Pulse on PS2 now official!

[DawnFireDragoon]

huh...they took the flare out. that's a shame, it looks a thousand times better with it!!!

also, it's still uncertain if it's even coming out in europe, sony or studio livepool are yet to comment.

[Frances_Penfold]

Importing for a home console is so much more complicated than importing for handhelds :( Not just the region locking-- won't the difference between 50 and 60 hz SDTVs be an issue as well?

I'm still glad that folks across the pond may get to play a PS2 version-- PAL has been the biggest supporter of Wipeout for a long time and definitely deserves the game, regardless of what happens for JPN and North America ;)

[Darkdrium777]

If it's not coming out in this territory, I won't buy it but I'll find some way of playing it. Too bad for Sony, but hey: if they don't care about me (And the others in the same situation), why should I care about them? :|

And import like RJ said, is not an option. I don't have fifty PS2 consoles for every region lying around, just the NTSC one.

[JABBERJAW]

If it comes out before june 19, we will be playing it in the tourney

[DawnFireDragoon]

well, here i am again with another optomistic link indicating a release of this long-awaited game! :)

http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation2/4-/9600778/WipEout-Pulse/Product.html

i really hope that price sticks too!!! if i knew it was 100% gonna come out, i would pre-order it right now!

[Darkdrium777]

Looks like it's a PAL only release for now. Fkin sweet Sony, really fkin sweet. :-

http://www.playfrance.com/ps2-wipeout-pulse.html

Also gotta love the fact that websites have no clue when it's coming out, only that it seems to be soon. Yet no advertising, etc. Do they even expect to make money out of it at Sony?

[GreenPhazon]

I know I've said it already, but this seems to be another nonsensical mistake to add to Sony's list.

[rdmx]

I thought inconnue simply means unknown, not cancelled. Keep your hopes up...

[Darkdrium777]

From "unknown" you can deduce no information was given about those two territories. The fact that a date ONLY appears for PAL means that no info was given for elsewhere. The fact that this game's release is in so much fog and that a date is only tentatively given from site to site ONLY for PAL release is pretty bad for the other territories.
I've seen the same being done for Monster Hunter Dos (Which ended up as a Japan only release, the "CANCELLED" status appearing a full year after the game's release in Japan).

[KIGO1987]

Why is there a need for territories? Why must there be a PAL format and a NTSC format as well? Why cant there be a universal format? It'll save alot of peoples balls in the long run.

[ACE-FLO]

i echo Kigo's comment-
and add territories are for dogs to piss in...

[DawnFireDragoon]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Wipeout-Pulse-PS3/dp/B00260GS58/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1240701399&sr=1-2


wtf?

amazon getting mixed up, or something happening we don't know anything about at all!?!?!?

i know a lot of you would prefer it on ps3, but i don't have one...so i hope this is a error.

[GreenPhazon]

Maybe Amazon have the wrong end of the stick and it's Pulse tracks fo HD.

[Xavier]

I also hope Japan gets it. Remember, Japan never even got the PSP version. Fortunately the PSP is region free, so people in Japan are free to play the NA or EU versions (like I do), but after being denied Fusion, it would be unfair to deny them again.

(At least with PS2 games, people in the "wrong" territories can always bite the bullet and buy a second PS2 from that region. With the PSP Pulse DLC, you can't even do that. So even a DLC-included PS2 Pulse released only in the EU would be better than what we've got now.)

[Pico de Goroh]

For my first post, let me suggest that we conduct an email bomb of SCEA to let them know we want this port in America. I have no idea who we'd email but who's with me!?!?

[Cyberio]

This is becoming a reality.

The Spain GAME (http://www.game.es/ficha/ficha.aspx?SKU=061194) and the UK (http://www.game.co.uk/PS2/Racing/~r339144/WipEout-Pulse/?s=wipeout%20pulse) one are pre-selling the game (for now, UK one only)

[NightArh]

Yes u can buy it. But it consists only offline gaming expirience... :(

[ACE-FLO]

Yeah, I was thinking there was nothing Pulse like about having it on the PS2, the lack of online multiplayer is what kills the concept dead in its tracks, for me. It woulda made more sense to import Pure with all its free DLC thrown in! I'd buy it then! Pure is a better game offline compared to Pulse.

[AnErare]

This is becoming a reality.

The Spain GAME (http://www.game.es/ficha/ficha.aspx?SKU=061194) and the UK (http://www.game.co.uk/PS2/Racing/%7Er339144/WipEout-Pulse/?s=wipeout%20pulse) one are pre-selling the game (for now, UK one only)

That hardly makes it fact.. An online shop in The Netherlands has had it up for pre-order for the last 3 or 4 months..

[DawnFireDragoon]

can someone from Stuido Liverpool just clear this up once and for all please! :) so we can either forget it or give sony some money to play it!

it's supposedly out in 10 days?

what is going on?

[JABBERJAW]

agreed, I would like to preorder immediately if it is coming out, to have it in the North
American wipeout tourney

[DawnFireDragoon]

still nothing!

booooooo.

*edit....this site says it's been put back another week.......the confusion lives on. woohoo. :(


http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation2/4-/9600778/WipEout-Pulse/Product.html

[Amorbis]

I've just been browsing the Amazon market place and I found something interesting. Two market place sellers (not Amazon) are listing the game. This either suggests that the game is possibly real, they currently have the game, or are just listing it because Amazon is. The Play.com page contradicts this, which adds even more speculation ;).

Here's the Amazon page. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00260GS58/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1244070353&sr=1-2&condition=new)

[lunar]

Good spot, Amorbis. It`s also on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PS2-Wipeout-Pulse-UK-Release-New-Sealed_W0QQitemZ200348911747QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS?hash=item2ea5b9c883&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1121%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

I don`t think Amazon Marketplace and ebay sellers would have it listed if the game didn`t physically exist! The ebay seller surely has to actually know he will have it available to sell before he will list it. To list a product you may not be able to sell does not compute. Someone could ask the ebay seller if it`s a real thing I suppose. I`m almost 100% sure this is real, now we just have to find out if Jaytech works in it! ;)

[alterego]

Hi All.

