17 PM
26.46 3brs
I?ve not had much time this week been fiddling around with my new iphone, bought 3 wipeout clones, 1 of them is pretty good, not wipeout though. low gravity racer 2.

Dark_Phantom_89
29th March 2010, 06:20 PM
Just in time brainbeat - I'll add you to the list mate

Woopzilla
29th March 2010, 07:07 PM
29.32 / 7 SP / 3 BR / Fury

New personal best. :D

OBH
29th March 2010, 10:44 PM
aww mr phlanj gets no mention of being a strong contender :g hah, he'll hate that when i tell him.

did take him over 297 laps though! :beer

yeldar2097
29th March 2010, 11:24 PM
Who got done for posession and what the bloody hell is a ranga? :lol

AG-wolf
30th March 2010, 01:37 AM
29.14 6sp 4br Fury

If I could clean up my lines, I could probably get better, but I've already got bad thumb cramps with just playing for half an hour, and Venom is always infuriating :P

amplificated
30th March 2010, 04:22 AM
28.75, 4 BR's, 6 sp's, Fury 'X

Out of curiosity, how did barnster and particularly shapealot smash 28 seconds so badly? I'd like to see a video of that... had a go with the icaras and only got 28.36, thought it was an ok lap but didn't see how 27.2X was possible. Shape must have absolutely nailed it

leungbok
30th March 2010, 05:26 AM
Xbarnsterx and Shapealot are BR kings for slower classes, they do incredible stuff like that :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8kLUpb-6Y0 :eek

Rezatron
30th March 2010, 05:32 AM
Double BR on the bridge section I presume, here's a vid at Flash and Rapier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdomnznNcSA

Looks easy in the vids but I couldn't do it when I did my Sol2r SLs a few months ago.

amplificated
30th March 2010, 06:00 AM
Both of those vids are awesome; but that AP< is just insane :eek

I'll have to have a look at attempting a double then, though I'm nowhere near as good as others are at making a BR out of nothing. To think, I've been using the ramp on the side to get my single BR, like some kind of schmuck :lol

OBH
30th March 2010, 07:06 AM
28.61
somethings going seriously wrong if im a massive 2 seconds behind :)

Woopzilla
30th March 2010, 07:45 AM
Improved to:
29.17 / 7 SP / 3 BR / Fury

Where are you guys getting your 4th barrel roll if you aren't double BRing on the bridge? :o

I'm boost-BRing after the S bend at the beginning, once when going up the curved ramp and once on the bridge with the aid of a sideshift clipping the barrier/wall. :redface:

amplificated
30th March 2010, 08:26 AM
There's one at the start. I approach the start line from the right and boost as I'm about to hit the 2nd grid position, pitch up a little and BR off the bump just ahead.

On the double-br: I tried about 40 laps mostly going for a double BR on that bridge section, and managed to do it once... but couldn't replicate it. I'm finding it pretty tough to pull off.

Woopzilla
30th March 2010, 09:34 AM
Hey thanks! That shaved off .28 of my time! :D

28.89 / 6 SP / 4 BR / Fury

I'm useless at finding barrel rolls myself. :redface:

Dark_Phantom_89
30th March 2010, 10:22 AM
aww mr phlanj gets no mention of being a strong contender :g hah, he'll hate that when i tell him.

did take him over 297 laps though! :beer

Lol of course he's a worthy contender, he's just not a new one which is why I didn't put his name down ;)

ACE-FLO
30th March 2010, 05:56 PM
31.48 / 3BR / 6SP / FURY... damn you fast pilots :lol