Here it is the news on playstation.com.....it's all true!

http://it.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item152266/WipEout%C2%AE-Pulse/

read you soon
cdrom

[guillaume]

!!!

Next convention's tournament is gonna be a bitch to set up! Mad-Ice, still up for the job? ;)

[Xavier]

Alterego, that's great news! Now they just need to get the game out in NA and JP!

I'm looking at that site's review of Pure also:

http://it.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item47663/WipEout-Pure/

...is that what the European Pure looks like, or are those screenshots from a pre-release version? The fonts are different from the US version that I'm used to.

[Amorbis]

http://it.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item152266/WipEout%C2%AE-Pulse/

Nice find Alterego. If you look closely at the screen shots I think you can see an Auricom in two of the split screen screen shots. Here's hoping that this means all of the downloadable content is available on the PS2 version. It can only get better if our friends outside of Europe get to enjoy Pulse on PS2 :D.

Edit: I've attached one of the pictures from the site with what appears have Auricom.

[lunar]

Another good spot, let`s hope that means it`s all on the disk. And thanks also to Alterego for finding confirmation. Stand back and hold onto your hats because the Sony publicity machine is certainly roaring into life on this game!!:rock

I think I will have to pre-order, can`t hold out much longer :paperbag

[Mad-Ice]

!!!

Next convention's tournament is gonna be a bitch to set up! Mad-Ice, still up for the job? ;)

Well, you know me! I will find a way.

Thanks guys for finding this great news. I really hope the DLC is on the disk. I am so curious how and if this game is different from it PSP counterpart?

[Sausehuhn]

Before the release date was changed to one it's now, the information (on Amazon) clearly stated that there's split screen and all DLC on the disk :)

Ah, and there's a clearly visible update on the textures: just look at the track surface and the trees. Not sure if there are also more polygons; but I doubt that.

[JABBERJAW]

I ordered one through amazon. Let's seewhat happens. I asked a question about shipping, see if it can get here faster, maybe before the tourney

[DawnFireDragoon]

awesome news.

good job guys :)

when it's left to the fans to find out if a game even exists, we come through. woohooo!!!!

pre-ordering right now.

[alterego]

Hi Xavier, hi all.


Alterego, that's great news! Now they just need to get the game out in NA and JP!

I'm looking at that site's review of Pure also:

http://it.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item47663/WipEout-Pure/

...is that what the European Pure looks like, or are those screenshots from a pre-release version? The fonts are different from the US version that I'm used to.

I see and understand what you mean, but, if i remember well, i own usa and eur version and the graphics are the same.
maybe a prerelease image :)
or
...an option hud style i never find/use..... ;)

read you soon
cdrom

ps confirmed in Italy wipeout pulse for ps2 from 05/06/09!!! TODAY!!!!!

[kanar]

oO! just gave a call to a local retailer here in France, they said june 17. Can't wait!!!

[Cyberio]

In Spain till 11, and maybe a few days later. In any case, There's not much left.
Probably this will be the last game i buy for PS2.

[NightArh]

PS2 is dead gaming platform... PS4 and xBox 720 are already in development :P

[Xavier]

I see and understand what you mean, but, if i remember well, i own usa and eur version and the graphics are the same.
maybe a prerelease image :)

I figured it was prerelease, but had been hoping otherwise. :D I kind of like that HUD more than the "real" one, particularly the number "1" in the font.

[DawnFireDragoon]

so i ordered this from amazon, on site, it says release for 17th june...which i thought was odd as it is a wednesday.

got an e-mail saying they're been supplied on friday 19th...which is a friday and makes more sense for a release of a video game...so i guess i will be getting it on the friday. :)

fingers crossed this date sticks. i will put a video up on youtube for anyone wanting to see/know about features different stuff. dlc content info e.t.c....which should be better quality than my psp one's were (if anyone saw them) because it will be played on a big screen!!!!! :)

woohoo. week and a half.

[ACE-FLO]

Looking forward to this Emerald Dragoon - be sure to post plenty of pics and list all the differences between the PSP and PS2 veriso...

So much appreciated mate!!!:nod

[DawnFireDragoon]

i'll fire it up on my mates 26'' tv rather than my 14'' one too, just so the picture is better and get the psp version running next to me while i give the game a go and run off the features for you guys.

i'll try and get some pics too.

[G'Kyl]

We just got it. All the DLC is there and it's now part of the regular campaign - no more "DLC grids". Just wanted to let you know. :)

Ben

[NightArh]

So how is it at all?

[kanar]

awww sounds awesome. Can't wait!

[Mad-Ice]

Thanks Ben, superb. I can not wait to play it myself and to see the differences.

[NightArh]

Is it playable on ps3?

[kanar]

the first ps3 versions are compatible cos they hav the ps2 processors inside (my boeing for example lol). But the new versions haven't this hardware compatibility anymore. Hope they'll launch an emulation compatibility one day.

[stinkleroy]

Why oh why did I give my PS2 away? :brickwall

[DawnFireDragoon]

so they mixed the new stuff into the regular campaign. sounds good to me.

[AnErare]

Why oh why did I give my PS2 away? :brickwall

I've never even had one :P And I do own a copy of Fusion.. Certainly Pulse is going to earn a place on my bookshelves so one of those sleek PS2's has got to come in soon :>

[Xavier]

Are the campaigns now bigger, to include formerly-DLC stuff, or have some races been changed to use the new tracks instead of the old ones?

Can't wait for this game to reach the US (where DLC was never available) and Japan (where Pulse itself was never sold)!

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

I was wondering whether it had a LAN link-up mode, like the old games? That would be really cool, as we could play it through Xlink Kai with the DLC ships!:D
Also, isn't the PS2 a little harder to hack than a PSP? So the game wouldn't be ruined by cheats, as I understand Pulse PSP was (I wasn't around when it came out, got the game in March this year, by which time there weren't many cheaters online (or anybody else!:lol).

[lunar]

I would think you are right that Pulse PS2 should be be harder to cheat. To avoid any controversy, there is no reason why somebody shouldn`t have "standard" hardware and I hope that the dreaded "Jaytech" doesn`t work on it either. I guess PS2 Pulse has no online functionality so we will need to keep our own records for comparing times as there will probably be nothing official.

Rob, in this case (if you read this) I think we could get some great competition going on WipeoutZone with this game if we had tables for it, because a Wipeout Zone honour system would be the best way of comparing times I think.

[ACE-FLO]

SO - let me get this straight - supposed to be worth buying Pulse for the PS2 for its free DLC? WTF? Thats a cop out - I don't think this game should sell for more than 10 British Pounds... They are fooling us with this release - they really are...

I bet you all have pulse on the PSP and are now wanting to get pulse again for the PS2 just because it has free DLC... I don't get it. Am I missing something here? They're still making you pay twice for what is essentially still the same game,+ Campaign mode is a suck off! SO what if they have DLC tracks thrown into campaing mode - it don't justify the release... it just don't sorry...

What they could done was combine the best elements of both PSP titles (pure and Pulse) and release this with all DLC thrown in - that woulda been a surefire hit (coulda even called it Wipeout Pace or Perfection)...

It just dojn't make any sense to me... no sense at all why they have done this!

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

Well, some people don't like playing on handhelds, I guess (I do though). That's who the release is for (although it's very late). Also, it could end all the OFW/ CFW crap surrounding the PSP version.
I agree that it's maybe not worth the money if you already own Pulse PSP, but if it has LAN multiplayer and is cheat-proof (or at least much harder to cheat on), I'll still buy it - imagine Icaras or Auricom online:D!!! And record tables that don't have 1 second lap times on them:lol!

[DawnFireDragoon]

this all comes down to personal taste, i like having wipeout on psp so i can play it when i travel/go away, but playing wipeout on a big screen at home is my prefered set-up.

i love the fact we all get the chance to have another full screen wipeout. and as much as i would like pure too, pulse will look better pumped up to big screen as it hard smoother graphics already...so they made a good call with that.

i will be buying it on ps2, even though i already have it on psp and bought all the DLC...but don't really care too much as i said above, big screen, split screen, dlc filled wipeout is gonna be great :)

a lot of people here will want a copy for tournaments and meet-ups from what others have said too. so it's all good.

[ACE-FLO]

All very good points guys.... You know what I'm really screwing about is the fact that they coulda put some Pure in to the mix. And though I don't think its gonna do well as a release, I think I may find myself buying one anyway... I'll probably be trying to stay away from buying it coz it makes no sense having the same game twice... but the part of my brain which is responsible for many unjustified decisions - will no doubt ensure it!

You know, sometimes I really hate myself!

[Sausehuhn]

imagine Icaras or Auricom online
Did I miss something here? I thought the game was offline only?

[ACE-FLO]

Yep, you sure did!

Read the MrsMadSmartAlex' post - 6 posts above yours. lol.

[DawnFireDragoon]

as far as i know it's not got online play, but instead has local split-screen play.

which is bad for a lot of the pulse fans still playing, as online is what seems to keep people playing the game, but good for any meet-ups of zoners or just chilling with friends.

[Sausehuhn]

Still, even via Xlink, it's not yet confirmed that the game supports LAN, is it? As it has split screen multiplayer included, I somehow doubt there will be a LAN option :|

[DawnFireDragoon]

sadly, you're probably right.

[JABBERJAW]

important questions :

1) negcon?

2) link?

3) pitch foward equals speed boost?

4) Does it run at a better framerate than psp?

5) Does it look better than psp when it goes through component?


I bet it would look pretty good on a old ps3 with the upscale on

I will be happy to have it any way on the ps2. This is a game noone expected, and just an extra way to play.

[Frances_Penfold]

I am *completely* shocked that this was actually released.

SCEA can't see fit to release fully completed DLC for Pulse PSP via PSN yet SCEE has produced a new version of a commercially failed game on a dying console? :dizzy

NOT that I am complaining but this seems against all odds from a business perspective. Ah well :)

So how many North Americans will be importing a PAL PS2 to play this?

[ACE-FLO]

I share your view completely. Page before this I'm ballistic...

erm, Apparently, Pulse went platinum! and from what I understand, only the best selling titles go Platinum... Who cooked up the findings and made Pulse go Plat? the guy deserves a slap to the head. I went into Game over Easter and asked some question to a staff member about WipeoutHD - the guy didn't know what Wipeout was, awareness just aint there... I smell a rat... a very dead one!

[djb]

According to Gamecentral (channel 4 teletext uk) wipeout pulse is out tomorrow for the ps2, according to amazon and play.com its out next week for the ps2, does anyone have any info on this? did they make it negcon compatible by any chance? i cant find any info anywhere!

~doesnt matter, i just found the thread!

[Cyberio]

I pre-ordered, because yesterday it wasn't in Madrid yet. Probably tomorrow or Monday i will have it.

Am I the only one here who hasn't a PSP and are expecting this game as if it is new? lol

[AnErare]

A Dutch online warehouse had it up for pre-order for a few months saying it would come today but today it says next friday..

[El_Patas]

Hi,

the game is published yesterday in Spain!!! :beer

I can't say how good is this game, the achievement from Studio Liverpool in the Ps2 is outstanding for this game.

I don't have the Psp version and i can't compare with it, i don't like
portátils, i prefer play in a big screen, but i have the Wipeout HD
in the Ps3 playing it a lot, and all i can say about this Wipeout Pulse in Ps2 is:

DON'T MISS IT!!!

Graphically is stilysh, sólid, clear backgrounds, colourful, running fast and
smooth.
I have a big Panasonic CRT tv of 32" connected with a component cable and
visually is just incredible.

Off course i'm playing in the video mode of 60hz, yes! includes selector
of 60hz, and also the option of 16:9 for panorámic tv's/panels. Yeah!!

The principal mode is the Race Campaign, and in the mode Racebox, there's
up to 7 different events you can customize individually:

- Single Race
- Head to Head
- Time Trial
- Speed Lap
- Tournament
- Zone
- Eliminator

In this modes and from the first time you can use all the ships including the extra ships from the extra
downloadable content for Psp, at this moment only 3 circuits availables.

I don't know why, but i like more all the circuits in this version, than the circuits in the Wipeout HD of Ps3.
Off course a few circuits are the same of the Wipeout HD and in the Psp version, but i like too much how
looks in the Ps2 version.

For the audio, exist 16 audio tracks, which you can disable individually, and hear all the tracks in a sequential,
or random way.

For the bad points, loading times are large, but i think is normal, if you have
a hard disk, install on it, and off course you have reduced loading times and
the game runs more smooth.
I tested the game in the Ps3 and seems works well, is compatible.

For playing two guys at the same time, you can choose split screen
vertical or horizontal, but in this mode i noticed a lot of slodowns of the
framerate.

The replays are so just fantastic, you can check the graphics in backgrounds
and ships nicely, with detail running fast.

The spanish version, is a multi 5 language, i think all the european versions
are the same disc.

The text languages are: english, spanish, french, german, and italian.

You can check real photos of the case, manual, and disc here:

http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_hilo-oficial-wipeout-pulse_1248624

Enjoy Wipeout!!!

[NightArh]

Thanks for review! :+ And welcome to the Zone!

[El_Patas]

Many thanks! well i hope this helps, i played all the wipeouts, but
i'm not a hardcore player, i hope anybody can compare this
version with the other versions, and can give more detailed
information. :p

Regards.

[ACE-FLO]

I think i'm retracting my previous statement - this actually is interesting me now - for what reason I cannot guage atm... But I do like it... However I've convinced myself to get the PSn Download for pulse now - so - really, it makes no sense for me to get the PS2 version coz if I did - I'd have 3 copies of essentially the same game - that's kinda anal...

However - I still want the PS2 veriso... go figure!

[djb]

hey nice review! is there any mention of negcon support in the manual?

[El_Patas]

Mmh...sorry, not, and also in the manual specify only compatible with
Dualshock 2 controller.

Another options in-game is you have three type of camera views, one in
first person, and two in third person.
Also three options for customize the airbrakes, custom, double airbrake and
single airbrake.

Options for dynamic hud are, default, concave, and off.


Regards.

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

Hi El Patas! Thanks for the info!:+
I was wondering if there is any option to link up 2 or more PS2s and play multiplayer on LAN? This would be my only reason to buy this (I already have the PSP version).
Thanks.

[El_Patas]

Hi,

i don't see any option about lan in the manual and in game options, i
think not, but never i have in my hands a game with the option of lan or
anithyng else for link various consoles, if this is not hide in any way on
the disc the response is no, sorry.

Regards.

[DawnFireDragoon]

nice, thanks for the info. cool pics of the box too.

those pictures of the ships next to the team logo's would make cool avatars here on the Zone too!! :)

[djb]

Aww thanks for the swift reply! no negcon=broken heart, im off to cry over my 3se:(

[El_Patas]

nice, thanks for the info. cool pics of the box too.

those pictures of the ships next to the team logo's would make cool avatars here on the Zone too!! :)

Hi,

if you liked the logo's, i take them from the official site in here:

http://www.wipeout-game.com/html/content/TeamInfo?team=AG_Systems

You can see also the same logo's in the middle page with a different
colours, but the more interesting is in the panel of the the bottom right.
There is the logos i take, and all the logo's for all the teams in all the Wipeout's!!

For example the Feisar is a team who exist from the first Wipeout,
scroll down the bar in the bottom right panel and you can see all the logo's from
the first title and check the evolution, all in nice quality, fantastic!!

Enjoy!!!

[JABBERJAW]

Ok, here's a question I think everyone would like to know, and since you didn't play the psp version, I don't think You understood the question earlier



1) At the start of a TT race. do not touch gas.

23)after the announcer says go. hold foward on the dpad. Does the ship move foward at a slow speed?

3) After the announcer says go, hold foward on the ANALOG STICK. Does the ship move foward at a slow speed



Number three is a check for a bug, if dpad doesn't move you foward, does the analog sitck

[El_Patas]

Well, i don't understood you at all, but i made the two tests with the same
result.

1) I started a TT race without touching the gas.

2) After the go voice i hold forward on dpad and, YES, the ship moves
forward at low speed.

3) After the go voice i hold forward on the LEFT ANALOG STICK and, YES,
the ship moves forward at low speed.


And what is the bad thing caused for the bug, if this exist?

The bug cause the ship don't go forward at low speed with the dpad?

Regards.

[Mad-Ice]

Well, there goes the planet :bomb!! That is too bad SL did not alter this. Thanks for answering those questions El Patas.

[MrSmadSmartAlex]

The bad thing about it is that it means "the auto-pitch mod" will still work (I think), resulting in unfair play:frown:, El Patas. But thanks again for the info.:+

[DawnFireDragoon]

Hi,

if you liked the logo's, i take them from the official site in here:

http://www.wipeout-game.com/html/content/TeamInfo?team=AG_Systems

You can see also the same logo's in the middle page with a different
colours, but the more interesting is in the panel of the the bottom right.
There is the logos i take, and all the logo's for all the teams in all the Wipeout's!!

For example the Feisar is a team who exist from the first Wipeout,
scroll down the bar in the bottom right panel and you can see all the logo's from
the first title and check the evolution, all in nice quality, fantastic!!

Enjoy!!!

thanks, i remember seeing these a while back, i forgot where though!!!

i never visit the so-called 'official site', as it is never updated and a bit rubbish really...considering wipeout has a huge ammount of history and has new stuff on the way.

thanks again for all the pulse ps2 info t oo!

[El_Patas]

The bad thing about it is that it means "the auto-pitch mod" will still work (I think), resulting in unfair play:frown:, El Patas. But thanks again for the info.:+

But, this "auto-pitch mod", what means exactly?

And this is considered a bug? :eek

When anybody are playing you don't run with the dpad or analog stick without the gas...

Do you think this "auto-pitch mod" is still working?

Well, i think only one guy with the two versions of the game, and knows this
thing, and how it works, can answer this question at 100%...


thanks, i remember seeing these a while back, i forgot where though!!!

i never visit the so-called 'official site', as it is never updated and a bit rubbish really...considering wipeout has a huge ammount of history and has new stuff on the way.

thanks again for all the pulse ps2 info t oo!

Yes, you are right also, the Wipeout saga, needs a more big, better and
complete Wipeout official site covering all the games of this instant classics.

Best regards.

[JABBERJAW]

el Patas, the problem with what you told us it this

1) when you hold foward on the stick the entire race, you are faster than staying flat the whole race

2) it is difficult to do this, so people taped the analog stick foward, and steered with the dpad. When pitch back was needed, pitch back on the DPAD overode the analog stick being taped down. This resulted in times about 2 seconds faster than " real racing"

3) Rob Foxx outlawed the technique basically stating that all controls must be done without taping the analog stick foward, do if you can do it manually, that is fine.

4) It doesn't bother me that this is still in the game since I hold the controller like a freak, not to mention ps3 controllers that will work easier holding the stick foward all the time


Thanks for the info.

[ACE-FLO]

Sony/SL lied to us man - there is no way pulse sold so many copies that it went platinum, they just made it platiunum so they can justify another relealse - which imo - is not a bad thing - if my prediction had come true... but to release pulse on ps2 is baffling me tbh...

I dont know if I want it or not... If I do get it, I wont play it, no online mode - and I do want another wipeout release soon. But would prefer it on the PSP not the PS2 coz of the lack of online mode...

Anyway - its all about the PS3 now so guess that's where I should focussing!!!

[DawnFireDragoon]

if you just play pulse for the online stuff, you have it on psp.

if you wanna have a complete package, no downloading or firmware or any of that, on big screen, buy the ps2 port.

'It's all about the PS3 now' is almost true, but most people on these forums still enjoy the oldies...

HD is about to get bigger with the Fury Expansion...then i guess, it's either another expansion...or a new wipeout.

-new psp game to go with the PSPgo?
-full feature packed new ps3 one?
-both? lets hope so.

but regarding Pulse PS2, it's down to whether you think it's worth it.

i like the online stuff of the PSP version...and love playing with different custom skins, but having one disc with it all on and just presssing on and it working and having it on the big screen, while i sit back holding a dual shock and a drink...that is for me. :)

[ACE-FLO]

Yes, you make it sound tempting Ed, ... um, I do have a 46 inch Sony LCD rear projection TV. Man, I hate myself... I'm stuck!

[DawnFireDragoon]

it's only 18 quid...either way.

but you could always just get a psp to tv adapter if your Tv has component input and supports NTSC signal. then just play your Pulse PSP on big screen ONLINE! :)

but that leads me to another point...in a year no one will really be playing online aside from the odd retro meet up organised on these forums...

...ha ha ha, i keep throwing all this stuff at you giving you two sides to the argument... :dizzy

...hell, if you want the game get it. if not...it doesn't matter you've already got it!!!! :D

[ACE-FLO]

lol, thanks for playing advocate, you presented well.

So I know i've made the right choice, I'm gonna get a PS3 and HD with Fury pack... no doubts with that option...

Nice bounce here, Ed. thank you.

[DawnFireDragoon]

a good choice, i will be joining you as soon as sony announce the slimline ps3...asuming they remember how to announce things at some point in the future. :)

I know there are no concrete details...but i have a slim psone and ps2 and i'm quite happy to wait, so by the time the slim ps3 is out, i can get wipeout with all it's dlc goodness in one go.

fingers crossed, fall, this year.

[ACE-FLO]

my girlfriend has kinda hinted about getting me one for my bday, but I can't wait til August lol.

More than anything, I just wanna race my customs online, on a HDready TV.

the psp screen is too small for wipeout, and unsufferable during lag issues - especially if you have stigmatism in your right eye like I do. humph.

PS3 slim. the announcement will be made on the net. Nowhere else. We see HMV's and Tesco's ads when they have it in stock lol.

[El_Patas]

el Patas, the problem with what you told us it this

1) when you hold foward on the stick the entire race, you are faster than staying flat the whole race

2) it is difficult to do this, so people taped the analog stick foward, and steered with the dpad. When pitch back was needed, pitch back on the DPAD overode the analog stick being taped down. This resulted in times about 2 seconds faster than " real racing"

3) Rob Foxx outlawed the technique basically stating that all controls must be done without taping the analog stick foward, do if you can do it manually, that is fine.

4) It doesn't bother me that this is still in the game since I hold the controller like a freak, not to mention ps3 controllers that will work easier holding the stick foward all the time


Thanks for the info.

Many thanks for the explanation, but i continue think this is
not a bug, and i don't bother about this thing.
Is possible Sony added this detail in the wipeout pulse.

I'm playing it and i enjoy a lot, and for online i have the whipeout hd, but
i don't love specially online gameplay, for me the best combination
is wipeout hd + wipeout pulse of Ps2 playing in a good big screen with
a good big speakers.

I hope the content of HD Fury pack gos integrated with the game and not separated,
i don't like two ways separate for play wipeout hd.

Regards.

[ACE-FLO]

El Patas, welcome btw, nice to have you here.

Wipeout is really so versatile, I prefer online, you prefer offline, someone prefer psp, another want TV, someone else like wipeout2097 only, etc... I guess pulse on PS2 could maybe be a success!

re: the pitch issue, maybe they didn't fix it because they see it as messing with the way the ship was meant to be controlled. Maybe... I don't know!

[DawnFireDragoon]

El Patas, i agree. owning both is a good thing!

with the Fury update, it is all built into HD, you load the game and come to a menu, comprising of two options, one on left, one on right, where you pick Fury (Red) or the original HD content (White) then it goes into whichever mode you selected.

going on the brief glimpse at the start of this movie...

http://dailymotion.virgilio.it/video/x9hpgp_coverage-e3-09-in-game-wipeout-hd-f_videogames


but thats the last i will mention of it in this thread!!!!

[Cyberio]

At least i have it.

I will see how Moa Therma and Metropia look in the PS2 version.
I wanted this port since the release day, finally i can play it, but a little late.

[AnErare]

A little late?! A few days!

You lucky man, most of the world isn't even lucky enough to get it locally..

[Darkdrium777]

I'm pretty sure the rest of the world doesn't exist. /sarcasm
Soooo, Sony: are you going to release this so I can buy it, or not?
Remember: I didn't pay for the Pulse DLC, so now's your chance. I will gladly not pay for it again if you don't give the chance to me though.

[El_Patas]

Hi all again,

i uploaded two videos recorded with my digital camera in front of the tv,
i don't have a video card in my pc, and the quality es very bad, sorry.

Also this is my first time i uploaded videos on youtube and seems the
frames are lost when youtube reencode the video because the races gos
in a slodown all the time, i don't know wich is the best way for encode the
videos for upload in youtube.

Anyway you can check it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQ8omxWqiI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaZZ-SaszSo

Regards.

[AG-wolf]

Woah, this finally came out??

[Cyberio]

A little late?! A few days!

You lucky man, most of the world isn't even lucky enough to get it locally..

I mean a little late since the release date. I saw some news long time ago saying that this PS2 port would be released in September of the past year.


The fps of the game are not so fluid than HD, for a 50Hz TV, but in any case it's ok.
But Metropia in Pulse PS2 is really another track, compared with the HD version. I feel it's like Korodera of the first WipEout. Moa Therma it seems to be more similar to the HD version.
The game is cool anyway.

El Patas, bienvenido paisano, por cierto, si que se ven bien tus videos para estar hechos con una cámara digital y no con una captura del PC.

[archman]

Is this fps dropdown in game or because of your camera? I don't think it's a camera.

edit: ok, probably youtube's fault

[Darkdrium777]

Woah, this finally came out??Only in Yurops. :|
For me it didn't come out... But hey, Sony doesn't want the money I could potentially give them. Blame them.

[Sausehuhn]

It looks better than the PSP version. Yes. Does it look better than Fusion? No.

[El_Patas]

I mean a little late since the release date. I saw some news long time ago saying that this PS2 port would be released in September of the past year.


The fps of the game are not so fluid than HD, for a 50Hz TV, but in any case it's ok.
But Metropia in Pulse PS2 is really another track, compared with the HD version. I feel it's like Korodera of the first WipEout. Moa Therma it seems to be more similar to the HD version.
The game is cool anyway.

El Patas, bienvenido paisano, por cierto, si que se ven bien tus videos para estar hechos con una cámara digital y no con una captura del PC.

And why you play in 50hz? this is always worse than 60hz, also exists
problems of framerate in 60hz in certain points and moments, but is sure
in 50hz have more problems.

Hola gracias, tú crees que se ven bien? hombre no está mal supongo para
una cybershoot, lo suyo serÃ*a usar una tarjeta de video, pero es lo que hay.


Is this fps dropdown in game or because of your camera? I don't think it's a camera.

edit: ok, probably youtube's fault

As i mentioned, all is caused by my Sony cybershoot camera and youtube,
i don't lie, and off course nobody's can judge the visuals with this crappy videos.
I don't have nothing better for show you the game, sorry.


It looks better than the PSP version. Yes. Does it look better than Fusion? No.

Fusion looks better? :eek
You are serious?
You are playing this Ps2 version and comparing with Fusion?

I can't believe you are serious about this.

Best regards.

[Sausehuhn]

No I've not played Pulse for PS2 yet. But from what I can see from the pictures and videos, Pulse is "only" updated concerning the bitmaps, not the geometry. Of course, Pulse's light effects (glowing surfaces) are more obvious in Pulse; but I don't like them too much anyway. But Fusion clearly has more complex sourroundings compared to Pulse, definitely more Polygons.
Look at Vohl Square or Alca Vexus.

[DawnFireDragoon]

nice video's El Patas! thankyou for posting them.

i watched a video of Pulse PSP next to yours to compare, the graphics seem a lot sharper in the PS2 version. Also the ion trail bends as you corner now, whereas in the PSP version it just shoots straight out the back of your ship in a line no matter how you turn!!!

looks great, can't wait to get my hands on it. it's out in continental europe, but not in the UK till friday!!!!! :(

also, it's gonna be better than fusion even if it looks a tad worse...fusion is so bug ridden and hard to play that i can play any other game in the seires for a longer period of time than that!!!

[Darkdrium777]

1:01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQ8omxWqiI&#t=1m01s) LOL
Same thing happened to me in HD this evening. Ghost ships ftw.

[El_Patas]

nice video's El Patas! thankyou for posting them.

i watched a video of Pulse PSP next to yours to compare, the graphics seem a lot sharper in the PS2 version. Also the ion trail bends as you corner now, whereas in the PSP version it just shoots straight out the back of your ship in a line no matter how you turn!!!

looks great, can't wait to get my hands on it. it's out in continental europe, but not in the UK till friday!!!!! :(

also, it's gonna be better than fusion even if it looks a tad worse...fusion is so bug ridden and hard to play that i can play any other game in the seires for a longer period of time than that!!!

Hi, thanks, i hope you have soon the game this friday. :p

If you can compare the two versions and you can made videos with a pc
card i can't wait for your comments and videos.
Well, i'm more interested in see videos of other people, i don't like comparisons
specially, but i understand the people likes it.
And about fusion i don't like also enter in how good looks or how good is
the playability, because there is no way, Fusion is ugly, looks worse, and
don't plays like a Wipeout, for me this game don't deserve the name of
Wipeout, and definitely more polygons don't mean always better look.
Pulse have gorgeous textures, very colourful and clear, solid and nice
polygons, and plays with the feeling of the best-Wipeouts-without-a-doubt.

Enjoy it!

[DawnFireDragoon]

i try to like fusion, i really do...but if i play it more than half an hour i get angry!!! lol.

i don't have a video capture card, so all my wipeout video's are made with me recording the TV/PSP...it works ok for TV but is rubbish for PSP.

I will still try to make a video or two on this release though!!! :)

[kanar]

LOL, i just gave a call to my retailer, he wasn't aware of the release today, he had to check 2 times his listing to finally find he received 3 wipeout pulse for ps2. LOL, more than 120 000 000 ps2 units in the world. And not even a review or announcement or whatever else, for such killer app. Thanks El Patas for the vids on youtube! Anyway, I'll buy my ghost game in 30mn :hyper:hyper

[archman]

Enjoy, kanar (I just got my Pure (eur) UMD a few mins ago :):):))!

[Cyberio]

And why you play in 50hz? this is always worse than 60hz, also exists
problems of framerate in 60hz in certain points and moments, but is sure
in 50hz have more problems.



I don't have a 60Hz TV, and i have to play in 50Hz like always.

Probably in 60Hz i could see the game like HD, same faster.

emerald dragoon: I can't believe that this game does not comes out first in the country which was created.

EDIT: And something for all who like me are been playing with wipeouts only for PS1 and PS2. This game has not the possibility to custom the controls to put L2 and R2 buttons as the air brakes. It has to be L1 and R1 or anothers, but for some reason the game does not recognize these buttons.

[DawnFireDragoon]

lol, i'd even drive to liverpool and get the game, saying thanks to whoever did the port while i was there (and ask for a quick go on Fury too!!!) if it was easier.

my order with Amazon has fallen through due to their supplier been rubbish anyway, so i've had to re-order and might not get it till monday/tuesday now. :(

getting this game has been a nightmare...i've never had so much trouble confirming a games existence...then actually getting the damn thing!!!

[NightArh]

It seems to be like Limited Edition... I cant find it too :|

[DawnFireDragoon]

IMPORTANT for Uk shoppers wanting Pulse PS2:

called my local GAME store and this is not gonna be released in-store AT ALL!

online only. so if you want this i suggest ordering it from an online retailer soon.

and all online retailers have put it back till the 26th in the uk. I'm sorry but that's it. now im really ****** off, this is ridiculous!!!!!!! :(

[Amorbis]

I ordered it online from Amazon a few days ago and today I received an e-mail saying it's going to be delayed. They cited distributor problems as to why they couldn't send it. Here's hoping it's out before the end of the month and if not at least out before Fury.

Sony has a very strange way of marketing their games, they just seem to slip out unnoticed :P.

[ACE-FLO]

Sony has a very strange way of marketing their games, they just seem to slip out unnoticed :P.

Don't they just! It's just too damn frustrating - I went to the GAME store around the corner from where I work during lunchbreak - and this really sucks, the Manager hasn't heard of wipeout - thought it was a game based on the TV show total wipeout (what a cobbler) in case no1 knows what "Total Wipeout" is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufc030OfmE0 note - Richard Hammond in a party hat - arms akinmbo - making a prat out of himself lol...

Back on topic though - and yes Amorbis - they have no idea what a marketing strategy for their games is supposed to be - and are too pigheaded to follow the examples of their competitors product lines... go figure man...

Or is it a case of Sony wanting to spend their marketing budget on Hardware and not what they consider Software (ie: games)... it just makes no sense to me!

[Darkdrium777]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
The game is available only in Europe, and only online in the country it was made in. It was a stealth release, shops don't even know it exists, and will probably never see the light of day in other countries.

I'll leave this neutral face as a summation of my laughing and crying at the same time.

:|

[djb]

jeez! with hindsight im thinking i was overly optimistic to expect neGcon support!

[Mad-Ice]

I called some toyshop in the area. They have it on their list of PS2 games, but they have to order Pulse PS2 themselfs because it will not ship together with the other titles coming out. Flabergasted!! But if it is true it will not be released in the USA, then we Europeans have to find a way to help our friends in the USA to be able to play Pulse on PS2.

[Darkdrium777]

I'm trying to figure out a way to play it.
It isn't legal (And I won't openly discuss this, you can figure it out for yourselves), but so is the marketing strategy Sony is currently using for this release. :| (I find it's perfectly stupid tbh, it's even worse than Pulse's first release on PSP xD)
God damn it Sony, make my life more simple and allow me to buy the game in the first Futureshop or BestBuy I walk in! :( The game's already in english, make it NTSC by forcing 60Hz mode and ship it worlwide. :mad:

EDIT: Here's are screenshots of a well known track to show how nice it looks on the PS2 (Or should look).
I really wish this was released in the US. :( I would buy it instantly, even if there is no online.

http://g.imagehost.org/t/0043/TalonsJunction.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0043/TalonsJunction)http://g.imagehost.org/t/0581/TalonsJunction2.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0581/TalonsJunction2)

[El_Patas]

Mmmh...is so strange, too bad the game is out now in 26th, i
don't understand why have problems with the distributor, this game
is not distributed in all Europe by SCEE?
Strange...

Here is the online game.uk for buy it:

http://www.game.co.uk/PS2/Racing/~r339144/WipEout-Pulse/

And for the people of ntsc regions, the Pal game have the selector of 60hz
for ntsc tv's/panel's, you only need modify your Ps2 for play imports,
exists various ways for made this, and buy online the game in 26th.

I have my Pal V3 console modified for play my original ntsc imports from
USA and Japan.

Best regards.

[Darkdrium777]

You can't modify a PS3.
I want to play this in 1080p on my PS3.

I shouldn't have to modify a console because of this BS. :| I want to walk in a store, see it on a shelf, and get it for my region.
This isn't possible? I'll try to use emulators (Which doesn't work so well.)

So, I guess I'll resort to playing Pulse on my computer with Remote Joy on my PSP. Yay. :| Shame, because the PS2 version looks miles better. More details on the ships, the tracks, the weapon effects...

EDIT: Well I finally got this thing working. Which makes me wish I could buy the game even more... Heres a zone screenshot. Same track as before, 'cause I haven't got memory cards yet.
Haven't shown any ships because of a nasty shadow glitch. Which makes me wish I could buy the game even more, so I play without glitches, but I've already said I wanted to buy the game over 9000 times. Can't unfortunately, I do not have a PAL PS2, and cannot buy online... I truly hate what I've done to play this game but I have no choice, yet... Liverpool if you're reading please make this happen (Release PS2 Pulse worldwide without stealth release).

http://g.imagehost.org/t/0053/ZoneTalonsJunction.jpg (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0053/ZoneTalonsJunction)

It's WipEout Pulse, it looks cool, plays cool, so for those of you who can, go get it. ;) If you haven't tried WipEout Pulse because you didn't have a PSP, now's the chance (It feels much better with a Dualshock, playing with a Dualshock on the PC :))

[El_Patas]

I recorded another video again from the game, but this time
i encoded it first in Flash format, this is the format Youtube uses,
and now when i uploaded the video, is not lost too much frames
and do not runs all the video in a continue slodown.
Also have a little better quality.

I made various attempts for play a decent gameplay in the class
of Phantom with the Qirex, is so very fast, and difficult of A.I. set
in Medium.

This is the link of the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq0m3Sn46dM

Regards.

[Axel]

Not being rude or anything but what was the point of releasing this game? They could have better used the resources into making Pulse PS2 on the New WO game or FURY expansion pack.

I mean limited on-line multiplayer support? Jeeze it's worst than the PSP counter part already! I guess this is one for the collectionists out there.

[Rapier Racer]

I'm not the biggest Pulse fan but I still want to buy it. The question I have is where the hell is it? When is it out in the UK? I've checked major retailer websites and only 2 are listing it so much for cashing in on the PS2 no ones selling it. Amazon have it for sale now but GAME says its not out for 6 days whats the deal?

EDIT: Ok never mind GAME has changed its website and it apparently selling it now, I'm off to investigate :)

FURTHER EDIT: Ok so I've just been to GAME, Comet, Curries, PC World, Argos, and Toys R Us none of which are stocking the game, can I just ask what the point of releasing it was? lol I can't see this cash in going very well :(

The guy in GAME had the cheek to try and tell me it's a PSP game and not on PS2... I couldn't help but correct him on the spot, he wondered off after his manager tapped it into their computer and up it popped.

[ACE-FLO]

Game staff are greasy spotty types who think they know the world of gaming inside out - they prefer to sit up all night drinking White Diamond Cider and puffing on their cheap rolly ciggies, discussing things at a very anal level - not realising they are totally - moronically- and stupidly wrong about 90% of what they say/know... (ok - maybe not 90% that's taking it a bit too far)

The Game store I went into - the guy who served me thought wipeout was a tv show called total wipeout and had a rather bemused look on his unwashed mug when I explained that it was the best racing simulation ever - fastest too - and if you don't know, you better get to know "coz you are supposed to know"...

Game Sucks!

[Rapier Racer]

Tell me about it, a couple of parents came in with their young son one day asking a member of staff how you put music on the PSP, he was clueless, I gave them the answers maybe I should have written it down for him as well :banzai

[ACE-FLO]

Hate to be offtopic here but the staff at Game - look like they work there for free... Just wann be around things they wish they could own lol...

I may just end up getting this title online... May... just...

[DawnFireDragoon]

hey guys, a few pages back i mentioned i'd been in contact with GAME. they said the game is been released as an online purchase only and won't be appearing in any stores.

so online buying seems to be the way forward.

[ACE-FLO]

Yeah I read your post earlier too - But I was just simply referring to the title wipeout in the GAME store lol - they were clueless... Bloody pigeons!

[Rapier Racer]

Whats the script with that? Surely if it was in the shops some people might actually know its out and buy it no? The cash ins only going to go as far as this forum lol

[KIGO1987]

Cant find this game ****ing anywhere in Perth, yet to been seen in Aus i guess. Hopefully soon.

[RJ O'Connell]

Great, another Wipeout game I'll never have a chance at playing because SCEA is doing a damn good job at running the series into obscurity in this part of the world.

Is it too late to ask Sony to just sell SL to some other publisher that gives a sh*t?

[ACE-FLO]

Sir Blinky - you echo my thoughts...

And I bet you're thinking "fat chance" too.... lol

It's so unfair that this game is region specific!